Russia test-launches new missiles

Russia test-launches new missiles

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MOSCOW - Russia on Tuesday test-launched a new intercontinental ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple independent warheads, and a top government official said it could penetrate any defense system, a news agency reported.

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Recent developments in U.S. military technologies have raised concerns of their Russian counterparts, some have claimed the U.S. military is not building defensive systems, rather they are developing "offensive" weaponry.

The Russians boast that this new ICBM can penetrate ANY, missile defense systems, a bold claim to say the least.

Are we headed toward a new cold war between Russia, and the United States of America?

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[edit on 29-5-2007 by UM_Gazz]

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
The Russians boast that this new ICBM can penetrate ANY, missile defense systems...

Good, maybe now they can stop whining about 10 GBI missiles placed in former Soviet republics, or maybe not...

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
Are we headed toward a new cold war between Russia, and the United States of America?

The cold war never really ended, it just cooled down further due to several fortunate events and reasons...

[edit on 29-5-2007 by WestPoint23]

Originally posted by WestPoint23
The cold war never really ended, it just cooled down further due to several fortunate events and reasons...

I agree, I believe advancement in pure military offensive and defensive technologies has never stopped, however there was a time not so long ago where the sense of urgency in the arms race between these two super powers was all but gone, mainly as a result of economic strains on both sides, agreements and understandings, the threat of mutual destruction was giving room for mutual trust. In more recent times there seems to be a change, the sense of urgency is returning, mistrust, denials, allegations or provocation, and some perceptible level of threats.

I think it is quite possible we are returning to a new arms race, and distancing between these nations who could end all life on this planet as we know it.

Which raises the possibility of potential mistakes, human or computer errors, and tensions resulting in a potential war.

We can only hope that both sides will see the futility in building on already insanely powerful and redundant weaponry.

Originally posted by WestPoint23
The cold war never really ended, it just cooled down further due to several fortunate events and reasons...

Indeed

It was only afew weeks back, that the Russian was spying on a UK military exercise.

Originally posted by infinite
It was only afew weeks back, that the Russian was spying on a UK military exercise.

I would say that also is nothing new, or worthy of being alarmed about.

The Russians spy planes, satellites, and entire defense system, as well as other nations including UK and USA, are in part the reason we've not had to worry about nuclear conflicts between the super powers.

What I do find alarming is a push toward a new arms race between super powers.

If the Russians claim of having new ICBM capabilities which could penetrate US missile defense systems, it could easily be interpreted as a move to produce new and deadly offensive weaponry, which will ultimately drive the USA to produce the same, only better, and the cycle continues to escalate from there.

To me this signals a great loss for both sides, one that took decades of high level diplomacy to produce. The cold war may have never really been gone, but things could get out of hand quickly with a potential new arms race.

This is clearly an answer to the proposed missile defence sheild, specially with the description of the new missile being unstoppable by any air defence system. Russia agreed to tone down the retoric after Condi Rice's last visit, so now it appears that they choose to "speak softer and carry a bigger stick".

Just want to tell you guys not to get caught up in the rhetoric and hype or Russia's statement. It's more a political ploy and a play on words than anything else. The Russians know damn well, and have always known, that our missile defense effort was never aimed at them and they know that their current missiles are numerous enough (many times over) and sophisticated enough to completely negate the US ABM shield. And they also know that those interceptors in Europe cannot possibly stop their missiles or reduce their offensive strike capability (to nay noticeable degree) against NATO. What they are doing is using this as an excuse to expand their offensive systems and to reassure less capable allies that the big bad Ruskies are standing up to the US. Lets not take it too literally, they can claim whatever they want in the end any of their missiles will do. Heck, their own acknowledged ABM systems are currently larger in scale and some may argue more capable than ours, yet who's complaining?



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Putin says missile test response to U.S. moves

www.reuters.com

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's test firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday was in response to U.S. steps that have sparked an arms race and undermined world security, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday.

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[edit on 31-5-2007 by UM_Gazz]

Originally posted by UM_Gazz

Putin says missile test response to U.S. moves

www.reuters.com

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's test firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday was in response to U.S. steps that have sparked an arms race and undermined world security, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday.

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[edit on 31-5-2007 by UM_Gazz]

Go ahead and let them waste money on the new ballistic missle. The defense system is against North Korea and other third world nations. Not against a country that has umm hundreds of ballistic missiles with MIRV capability.

Nice find, Gazz. I'm always interested in russian military development.
Sadly enough the information and propaganda cannot be compared to american Future Weapons of Blablabla Hollywood Episodes. So it's pretty difficult to find interesting Weaponry information.

I wonder if people like Westpoint23 would be as arrogant and ignorant if they grew up in another, or maybe several other countries?

But i guess not, it's probably the environmental circumstances and your selfish character which made you, the way you are.

Apart from all those pseudo-political and non-factual assumptions i can only say that some people are more afraid of global abuse originating from modern USA, rather than from Russia.
Therefore it's quite comprehensible that I, amongst others, prefer having 2 equal forces.. rather than one dominating and extremely dangerous party.

Maybe if the US received some economical, political and military pain they wouldn't feel so superior. And they wouldn't be able to do some of the awful things they are doing right now.

these sound like threats to me...

"we didn't start this arms race" struck me as funny because we've been in maximum military arms development for a long while now

especially with the recent passing of the Iraq War spending bill there definitely aren't any signs of respite.

all eyes have been on the U.S. for years now, this looks like a typical Putin playground temper tantrum...what a diva.

Originally posted by osram


Maybe if the US received some economical, political and military pain they wouldn't feel so superior. And they wouldn't be able to do some of the awful things they are doing right now.

Its called 9/11. And that was just 4 planes and 3 buildings. Imagine 100 times worse than what we are doing now in retaliation if somebody else decided to join the fun? Hmm....

Originally posted by osram
I wonder if people like Westpoint23 would be as arrogant and ignorant if they grew up in another, or maybe several other countries?

Arrogant I may be but I'm not ignorant when it comes to this, let not be too presumptuous.

Originally posted by osram
Apart from all those pseudo-political and non-factual assumptions...

Please list and refute my "pseudo-political and non-factual assumptions", lip service means little to most people.

Ahhh we already have personnal attacks?

Can't say for arrogant since it's a matter of perception...

but ignorant?

His answers seem like a complete and serious analysis of a political and strategic situation on the anti ballistic systems to me

As I see it, that kind of missile tests are more of a public relation thing than otherwise to boost the moral of the troops and convince ex-soviet republics that Russia is still the best ally

At the same time I agree with the idea that Russia is using the american missile shield as an excuse to strenghten their military capabilities and keep up with rising powers like China and India