could a sniper kill at 1 km?

Originally posted by NetStorm
All depends on the bullet. Most are teflon coated, which makes them armor piercing, however, you might want to read on this site

www.post-gazette.com...

I thought you made an AP (armour piercing) bullet by giving the bullet by adding a steel core

Originally posted by Paladin327

Originally posted by NetStorm
All depends on the bullet. Most are teflon coated, which makes them armor piercing, however, you might want to read on this site

www.post-gazette.com...

I thought you made an AP (armour piercing) bullet by giving the bullet by adding a steel core

You are correct, sir. AP bullets are made from materials harder than lead, like steel or tungsten alloys, and the coatings are there only to protect the barrel of the weapon firing these hard bullets. The coatings do not affect the projectile's ability to penetrate armor.

killing at 1km would be really really really hard. i mean 1 mm left and thats like a couple metres at the target

Originally posted by devilwasp
killing at 1km would be really really really hard. i mean 1 mm left and thats like a couple metres at the target

It would be really hard. I failed sniper training because of the 1000m target. But it's done all the time. Even at ranges of a mile or 1800m.

Could a sniper kill at 1000m. Yes. Provided his spotter identified the protective vest and suggested a head or neck shot. If he had a .50, he'd probably just shoot him in the chest anyway, as that round would turn his heart and lungs into patee.

DC

If I remember correctly, the M82-a1 has an accuracy range of 1600 meters(standard) and since its an anti vehicle rifle, its bullets are teflon coated armour piercers.

At 1600 meter accuracy range, the M82-a1 can blast trough an engine block and come out the other side.

I'd think that with some modifications to the rifle, even longer range scope, perfectly made components, a bolted down biped, it would propably even blast trough that same engine block at 2500m+. Then there is always the option of specialy crafted ammo, with even more high power/velocity design and special materials even better then teflon coating to do the armour piercing.

Originally posted by HerExcellency

Originally posted by cleggy
so really it depends on the round used?

where as a 5.56mm/7.62mm would be kinda useless at those ranges a .30 cal would likely kill the person?

The short answer is again, Yes.

I wouldn't say that they would be useless, just uneffective. The effective range of a 5.56mm is probably 300 m but the round will travel much farther, just not with alot of accuracy.

The Barrett has ZERO minute of angle accuracy at range. Which in layman's terms means it might as well be a lazer beam.

hrxll

Ther maximum effective range of an M-16 is 460 meters, maximum range 2,765 meters. The M-16 fires 5.56mm ammo. As you say, it will, of course, travel much further. The 5.56mm will penetrate 1/4" of steel, making it a bit better than the 7.62x49mm, but neither are preferred sniper rounds.
I used an M-21 in the Army, which is a refined model of the M-14. It used 7.62mm ammo (308 cal.). Very good rifle, very accurate, but these .50 cal rifles are much more accurate as the bullet is obviously heavier, and the .50 will travel over 5 miles.

has done it more than once. One record I know of is taking out the iraqi driver of a jeep with a Barret 50 Cal from 2 miles by a US Marine Scout Sniper.

Requires them to hit a moving 1 foot square target at 800 yards and a stationary 1 foot square target at 1200 yards just to get through the sniper school.

I think if you are a good sniper and have the correct gun and cartridge then the answer is YES






ARMALITE, AR50 Rifle, AR50B, 50 BMG, 31" Chrome Moly, Black stock

Caliber: 50 BMG
Action: Single shot, Bolt action
Metal Finish: Magnesium Phosphated Steel, Hard Anodized Aluminum
Receiver: Modified Octagonal Form, Drilled And Slotted For Scope
Rail
Bolt: Triple Front Locking Lug
Sights: Mil Standard with the Boss to engage cross-slot on
receiver top
Trigger: Single Stage
Barrel: 31" Chrome Moly
Stock: 3 Section: Extruded Forend, Machined Grip Frame With
Vertical Grip, Forged and Machined Removable Buttstock
Stock Finish: Black or Olive Drab Green
Overall Length: 59.5"
Weight: 33.2 Lbs
Accessories: Vertically adjustable Buttplate, specially built for
Heavy Calibers, Owners Manual, Lifetime Warranty

Salvating over that rifle.

I have a vague memory of my youth, A russian rifle, that could shoot a mile. It had sights that was a flat bar with nothches every two inches or so. The bar was about 10 in long.

I will see if I can find a webpage on it.

[Edited on 30-4-2004 by SpittinCobra]

Or you can go with this one

Manufacturers: Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, Inc. and Unertl
Length: 57 inches (144.78 centimeters)
Barrel length: 29 inches (73.67 cm)
Weight: 32.5 pounds (14.75 kilograms) (unloaded)
Bore diameter: 12.7mm (.50 Caliber)
Maximum effective range : 1800 meters
Muzzle velocity: 2800 feet (854 meters) per second
Magazine capacity: 10 rounds
Unit Replacement Cost: $6,000

Please note the Maximum effective range on this gun

you guys have to remember that the 5.56 or 7.62 ttakes out 3 people with one shot. the victim, his friend freaking out and a medic. they are all too busy to fight back. also, the issue body armor is not made to withstand the larger caliber rounds. they are made for small-arms fire and not close cobat situations (ie: point blank)

I haven't read more than the first 2 pages of this topic, so sorry if this has already been brought up.

Blackwater Shootout 2003

Read up on that Sniper rifle they have on that page, the CheyTac .408 rifle, and then you'll have your answer, definitively.

Enjoy.

Loki

[Edited on 30-4-2004 by Loki]

from about 6 months back. Apparently just after the first world war a guy showed up at the national shooting meet in Virginia with the NRA. He was from Missouri, had a borrowed gun without a scope and won the competition, reaching 1000 yards and outshooting the competition with scopes. They named the cup after him and it's still named for him today!

Originally posted by intelgurl
I wouldn't know about with sniper rifles, but my brother was reading a factual book about a marine sniper in vietnam who was using a 50 cal to snipe with. He said the round would cause the victim to literally do a back flip when hit from 2000+ meters.
Not that it answers your question - just putting my 2 cents worth in~

Thats cool and sad at the same time. It's also disgusting that I think its 'cool'.

Longest confirmed kill was by a Canadian soldier with a .50 sniper rifle in Afghanistan. It was about 2.1km I believe.

2.1 km!how did he know the guy was there?

Originally posted by cleggy
if someone was wearing body armour and was shot at with a sniper rifle at a range of about 1000m - 1600m, would it kill them?

It's possible in absolute. But in real, I dont think so :

But if :

You live on a flat planet, with no building, where you can get a range 1/1.6 km. A planet with no wind, an no air resistance and no gravitation, it's possible.

Originally posted by Kozzy
Longest confirmed kill was by a Canadian soldier with a .50 sniper rifle in Afghanistan. It was about 2.1km I believe.

By accident ?

Originally posted by intelgurl
I wouldn't know about with sniper rifles, but my brother was reading a factual book about a marine sniper in vietnam who was using a 50 cal to snipe with. He said the round would cause the victim to literally do a back flip when hit from 2000+ meters.
Not that it answers your question - just putting my 2 cents worth in~

In the jungle of vietnam, where did this guy find an range of 2000+.