just tired

ok guys.... in my opinion i have had enough of "how to fake" threads.... lets focus more on disclosure and unknown videos. i have noticed an extreme alot of skeptism among people who shouldn't be skeptists to begin with... i am aware of many fakes in the world but lets focus on the basis of this forum. sorry for those who take offense.... cinco de mayo = drunk and grumpy

Agreed. Not enough positivity. I just clicked on a thread before, supposedly about a conference this weekend, but instead was yet another Dr Greer hatefest. There's not enough accentuating the positive, just frustration and an intent to disregard everything put before us. I do understand that frustration though.

Originally posted by RiotComing
Agreed. Not enough positivity. I just clicked on a thread before, supposedly about a conference this weekend, but instead was yet another Dr Greer hatefest. There's not enough accentuating the positive, just frustration and an intent to disregard everything put before us. I do understand that frustration though.

Exactly. I was just reading that thread and was completely disgusted at the negativity and cynicism a lot of people have. I found it to be pretty pathetic and petty. "Is he even a real doctor?" I guess its to be expected in a website full of paranoid conspiracy nutts.
I understand a healthy suspicion of things, but to go out of ones way to put down people who are at least trying spread awareness on the UFO subject does no one good.

I agree that the hatefests need to be toned down a little, but at the same time, if we see a video that's faked, or just plain not real enough, we do need to be honest with ourselves in discrediting it as opposed to fooling ourselves into believing because we want the vids to be real.

I agree. I'm just tired as well. I guess you could say I believe UFOs exist and I believe the government has UFO technology. I'm not 100% positive about this, but for me, it's a working theory subject to confirmation. I've got 300 books on the subject and have been interested since grade school in the fifties. I've watched nearly every film, fiction or non-fiction, ever shot of a UFO. I think it's fair to say I've put some serious effort into learning about them. I certainly am no expert, but I've at least heard of nearly every case out there. I do not consider myself a skeptic and wish those who are would simply look at the evidence.

I would have hoped I and others could get on here and share information, swap stories, and enhance our knowledge of the subject. Unfortunately the field is rife with hoaxsters, but even then, the people here are capable of showing what and where. There is a recent thread on Apollo 20 showing a craft on the moon as well as a city. It's REALLY good! But it didn't take long for folks here to show the codes were wrong, the liftoff was for Apollo 11, the moon ground is just slightly, but significantly different, etc. Wow! Good work, guys! It's too bad people do that kind of stuff, but that's just the way it is.

But what really makes me tired are people who will believe just about anything or anyone and when confronted with really good evidence that the stuff is nonsense will STILL believe it and defend it to the ends of the earth. This religious treatment of a subject that ought to be treated with the utmost scientific care is just mind boggling.

On ATS now we have over 500 posts on the Billy Meier ray-gun and garbage can lids with several people insisting they aren't fake. There are so many smoking guns on the Meier case that it is completely dead to anyone but a believer. Still like the pics? Go to the written stuff. It's even stranger.

Bob Lazar: PROVEN he lied again and again. He didn't attend MIT or Cal Tech. He bought a diploma from a mill. Physicists say his physics makes no sense at all. A believer's answer? Ah, the government 'disappeared' him! he graduated in the bottom third of his high school class, which wouldn't get him into MIT. This is a public record, but let's just not look at that one. If we ignore it, maybe it will go away.

Burisch: Looks fake, sounds fake, has no doctorate from anywhere, was a case worker where he met his wife while she was in prison, and a security guard at Las Vegas casinos. Those werre 'cover jobs' while he talked with J-Rod.

Greer. Mothra. Enough said. But, of course, there are Greer Fawns who believe him. I was really rooting for him, too--originally. This is gaining cult status. Greer is an excellent speaker.

Lear: Believes the moon has a breathable atmosphere. O-K! Also, NASA has lied to us about the gas giants. They are actually earth-like and inhabited. Reptilian aliens eat human beings in underground bases.

Serpo: Close Encounters incarnated. Sucked 'em in that time! But even here, believers "know for certain" there was some sort of exchange program. How do they "know?" That's not quite clear.

Adamski: Met his re-incarnated wife on Venus where there is a huge civilization, but we can't see it because it is shrouded, er, phase shifted.

Clarion: That's the planet directly opposite earth in the same orbit so we can't see it. The thriving population are all Christians who attend church on Sunday and speak perfect English, albeit always in rhyme. Their UFO pilots are hot, too. They wear short red dresses and short-sleeved black blouses and wear black berets with red trim.

So I'm tired, too. I'm tired of clueless people who will believe anything set before them and ignore the most basic (and blatant) evidence of fakery. It's difficult to advance the state of the art when you have to wade through such copius amounts of nonsense to move even a foot forward.