Billy Meier UFO Contact Hoax: Discussion

Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by SuicideVirus

Okay, so Billy Meier is absolutely, 100 percent the real deal, and he's flown around in these spaceships and gotten all this information from his space buddies, which is all true and real and bona fide. Anything dubious about his story is a result of misunderstandings, people setting him up, his own experiments, etc. Okay.

Thanks SuicideVirus. 2 down. 386 to go.

Okay, now you're just toying with me. You never answered my question.

What now? What are we supposed to DO about it?

Originally posted by SuicideVirus

What now? What are we supposed to DO about it?

Supposed to do about it? SV, I don’t think you're supposed to do anything about it.

But everyone gets to decide what to ‘do about it’ when they finally ‘get’ it.

Many sit back, relax and start beginning to enjoy the infinite mysteries of life.

One of the mysteries of life that many enjoy watching is those people who go running around waving their arms, shaking their fists and yelling obscenities about how its ‘not a mystery’, “It’s a hoax!”

Originally posted by SuicideVirus
What now? What are we supposed to DO about it?

Well if ya believe Meier-youre supposed to become a member of his group and give a portion of your income to FIGU.

If youre on the other side, that believes there is in fact genuine mysteries but Meier isnt one of them, then just sit back and laugh.

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And the truth is that Billy Meiers was visited by extraterrestrials who let him take some pictures of their craft, took him for a flight, showed him a ray gun and a few other things. Unfortunately for Billy they did this so they could stimulate human consciousness, not prove their existence. So as a result every little piece of tantilizing evidence can usually be refuted.


I have been diligently working my way through this thread, then got the idea to see what had been posted at the end (bad move I admit it - skip to the ending, yes I did that) and whoa! 55 + posts, so I apologize if this is old history , but I have found a post that piqued my interest - I found this statement really quite interesting. Not the truth part, but the idea that the extraterrestrials did this to stimulate "human consciousness" (with Billy Meiers I guess). I apologize in advance if this material has been already covered; but again; I find this to be a signifigant statement. I read a book back in the 80's ; I think it was called Encounters of the Fourth Kind
in which the author was exceptionally objective; neither for nor against, and in which his apparent projection was that IF ets exist they are explicity and implicitly causing conundrums which stimulate interdisciplinary (to say the least) inquiry. I guess I just want to ask - why was such a statement made? This thought has occured to me numerous times; and I was surprised to see it thrown out casually and just as casually ignored. Why would ets deliberately do this? Why would they be interested at all in human development in this way?

Why are we worshipping johnlear's trophy room instead of closing the case on Billy Meier being a fake?

If we want to worship johnlear, then can't we start a thread about it instead?

The above is stated as my opinion and is not substantiated with fact, other than knowing that wedding cake UFO models, built on the base of a bin lid, do not fly.

Originally posted by tezzajw
Why are we worshipping johnlear's trophy room instead of closing the case on Billy Meier being a fake?

You mean those UFOs in John's room aren't REAL????

Look, I'm your friend, OK? John's been pretty easy about this. I know he says what he says, but someone once told me, "Don't take Lear seriously. he's not serious." So in light of that I think a little comic relief once in awhile won't hurt anything. Besides, Lear and I are probably the two oldest geezers on this board. We're just having a little fun.

Originally posted by schuyler
You mean those UFOs in John's room aren't REAL????

You mean he never had them shipped over in a special CIA operation from the Swiss country side? Damn!

Billy Meier himself, could not have crafted anything as fine as those UFOs that johnlear has claimed he has never seen. Billy would at least have needed two arms to make those!

Originally posted by tezzajw
You mean he never had them shipped over in a special CIA operation from the Swiss country side? Damn!

Not to sure about this but, i doubt they will tell the pilot "if" such thing was needed to be shipped from Switserland. Maybe John can share a bit of CIA info about "Knows what is being shipped in his plane"

Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by SuicideVirus

What now? What are we supposed to DO about it?

Supposed to do about it? SV, I don’t think you're supposed to do anything about it. But everyone gets to decide what to ‘do about it’ when they finally ‘get’ it. Many sit back, relax and start beginning to enjoy the infinite mysteries of life.

One of the mysteries of life that many enjoy watching is those people who go running around waving their arms, shaking their fists and yelling obscenities about how its ‘not a mystery’, “It’s a hoax!”

So it's kind of like Christianity. You spend most or your time and energy trying to convince other people that things happened the way you said they did, but the message itself, like "be excellent to one another," doesn't require any particular action. Well, that's just very disappointing.

Originally posted by Cygnific

Originally posted by tezzajw
You mean he never had them shipped over in a special CIA operation from the Swiss country side? Damn!

Not to sure about this but, i doubt they will tell the pilot "if" such thing was needed to be shipped from Switserland. Maybe John can share a bit of CIA info about "Knows what is being shipped in his plane"

Uh, I know mods don't like short posts, so I apologize from the bottom of my heart. I think pithiness and conciseness ought to be one of the criteria used, hence:

WTF?????? LDOTFCWAG*

* Laying Down On The Floor Crying With Abject Grief

Originally posted by jritzmann

Originally posted by SuicideVirus
What now? What are we supposed to DO about it?

Well if ya believe Meier-youre supposed to become a member of his group and give a portion of your income to FIGU.

He's definitely barking up the wrong tree on that one. I'm a Meier gnostic. If you believe, fine. If you don't believe, fine, too. I'm not going to spend any money or time working or helping someone else work to convince people of the truth. Besides, Mr. Lear says further action is not required, and I go with what he says.

If youre on the other side, that believes there is in fact genuine mysteries but Meier isnt one of them, then just sit back and laugh.

Oh, I always laugh. "If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane." Jimmy Buffett. Now there's something to believe in.

[edit on 25-5-2007 by SuicideVirus]

Originally posted by SuicideVirus

So it's kind of like Christianity.

Nope. Most assuredly not.

You spend most or your time and energy trying to convince other people that things happened the way you said they did

Only if you were assigned to do so. If not, sit back and relax.

but the message itself, like "be excellent to one another,"

Not sure whose message that is but sounds nice.

Well, that's just very disappointing.

Many agree with you. Thats why they have to keep doing time on earth.

Originally posted by schuyler

Uh, I know mods don't like short posts, so I apologize from the bottom of my heart. I think pithiness and conciseness ought to be one of the criteria used, hence:

WTF?????? LDOTFCWAG*

* Laying Down On The Floor Crying With Abject Grief

Maybe you can explain what this has to do with me?

Originally posted by Cygnific
Maybe you can explain what this has to do with me?

I respectfully request tezzajw to do that, if he would be so kind. I would be much indebted to him if he would for I am quite sure I am inadequate to the task. I fear failure and earnestly hope he will bail me on this one. With all due respect, I prefer to decline.

Originally posted by johnlear

Many agree with you. Thats why they have to keep doing time on earth.

I absolutely agree with that. "The good die young." It's because their sentence is not as long.

Originally posted by schuyler

I respectfully request tezzajw to do that, if he would be so kind. I would be much indebted to him if he would for I am quite sure I am inadequate to the task. I fear failure and earnestly hope he will bail me on this one. With all due respect, I prefer to decline.

I ask you because you quote me, if you think i made some mistake/miscommunication somewhere and come with a "WTF?????? LDOTFCWAG* " reply, i want to know why you wrote that and what for. Dont let tezzajw explain your cryptic way of replying.

Originally posted by Cygnific

I ask you because you quote me, if you think i made some mistake/miscommunication somewhere and come with a "WTF?????? LDOTFCWAG* " reply, i want to know why you wrote that and what for. Dont let tezzajw explain your cryptic way of replying.

Okay, sweetheart. I'll tell you. You took a joke seriously. Savvy?

Originally posted by schuyler

I absolutely agree with that. "The good die young." It's because their sentence is not as long.

Interesting quote, maybe your life feels like a sentence. But that doesn't mean it is a fact that everybody is here to do a sentence. If you have proof to share here, then ofcourse i will agree with that quote to.

Originally posted by schuyler

Originally posted by Cygnific

I ask you because you quote me, if you think i made some mistake/miscommunication somewhere and come with a "WTF?????? LDOTFCWAG* " reply, i want to know why you wrote that and what for. Dont let tezzajw explain your cryptic way of replying.

Okay, sweetheart. I'll tell you. You took a joke seriously. Savvy?

I know you joked about the UFO's in John's house! I just wanted to point to a flaw in the joke. I just didn't understand what your reply was about

Originally posted by johnlear

You are watching too much TV.