In Ahmadinejad's Iran, Jews still find a space.

Judging from the above the majority of Jews living in Iran didn't think it was such a great place to live. The population has shrunk from 80,000 in 1979 to 25,000-30,000 today. There are 70,000,00 people in Iran and less than 0.3% of them are Jews.

OK. Point proven jews have been emigrating in large numbers from Iran since the late 70's. Are they being treated badly??? Probably. Are they emigrating because of a better future in a better land?? Why not?? The reason is irrelevant. The reality is that the topic of jews is always at the top of the headline, it's as if they seem to be the most important people in the world, yes they claim to be god's chosen people according to the bible, but that in itself raises a bigger question> Why aren't I one of god's chosen people and why aren't my children not going to be god's chosen people, am I gonna be the puppet of god's chosen people, and my children will suffer the same fate, that in itself makes me sick and not want to have children. But the topic of always checking on how jews are doing all over the world is just getting me tired. Who cares?! They are trying to make a living just like everybody else, so why do we and the media have to follow all their succeses and trials everytime. Don't get me wrong we like to see news of other places and people sometimes, but sometimes that just goes over the limit when they start putting stuff on the news like, somebody spit on a jew, and now that guy is gonna be targeted as a terrorist or a criminal, haha, maybe the jew pissed him off , and that's why he got spit on, and almost jumped, that could have happened to anyone, but no!!! IT'S A JEW so it's gonna make the front page, and ofcourse the media will never show the full story of what happened, and what happens next well you know the sympathy starts kicking in in favour of the jew.

So please lets not make a thread or a topic out of nothing.




[edit on 30-4-2007 by bartholomeo]

whatever you say stormrider, whatever you say. The propaganda is for people like you to believe. I bet you also think that Palestine was an empty barren land before it was transformed to a paradise too. LOL

Just to show you how much your zionist propaganda is not working...just look at your last little line there about Jordan and holy sites. The Ottomans who were Muslims held all those lands for centuries. If it was as bad as you and the zionists try to make it out to be then how so did all the chruches as well as other religious icons and sites survive through it all. The Zionists bring nothing extra special to the table that wasn't already there before. Your talking points are all for people like you to consume and disseminate.

Just so you know this isn't just about Muslim arabs.Even though most of your talking points have something to say about Muslims. There are arabs of all different religions in the Middle East/Israel and Palestine.

Im surprised you didn't mention the Philistine/Palestine thing and how the Romans named it. Thats a standard Zionist phrase. You are slipping.

You deal with it. I will deal with the truth and not your idea of the truth with a bible being used as a land deed and your zionist historians rewriting history to glorify themselves.

Stormrider, i do not know where you get your facts, actually I do now that you've posted a link, but you are easily pursuaded if you believe one guys point of view of history in an arbitrary fashion, that obviously is partison to the jewish state. And is obviously wrong! Except for the praying towards and away from jerusalem. That was accurate.

I will provide some links in the hopes that you will fight the urge to go against the ego and see the real truth behind the controlling doors of organized religion. I hope with these links you can extrapulate the real truth.

And rememeber... there is only ONE GOD, and he loves EVERYBODY the SAME!

Here's my proof... There's enough religion to start wars, yet there isn't enough to stop them. Does that sound like GOD?

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Zionists prefer to rely on the Old Testament, citing Genesis 13:15 where God said to Abraham, "For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever." They construe this verse to teach that a large chunk of the Middle East still belongs to the Jews today, including the ancient lands of Edom and Moab, even though God said in Deuteronomy 2:5, 9 that He would never give those lands to the Jews.

Something to remember, which I can't believe it isn't argued more, is that these passages are as vague as Nostadomas. "The Land of Israel" can easily be interpreted as the current gathering place for a historically nomadic group of people that have had a long history of exile and prejudice.

This is about common decency, not who's GOD is right (because there's only one). The old testament says "forever." Who cares, the muslims don't interpret it that way. So, we are left with what makes sense. CULTURE! That is what seporates greed, and religion, and absurdity. You are trapped by the agrssive influence of the Masses. You have tasted the bit of truth of the ONE GOD, and let others tell you that that feeling was THEIR GOD, and then told you to gaurd that inch of the truth and persecute anything that trys to dismay. This is common cultural controlling. Remember that. read about it in history. It was Pope Urban II who called for the masacre of thousands who wouldn't convert. Is that GOD? I don't think so.

I'm sorry to seem frank, but this has got to stop. If you are a religious man, then your point of reference is GOD. Ask him what he thinks, YOURSELF. The truth is always self-evident. Let these confused souls hash it out and let GOD sort it out.

AAC

AAC

None of your arguments or links have, in any way, discounted or disproven any of the bullet points that I attached to my last post. All you have given me is "opinion". Why don't you take each of the "facts"that I have offerd and disprove them with factual evidence from historical texts or other sources and then I will have something to respond to. Don't just say that the points mentioned are untrue, prove it. Until then, I stand by those "facts". Wishing that they weren't true doesn't make it so.

And, BTW, my religion, or lack thereof, has no bearing on the subject. Facts are facts, regardless of whether they agree with your world-view, or not.

[edit on 5/1/2007 by Stormrider]

Yeah especially facts based on what the Unity Coalition for Israel say just absolutely have to be historically true in every way shape or form. Anything anyone else says is just opinion based. I wonder if there are any existing Caananites left in this world, surely some had to escape the massacre the israelites dealt them. I guess if some did exist then they too would be SOOL because God didn't tell some guy in a burning bush that its his even though he was there before either of the two.

Originally posted by ThePieMaN
I wonder if there are any existing Caananites left in this world, surely some had to escape the massacre the israelites dealt them.

Surprisingly, their descendants do still exist. Would it surprise you if I said they're the Lebanese?

Funny that in the last Israeli war, Israel had been trying to invade the Lebanese lands. Was it history repeating itself, or just a coincidence?

[edit on 1-5-2007 by DJMessiah]

Originally posted by DJMessiah
Surprisingly, their descendants do still exist. Would it surprise you if I said they're the Lebanese?

Funny that in the last Israeli war, Israel had been trying to invade the Lebanese lands. Was it history repeating itself, or just a coincidence?

DJ
I always thought we were descendants of the Phoenicians, at least for the Maronite Christian Lebanese. I also believe that due to the fact that Romans raped and pillaged their way through the Middle East we are probably also a mish-mosh of other things as well as assyrians and other invading hordes. LOL

History repeating itself is definitely possible, especially their attempts to bomb Baalbek which is thousands of years old and irreplaceable. I believe it was nothing more then attempting to rid themselves of the tourist and banking competition personally. Its a beautiful place when its not being bombed or fought in. I have a 150 year old stone house in the mountains that we recently refurbished and have only gotten to see it twice in my lifetime. I only wish to see the Palestinians back in their country, and Syria and Israel stay the %%%% out.


Pie

Originally posted by Stormrider
AAC

None of your arguments or links have, in any way, discounted or disproven any of the bullet points that I attached to my last post. All you have given me is "opinion". Why don't you take each of the "facts"that I have offerd and disprove them with factual evidence from historical texts or other sources and then I will have something to respond to. Don't just say that the points mentioned are untrue, prove it. Until then, I stand by those "facts". Wishing that they weren't true doesn't make it so.

And, BTW, my religion, or lack thereof, has no bearing on the subject. Facts are facts, regardless of whether they agree with your world-view, or not.

[edit on 5/1/2007 by Stormrider]

You obviously didn't pick up on the underlined point. I posted opionion links just like you did. What you posted wasn't facts. Just so you know. You believe what you want. History has been distorted, just as your perception of it.

"Facts are facts." That was so considering you have yet to post any.

Let me ask you this, if it is the bible that says a land is yours, yet the present occupiers do not believe in your bible, what should be done? Just say 'I am right and move along?' I believe that is what UN resolution 242 has signified. Considering that resolution demands the immediate withdrawel of Israeli troops from Lebonon and retreating to pre '67 war borders, which they have yet to comply on. So, the world organization says israel you must get out of their land, yet you believe your religion supercedes all. Sounds pretty prehistoric to me. I guess opinioons very.


AAC