Muslim outrage at citizen test

Of course they are outraged,everybody knows that the entire country must change to accommodate them. "We are not asking people to subscribe to the Judeo-Christian ethic," he said". "We are simply stating a fact that this is part of the heritage of Australia in terms of its foundation."
How dare they,Australia must be changed.I wonder if you went to a Muslim country and said they must change their values to accommodate you,what do you think they would do?

In some respects, this thread relates to 'The New Tolerance' thread (excluding the source for the latter).

At the same time, it's understandable that muslim migrants would FEEL free to object to Costello's remarks. After all, it's been open-slather in Australia for years, as far as 'migrant expectations' are concerned.

Is bigamy a crime in Australia? Of course it is. Except when the bigamists are muslim.

There's an Aussie-based site called 'Woglife' or used to be until quite recently. And on Woglife, you'll discover posts written by the children of muslim migrants, detailing how their muslim-migrant fathers have three or more wives --- all of whom, with their own children, live separately in free housing provided by the Australian government, courtesy of over-taxed, non-muslims.

These muslim children detail how their fathers roams from house to house during the week, impregnating and/or beating their numerous wives and pausing just long enough to snatch from them the generous family-allowances provided to each -- again by the generous Aussie government, courtesy of the non-muslim taxpayers.

These men choose for the large part not to learn English. They are unskilled and the vast majority will remain unemployed for the rest of their lives.

Why should they bother to get a job when the Aussie government hands taxpayers money to them ($5,000 each time one of their wives delivers a baby) plus generous Family Allowance payments, plus FREE housing, plus WELFARE allowance, plus FREE medical, plus FREE education and special assistance, plus FREE home help etc. I've probably failed to include the full raft of perks bestowed, but the fact is, unskilled, non-English speaking muslim migrants are provided thousands of dollars per week, in many instances, simply for breathing and reproducing.

Add to this the fact the Aussie government uses FURTHER non-muslim taxpayers' money for the erection of muslim schools, muslim-community funds, muslim mosques, etc. etc.

Many muslim 'wives' produce a child each year. A man with three wives therefore is provided a further baby-bonus ($15,000) plus increased Family Allowance and dole payments and larger free housing, per annum.

All he has to do is waltz around in a loose frock, swinging his prayer beads and expend less than a teaspoon of sperm per year, keep his wives in line and spend the majority of every day sitting with his similarly 'well paid' muslim buddies, drinking coffee and feeling 'important'.

If idiots are going to permit him to breech bigamy laws at the same time they provide him free housing and piles of free money in addition to erecting mosques for his convenience --- then he's hardly likely to complain.

They DO complain of course, just to keep the Aussie public feeling constantly GUILTY about anything at all.

So Costello's sudden requirement that migrants at least *acknowledge* they've relocated to Australia, would naturally make those migrants a little tetchy. After all, migrating to Australia is the equivalent of winning the Lottery for Life. All it required was a plane trip and the need to become accustomed to running-water, education, medical care and abundant free income and housing.

But give them their due ... most muslim migrants try to adapt to the challenge of converting Australia into the Mid East.

Meanwhile, NO-ONE gives credit to the Australian taxpayer who funds all this largesse at the same time they uncomplainingly accept new neighbours who rather than mow the lawns, instead slaughter sheep in the back-yard and turn once-attractive neighbourhoods into third-world ghettos.

Those same Aussies WERE accustomed to pleasant shopping malls and streets. They WERE accustomed to feeling at home in their country of birth. They USED to take pride in their neat communities.

NOW, they're justifiably afraid to go shopping in many suburbs and when they do, they could be forgiven for believing they'd been transported to the Mid East. Surrounding and shoving them are people with whom they have nothing in common, languages they cannot understand, gangs of frightening looking youths and veiled women resembling Bedouin tents.

Whereas once, Christian churches were the focal point of the community .... new mosques now are. NOW those Aussies hide within their own homes, shades drawn, unable to drive their car to THEIR church because their driveway is blocked by vehicles belonging to muslims attending the massive, Mid Eastern mosques stamped down in the midst of conventional Aussie streets and suburbs.

Those Aussies are too scared to object; too scared to request the arrogant muslims kindly remove those cars from other people's driveways --- because LAST time (long time ago) some fool Aussie made such an 'unreasonable' request, his own car was torched or smashed or stolen in the night and by 'coincidence' that same 'unreasonable' Aussie had his legs broken, or his dog was killed or his child or wife monstered by Middle Eastern men .... and the police claimed they'd had no success in locating those criminals.

Aussies work and pay taxes. Muslims invest their free money in blocks of apartments.

Aussies are the new-poor. Muslim migrants are prospering.

Then Costello had the hide to hint that muslims should at least pay lip-service to their over-generous host country's 'culture and standards'.

But that was just for show, as all are aware.

Costello and Howard are just playing both sides against the other. After all, there's an election soon. So they're 'keeping the Aussies happy' by pretending to demand accountability from muslims. Meanwhile, they're making cooing noises to the mullahs and muslim communities and slipping them more bundles of money and perks and mosques, as usual.

It's hoped this will mollify the Aussie voters at the same time it ensures the considerable muslim-vote.

Will anything actually change? Doubt it. The Aussies will become more disenfranchised and the muslims more securely entrenched.

The muslims will continue to raise their expections of the tax-paying Aussie hosts' generosity and tolerance. And the politicians will still be provided five star lunches and $1.00 per bottle French champagne at the Parliamentary cafeterias.

WHO is being required to 'make the adjustment' ?

Ask the muslims. They're grinning from ear to ear.

That sounds horrible,it seems to be happening everywhere.Immigrants come to a country and take advantage.Here in the US,illegal immigrants can do no wrong.They are saints.Not long ago a Brazilian "Dr.", in the US illegally,killed another illegal alien while proforming liposuction in the basement of a public housing complex.The woman killed,could afford 3.000 for the cosmetic surgery,but was still able to get public housing.The "Dr" along with his wife,were charged.The wife was allowed to return to Brazil,charges dropped.The "Dr" was moved to another state,and I believe also released back to Brazil.Illegal aliens are caught on a regular basis drunk driving,and released to do it again.In many instances people are killed.Usually after that the police,DA's wake up and take action. Happens every single day.Maybe when Kennedy or his drug addict son or another member of his family are killed,he will put aside his traitorous,greed driven agenda and end this insanity.Until that happens,illegals will enjoy sainthood.

Originally posted by rdang
I wonder if you went to a Muslim country and said they must change their values to accommodate you,what do you think they would do?

they aren't asking someone to change the values of a culture, they're asking for something that has underlying bigotry to not be said by the government.

hell, rdang, i'd bet you'd say that america was founded on judeo-christian values

Terrorist apologists and supporters always claim "bigotry".If they cannot accept a countrys values,then they should stay where they are.Australia is not a Islamic country,but they would like to change into one.Everyone must change to accommodate them.God forbid they change.Take Saudi Arabia,I don't think they would even a non-muslim to become a citizen,but the apologists say that's their right.What about Australia right? oh,thats different,their "bigots".

It's the Frankist philosophy. Been a while since I burned out my eyes and sicked up in my mouth from reading it, but basically, the Frankists went insane when their hopes were dashed, and decided that they would usher in the damned Rapture or whatever, by making the planet such a foul place, God would have to step in a clean it up --- thereby granting the Frankists what they ultimately craved.

Frankist philosophy basically means turning everything on its head: black becomes white, good becomes bad, murder is good, decency is out. From memory, they decided to contravene every one of the Ten Commandments, meaning they indulge/d in adultery, murder, bearing false witness, stealing, lying, etc. etc. Charming people.

Those same Frankists-by-other-names, have come to virtually control any government worth ten cents. They use carrot and stick. They'll offer bribes and if that fails, they'll get the dirt on the stubborn politician and blackmail him into obedience.

We can't blame the muslims or any of the other invading hoards: it's our politicians who're responsible for this travesty. And they obey the Frankists' edicts. Basically, they can't afford to believe in God after all they've done, so they deny His existence and try to persuade us to think the same way.

Mass, inappropriate migration policies are just ONE of the means via which they intend to create hell on earth, thus forcing God to obey them.

It's up to everyone concerned for the future of his/her grandchildren and great-grandchildren, to step up and be counted.

Polticians, though they hate admitting it, are all living on borrowed time.

We give them that time; we give them their moment in the sun.

Sure, it's more difficult to vote the goons in and out these days, thanks to the electronic voting systems, but we still hold the power, if only we would get up from our knees and realise it and begin exerting that power.

So don't be shy, next election. Get involved, particularly at grass roots level. Make your feelings known.

Better than that --- let those politicians hear your roared demands !

The Frankists aren't the ONLY ones who can wield power, not the only ones who can use carrot and stick.

It's good to discuss these issues and enjoy a vent in forums.

But it takes more. It requires putting pen to paper and letting politicians know exactly what you do and do not expect from them --- or else.

Don't lose heart

Originally posted by rdang
Terrorist apologists and supporters always claim "bigotry".

yes, let's equate ALL muslims with terrorists.

If they cannot accept a countrys values,then they should stay where they are.

i thought one of the values of australia was supposed to be tolerance...

Australia is not a Islamic country,

nor is it a christian one.

but they would like to change into one.

maybe a few do, but i doubt the majority of muslims residing in australia would like to.

Everyone must change to accommodate them.God forbid they change.

and god forbid you go out of your way and show a little tolerance...

Take Saudi Arabia,I don't think they would even a non-muslim to become a citizen,

well, it is essentially a wahabi theocracy...
is australia a christian theocracy now?

but the apologists say that's their right.What about Australia right? oh,thats different,their "bigots".

and who here is saying that the theocracy in saudi arabia isn't bigoted?
see, australia holds itself up as tolerant
arabia does the opposite.

I'm not sure I entirely see the point of saying it's based on this or that.

If they are angry at Muslims for some reason, think they are bums, then kick em out (which dock's post would seem to indicate, although I don't know myself).

Seems pretty simple.

I wasn't aware it was such a problem down there. Guess I'll have to read up on the Aussies.

I don't think the Austrailians are mad at the muslims,it's the other way around:"Muslim outrage over Judeo-Christian values".But I do agree, if they can't accept the Australian laws,then they should be denied.So I'm intolerant? By not accepting what they want? And so is Australia? for not immediately doing their bidding? Thats not intolerant that's being stupid.
Just like the US,changing it's laws to accommodate 20 million illegal aliens.If a country changed it's laws every time some group wanted them to it would no longer be a country.It would be chaos.

rdang, are australia's laws actually based on judeo-christian tradition?
last time i checked in judeo-christian tradition everything from adultery to sabbath breaking was punishable by death... sheesh, if that's true i'm cancelling my trip

the issue for me is that it would be a lie to say australia's laws are based on judeo-christian tradition, unless it actually is... in which case i'm never visiting a country that would put a disobedient child to death

Dock6, if everything you posted is true, sounds good to me. Australia has enough wealth anyway, why not let the Muslim immigrants get there cut?