The Alpha and the Omega (A theory of where we came from and how we got here)

I came up with a theory the other day concerning evolution, religion and time travel. Please have an open mind and enjoy. This is simply a theory, not trying to start a new religion

With todays modern technology and the advances in both electrical and biological science this is not a far fetched idea. I believe the 'grey' aliens were created from us and by us (humans) in a genetics lab as the future's human. We took evolution into our own hands and handcrafted a being that was suitable for space travel and advanced thinking.

That being said, the 'greys' (the new human race) colonize a new planet using technology that we provide to them. They help us advance this technology with their highly advanced brains we made for them. Now with this new technology comes the manipulation of time and space and our overall concept of it. A 'ufo' can manipulate the fabric of 'space' around it and seperate itself from its time constraints (it makes a time bubble when in its 'warp'). Now this is where it gets interesting.

The 'greys' are from our timeline's future but they can travel backwards and forward thru time using gravity distortion travel methods. Reality,i.e. time and space, is nothing more than the location of light at a point in time. Everything is moving in space so there are an infinite amount of places in time to go. That being said these future beings went back in time and placed life upon Earth, thus we ourselves are are own creators. This cycle continues indefinately. The beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omega.

Any thoughts?

P.S. It is my belief that 'God' is the ALL. That means that everything contained in all of existence is God. You do not have to claim yourself part of a 'religion' to believe or know of God.


[edit on 28-4-2007 by Spoodily]

Originally posted by Spoodily


The beings are from our 'timeline' (the time that we all reside in and move forward thru at the same speed) but they can travel backwards and forward thru time ('Reality' (time and space') is nothing more than the location of light at a point in time. Everything is moving in space so there are an infinite amount of places in time to go). That being said these future beings went back in time and placed life upon Earth, thus we ourselves are are own creators. This cycle continues indefinatley. The beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omega.


[edit on 28-4-2007 by Spoodily]

I lost you here

That is an intriguing theory.

Many have speculated that the Greys are time travelers from our future. But their actions, not their propaganda through abductees, is quite revealing.

Key question:

If the Greys can travel in time and have basically unlimited resources at their disposal, then why do they need to kidnap people from this planet for medical experiments, dissection, and long-term breeding programs?

Bingo.

You see, if a humanoid race has mastered time travel then it would not have the need to subjugate lesser advanced races that cannot defend themselves. All the resources they need would be accessed through their time travel technology.

This points to the Greys not being from our future, not having time travel capability, and not having our best interests at heart.

Originally posted by Spoodily
P.S. It is my belief that 'God' is the ALL. That means that everything contained in all of existence is God. You do not have to claim yourself part of a 'religion' to believe or know of God.

I basically agree with your appraisal that "God" emcompasses ALL THAT IS. I would add that there are also higher states of consciousness, God Realization, and that the Universe was started by a rarefied soul of God Consciousness that, after The Big Bang, divided itself up totally and irreversably into the trillions of souls that exist today.

Dr. Melvin Morse is a pediatrician who is well-known for his research into the near-death experiences of children. As he described it, a beautiful woman once suggested that he try praying. So he did. He knelt down and prayed for insight on the relationship of man to God.

What he received was a flash of insight: the word FRACTAL.

A fractal is something that contains within it the pattern of the greater whole. Like a holographic picture, if you break a part of it off, it still contains a representation of the original photograph.

The answer that Dr. Morse received is that souls are fractals of God. We contain within us the holographic blueprint of The Original Creator.

Which makes perfect sense if The Original Creator divided itself up into trillions of basically spiritual souls, billions of years ago. This is what the "Great Fall" in the Bible really refers to and the reason why traditional priests and ministers preach that "a piece of God is in all of us." We all contain the "god spark" or holographic blueprint of The Original Creator.

This backs up your appraisal that God is the ALL.



[edit on 28-4-2007 by Paul_Richard]

Thank you for your thorough reply, Paul. I made an edit to the original post, Medesi. I hope it reads more clearly.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Key question:

If the Greys can travel in time and have basically unlimited resources at their disposal, then why do they need to kidnap people from this planet for medical experiments, dissection, and long-term breeding programs?
[edit on 28-4-2007 by Paul_Richard]

Depending on if those accounts are true then I would say they are ensuring that their creation is guaranteed. The cycle is indefinate and at some point our present (which is them in their time) will be doing this. Since we made them if we don't stay on the appropriate course then they will not be created. They may be able to time travel but their home is the future which is their present. This theory also could go into the 'multiverse' theory but I want to leave it on a one timeline theme to be less confusing.


[edit on 28-4-2007 by Spoodily]

Originally posted by Spoodily
Thank you for your thorough reply, Paul.

Sure...anytime.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Key question:

If the Greys can travel in time and have basically unlimited resources at their disposal, then why do they need to kidnap people from this planet for medical experiments, dissection, and long-term breeding programs?
[edit on 28-4-2007 by Paul_Richard]

Originally posted by Spoodily
Depending on if those accounts are true then I would say they are ensuring that their creation is guaranteed. The cycle is indefinate and at some point our present (which is them in their time) will be doing this. Since we made them if we don't stay on the appropriate course then they will not be created. They may be able to time travel but their home is the future which is their present. This theory also could go into the 'multiverse' theory but I want to leave it on a one timeline theme to be less confusing.

My understanding of time travel doesn't allow for the kind of timeline interference you are talking about.

But let's suppose that it was possible to change one's past directly and not be limited to venturing into an alternate timeline. Kidnapping people for genetic tampering does not guarantee one's future creation. If anything, it ultimately serves to prevent it from happening.

Why?

Because eventually the subjugation will be stopped. Heinous crimes always are in the long run. The ends have never justified the means and those that follow that path are doomed to failure.

In a word...KARMA.

Further, Greys are usually very short, ugly, even weaker than most Homo sapiens, and it is not much of a stretch that they probably have no sex life whatsoever. It also appears that their diet is much more limited than our own. Their God is Science and their "culture" (for lack of a better word) is practically nonexistent.

So what would be the motivation to have one's future descendents be four foot Greys?

So they can fit into their little spacecraft seats?

Save yourself a lot of trouble and just design bigger seats.

[edit on 28-4-2007 by Paul_Richard]

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Also, Greys are usually very short, ugly, even weaker than most Homo sapiens, and it is not much of a stretch that they probably have no sex life whatsoever. It also appears that their diet is much more limited than our own. Their God is Science and their "culture" (for lack of a better word) is practically nonexistent.

In other words, the Greys are like your average computer geek

Originally posted by merka

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Also, Greys are usually very short, ugly, even weaker than most Homo sapiens, and it is not much of a stretch that they probably have no sex life whatsoever. It also appears that their diet is much more limited than our own. Their God is Science and their "culture" (for lack of a better word) is practically nonexistent.

In other words, the Greys are like your average computer geek

Actually...worse.

Considering the fact that even Terran computer geeks have more going for them culturally and sexually.

Sounds like the beginnings of a Zetan-alien ROAST in ATS.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard

Further, Greys are usually very short, ugly, even weaker than most Homo sapiens, and it is not much of a stretch that they probably have no sex life whatsoever. It also appears that their diet is much more limited than our own. Their God is Science and their "culture" (for lack of a better word) is practically nonexistent.

Some might consider this a Utopian society. I think living in a more mental realm would be much more satifying than our animalistic selves. The difference between human and animal now is the ability to have higher thought. The ability to have a 'mental internet' would also bring peace to their society because knowledge would have to be shared and not coveted.

I'm sure telepathic satification puts traditional sex to shame. No sex organs means no male/female which means equality among the masses. You don't have to worry about overpopulation or 'bad seeds' because everyone comes from the laboratory and is perfect.

The future for them or anything would be to shed their bodies entirely and become beings of energy.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Further, Greys are usually very short, ugly, even weaker than most Homo sapiens, and it is not much of a stretch that they probably have no sex life whatsoever. It also appears that their diet is much more limited than our own. Their God is Science and their "culture" (for lack of a better word) is practically nonexistent.

Originally posted by Spoodily
Some might consider this a Utopian society.

For some to be sure. Which is why souls of that focus incarnate as Reticulans in the first place. But I don't think that most Homo sapiens would side with that cultural appraisal of Zetan society.

Originally posted by Spoodily
I think living in a more mental realm would be much more satifying than our animalistic selves. The difference between human and animal now is the ability to have higher thought. The ability to have a 'mental internet' would also bring peace to their society because knowledge would have to be shared and not coveted.

That is an idealistic notion to be sure. But in practical application, it appears that Zetan society feeds off of the genetic material of humanoid races too weak to defend themselves. That is not an idealistic or noble situation.

This is much like the political philosophy of socialism. With the basic premise that the people own everything, it appears to be idealistic. However, when translated into government, it becomes communism; whereby one party basically owns everything instead of the people running and owning it. This leads to a totalitarian state, which is also quite unpleasant and hardly idealistic. Communism has been proven to be a failed system. This was demonstrated by the economic collapse and disintegration of the Soviet Union into smaller nations.

Originally posted by Spoodily
I'm sure telepathic satification puts traditional sex to shame.

You mean perhaps like Radiated sensuality?

Well, I can definitely vouch for that.

It does indeed put traditional sex to shame.

No doubt about that.

As with many people, you tend to blend spiritual concepts with physical aliens when the two don't really meet. I have found no evidence that the physical aliens in question - the Zetans - have any telepathic ability whatsoever. But that is not to state that one cannot channel discarnate Zetans. A number of alien mystics, some of which have posted in ATS, are of that ilk.

Problem is, the focus of intellect and technology when they were in bodies did not lead those aliens to evolving to a point whereby when they crossed over into Spirit they are able to manifest what you coined telepathic satisfaction. That kind of energy is only truly realized on an individual basis in the Higher Realms and beyond. Discarnate Zetans, by virtue of their lives of spiritual indifference and selfishness, cannot ascend into The Light to a spiritual place in the Mid Realms, much less above it to the Higher Realms.

You can fool a lot of people but you can never fool the nonliving and infinite Light when you leave your body. If you don't deserve to go to a spiritual place, you can't trick The Light to get there.

Originally posted by Spoodily
No sex organs means no male/female which means equality among the masses. You don't have to worry about overpopulation or 'bad seeds' because everyone comes from the laboratory and is perfect.

Zetan-Grey sex organs appear to not be as pronounced as those of Homo sapiens. But I don't see how having no sex organs means equality among the masses. Zetan society emphasizes intellectual development even more than ours does. Abductee testimonial also points to a hierarchy or caste system whereby the Reptilians and Preying Mantises are the elite members of society.

Originally posted by Spoodily
The future for them or anything would be to shed their bodies entirely and become beings of energy.

Well...that's the real trick now, isn't it?

But in order for anyone to become a being of energy, you can't get there from pursuing the path of intellect and technology, and by being selfish.

You get there by striving to live by The Golden Rule, through the cultivation of selflessness, and through the Radiance of Love.

Something that the Zetan-Greys do not pursue, as they are Service-To-Self (STS) oriented, as opposed to Service-To-Others (STO) oriented.

So their evolutionary journey in the spiritual sense leads to a dead end.



[edit on 28-4-2007 by Paul_Richard]

Thanks again for the reply. I should have used a generic 'future human' scenario and not gone with the greys. I just used them for a visual reference.

Do you have any links to some sites that talk about the different races? I've read a little bit and find it very entertaining.

I've seen a real craft go from a standstill to a streak of light but never an ET, so my stance on them is skeptical believer. Crafts that can manipulate gravity are real, ETs are still a toss up for me.

Originally posted by Spoodily
Thanks again for the reply....

Do you have any links to some sites that talk about the different races?

Sure.

I just today revised my Great Reference Links page. Scroll down about halfway for the links on UFOs, aliens, etc.

That is a good place to start.

Thanks for the link. Exactly what I was looking for.