Watched They Live yesterday. Is that where Icke got his ideas from?

I remember watching They Live years ago. I always thought about those filtering glasses that they were wearing, the ones that allowed them to see the subliminal messages on billboards and advertisements, etc. The messages on the money like "This is your God", or on the bilboards that said "Consume" or "Marry and Reproduce," are very interesting. We are indoctrinated to produce and consume. The blind preacher with a mind's eye was a good touch, too.

When you look at some of John Carpenter's movies, you have to wonder where he developed his ideas. I'll have to check out They Live again.

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I know this is bringing this thread back from the dead... but

I just heard David on Alex Jones today (I dont fully agree with AJ but I'll tune in time to time), and what did Icke say?

(this is paraphrased because I dont have the best memory!)...

--Its like They Live where the tower broadcasted the protection!--

I know I'm not quoting exactly but he did mention They Live (the movie, I remember that) and the broadcast tower together! It was in the last hour of todays show! So I think the AJ rebroadcast should still be going!

Anyway it does bring Light to the OP's question!

David Icke saw a Sleestak in 1980 and had a bad '___' experience after watching Land of the Lost. I mean..... Where does David Icke get his fantastical ideas from? Does he have any evidence at all of reptopid beings? I really find it all very interesting, but just as rediculous at times. I'm not saying that his theories are all that rediculous as much as I'm saying it's rediculous that he and he alone is privy to this information. He sells lots of books and now ppl think he's some sort of genius. I just wanna know where he got all his data from because obviosly I have no clue.

I cant quite understand why "awakened" people would ridicule David Icke. Clearly most of those who mock him have never read his material or listened to the large amount of sense he speaks.

He didnt pluck the idea of reptilians out of the air, the idea that a reptilian race is interacting with humans through differant dimensions is tens of thousands of years old and mentioned in every major religious text. Try and prove that point wrong and you will have great difficulty.
A lot of people were coming up to him and telling him of these experiences where people turn into reptile like humanoids.
Not only that but research the relationship between vampires,dragons,demons and the 13 bloodlines the rule the world and you will see the connections.

He didnt go crazy as such he had a spiritual awakening. He realised that we are all one, patently that is what he meant by claiming he was the son of god.

It is confusing though, why films like They Live exist. Are they pro or anti agenda? Or are they getting us used to things to come?

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Ive read an awful lot of Icke material. If there is evidence in all ancient cultures of reptilian beings where are they? The Mayans and their feathered serpent?? David Icke says nothing of feathered serpents. He claims that the Bush family and the royal English family are related and that they are reptoids. He also states that the Illuminati is trying to create a single world governing body and they're all reptoids. Where is the ancient evidence for this? What do ancient writings and carvings have to do with the anybody in modern society that leads Icke to accuse them of being Reptoids. If this is possible then why hasn't anyone who has never read Icke seen someone shift into Lizard form and why is there no evidence of this beyond a few youtube videos? I am in fact interested in his theories but there are many holes in them. I myself have never seen anyone turn into a lizard or seen anyones eyes change. Of course that doesnt mean it doesn't exist, but wheres the evidence with 6 billion ppl on the planet? Theres thousands and thousands of ufo vids and such. Wheres the lizard pics? Nothing can be kept such a secret. It's just impossible. Right??

Originally posted by spinalremain
Ive read an awful lot of Icke material. If there is evidence in all ancient cultures of reptilian beings where are they?

They appear to be interdimensional in nature. They are reported in countless OBE and abduction cases and basically in many accounts of the astral planes.

If you want to see them look in popular culture and see countless representations of lizard like humanoids that shapeshift and are in mystical and alien settings.

But in terms of Ickes theories basically he had a lot of people coming up to him describing politicians shapeshifting etc... And he himself felt he came across a reptilian in in a sleep paralysis style moment.

Where they actually are, assuming the vibrational universe is the case (academic science is approaching this conclusion) is in an interdimensional space, or the astral plane. They do not physically shapeshift but they project images a la the scramble suit in A Scanner Darkly....





Maybe they are like a parasitic/possesion that shows its true nature when the subject is stressed or ill, getting old etc.

Originally posted by spinalremain
The Mayans and their feathered serpent?? David Icke says nothing of feathered serpents.

I am pretty sure he approaches this somewhere. I will try and find this.
What is for certain is that accounts of shapeshifting are not limited to just reptilian humanoids.
Another interpretation is that feathered serpent actually meant winged serpant, like a dragon. If we take into account that these entities probably werent seen in the real world, they were seen in the astral plane then it is likely that the creature was seen by ritual or meditation. So they werent actually seeing wings, they were seeing the energy forms of the being. Please see this picture as the same may be true for accounts of angels with wings. Come to think of it, the idea of actual bird like wings makes absolutely no sense in any dimension.

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Originally posted by spinalremainHe claims that the Bush family and the royal English family are related

You decide.

Originally posted by spinalremainand that they are reptoids.

I cannot verify this what so ever but a lot of things that didnt make sense now do to me, considering this info.

Lets start with the link between dragons and vampires. They are both simular in that they are in legend known to shapeshift, drink human blood, be very secretive, immortal, and wise.

Where did the two actually link in the minds of people?
Vlad the Impaler was the probable inspiration behind the character Dracula. Vlad the Impaler is part of the lineage of Saxe Coburg Gotha, the Royal family of England.

Why drink human blood? It has vital life force used for the manipulation of reality.

So far we have some rather tenous links but they are reasonable none the less. We have the current bloodlines that rule the world linked to shapeshifting blood drinking creatures. Why would this be so?

Originally posted by spinalremain
He also states that the Illuminati is trying to create a single world governing body and they're all reptoids.

In terms of the NWO this may or may not be the case. But when it gets so far, you are either a conspiracy theorist or a co-incidence theorist. I would say it is clear events in the real world are highly manipulated. The Illuminati may be one of the means of attaining power but they are clearly not at the very top of the hierarchy. Icke seems to think they are more of a tool for a cosmic malevolant force, same with the reps, they may just be part of the dualistic forces of reality.

Originally posted by spinalremain Where is the ancient evidence for this? What do ancient writings and carvings have to do with the anybody in modern society that leads Icke to accuse them of being Reptoids.

It must be important that differant cultures in the past held knowledge that surpasses us in many ways. It is also important to realise this knowledge is often deliberately surpressed or destroyed for a reason.
But I get your point, basically a lot of people have said this to him, and more than that there are stories of ritualistic practices by these people. I dont think he claims to know himself if any of these people are actual reptilians.

What is interesting is that nobody he has pointed out in these terrible reports have taken liable action against him.

Originally posted by spinalremain If this is possible then why hasn't anyone who has never read Icke seen someone shift into Lizard form and why is there no evidence of this beyond a few youtube videos?

Actually this was reported by a good number of people in altered states throughout history. Before Ickes reptilian ideas were even vaguely known the darkside of UFO stuff like the documents reporting reptilians at Dulce mentioned shapeshifting reptilians.

As for evidence now? There is no good evidence to be honest, only theory. But its an interesting theory. What sort of evidence would you need to prove this theory correct?

Originally posted by spinalremainI am in fact interested in his theories but there are many holes in them. I myself have never seen anyone turn into a lizard or seen anyones eyes change. Of course that doesnt mean it doesn't exist, but wheres the evidence with 6 billion ppl on the planet? Theres thousands and thousands of ufo vids and such. Wheres the lizard pics? Nothing can be kept such a secret. It's just impossible. Right??

Good questions. I think he is on the wrong track with some of his reptilian ideas (as far as one can be when trying to explain reality) but the fact remains that his work has brought a whole new light on the way the world works and is. Anyone looking past the tabloid headlines can patently see that he is not insane or even a very unrealistic person.

My personal opinion on reptilians is that whichever being created us (fragments of the one true god, the source) or trapped us in the material realm (interdimensional reptilians, demi-god, Elohim) wrote into our DNA that snakes are our teachers or masters, there are simply to many artifacts and accounts and historical referances for this not to be the case. I find it fascinating that people who go to the astral realm often upon entering it see geometric shapes and diamond patterns, the cosmic jokers also reported countless time (harlequin like teachers). Just like the camoflage of a snake.

Also I find that the fact that so many historical texts from hundreds of years ago, and some thousands of years ago across differant continents express the existance of a reptilian humanoid species that has had a hand in human affairs since the beginning.