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Iran to Release 15 UK Sailors/Marines

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posted on Apr, 4 2007 @ 11:13 PM
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Here is the latest on the return trip home..


Br itons to leave Iran at 0430 GMT on London flight

TEHRAN (Reuters) - The 15 British military personnel held by Iran will leave Tehran at 0430 GMT on Thursday on a flight to London, airline officials said, ending a standoff that raised international tension and rattled financial markets.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a news conference broadcast round the world on Wednesday he had decided to forgive and free the 15 even though Britain was not "brave enough" to admit they had strayed into Iranian territory.



posted on Apr, 4 2007 @ 11:16 PM
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Report of 15 at Tehran Airport


British sailors arrive at Tehran airport

TEHRAN, Iran — Fifteen British sailors and marines released by Iran arrived at Tehran's airport early Thursday and were expected to board a commercial flight to London, according to an Associated Press reporter at the scene.

The 15, whose release from nearly two weeks in Iranian captivity was announced Wednesday by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, arrived in a convoy of sedans that drove directly to the presidential VIP section of the airport, the reporter said.



posted on Apr, 4 2007 @ 11:33 PM
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Is this even being covered live on any news outlets?
I have searched my channels (East coast us) and have found nothing.

Anybody seeing this?





posted on Apr, 4 2007 @ 11:44 PM
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Well you see, Iran claims certain boundaries, Iraq claims certain boundaries, Kuwait claims certain boundaries, but none of them have ever agreed on it, and quarrel about who owns what.

And lets face it, they were captured right near the Iranian coast. The sailors have themselves admitted to this, but ooo it was under coercion. The sailors themselves, say they trespassed, and they understand the response to it, but ooo it was under coercion, even though upon inspecting the video, there are no signs of coercion at all, not even nervousness in the voices.

On the maps that Iran posted, they were in Iranian waters, undisputed. In the map that Britain posted, they were in Iraqi waters, disputed. Who are we to believe?

And of course, the British troops wrote letters saying how there needs to be a change in policy, and how the West needs to stop pecking its nose on other peoples trees (figuratively speaking), and needs to stop its "imperialistic intervention" in the Middle Easts business. Why would they write that? Oh yes, I forgot, they were coerced somehow, even though nobody says how or gives proof to support the how.

Why would Iran capture these troops in Iraqi waters? What would that have achieved? What would letting them go without incident prove? Nothing. It wasnt the Iranians who tried to provoke the British, it was the British who tried to provoke the Iranians, and they have tried before a few weeks before these sailors were captured, a crew of other sailors were captured in Iranian waters, and were released without incident.

Just think a little bit, people. Of course Iran was trying to avoid being bombed, that is the whole plan for the West. I know youll never hear this on the crooked news, but if you actually go read the quotes, Britain, America, and Israel have already said many times in the past "we can attack 200 Iranian sites" "we could bury them in a carpet of bombs". War mongerers, and they are trying to provoke a war right now.

The rogue American regime, and its allies like Britain, want to create conflict. They want to create chaos in the region.

Remember, the Elite, like David Rockefeller in his autobiography, wrote back in the 90s how we need wars and famine and diseases to kill off the "useless eaters". They said they had a plan to reduce the population by 80 PERCENT, including all non-whites.

Look at whats happening in Africa and the third world right now. Look at whats happening in the Middle East. These regions are being decimated by wars and famines and diseases, right directly in line with what David Rockefeller wrote. Whats really going on here? THINK ABOUT IT!



posted on Apr, 4 2007 @ 11:45 PM
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I'm thankful to see the British prisoners are going to very likely be released.

However, I'm dissapointed in seeing that the obvious Iranian political game propoganda has succeeded in affecting the minds of so many people on this board.

1. Get it out of your minds that Gitmo is how "Westerners" treat POWs. Those 100 - 1000 people running that show in no way represent Western views on treatment of POWs. Talk to any stinkin person over in Iraq who has had contact with POWs and you'll find that POWs are treated extremely well in nearly every circumstance. Why is it that two or three exceptions get all the attention? It is because people are so dependant on their TVs for thinking that they don't stop and think rationally about situation. I'm sorry but I'm truly dissapointed in Marge and others who are doing these comparisons. It is a complete fallacy to take isolated incidents and then compare them with the way way the Iranian government treated the British sailors. Iran was putting on a show in front of the world. Gitmo is the opposite......if those people at Gitmo knew millions of people around the world would be watching what they did it would have never happened (THIS DOES NOT EXCUSE THE BEHAVIOR OF THOSE AT GITMO, THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO CONVEY). If you compare Gitmo and the Iranian treatment of these British POWs you don't look at the circumstances surrounding each situation but simply fall into the ignorance of propoganda.

2. Why did Iran do this? Is it because Iran has such infinite hospitality? This is a serious question that needs to be asked instead of just flopping in front of your boob tube, seeing prisoners treated well, and accepting that as Iran having a wonderful government. Could it be that Iran treated the prisoners in thsi manner because Iran was being watched and scrutinized by the entire world? If you can't see that you are blind to the propoganda machine once again.

3. It is also extremely annoying to see how Souljah and others simply take the Iranian arguments for this taking place in Iranian waters as fact............simply because it furthers their own agenda. I think Souljah actually uses the word "fact" when he lays out his arguments.

4. Please try to get a grip and analyze the situation with your mind instead of just letting the TV tell you everything. Try to wrap your mind around why this event took place in the first place. Think about why Iran would release prisoners in this manner.

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[edit on 4-4-2007 by Bugman82]



posted on Apr, 4 2007 @ 11:56 PM
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Great to see they've been released.


Once again the Iranians' prove themselves to be masters at international politics. They are great at playing the game.


This whole exercise (quite purposely) serves to show everyone that diplomacy is the answer to these kind of "misunderstandings"..



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 12:02 AM
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It was a brilliant political ploy on Iran's part.

Iran gained everything in this incident and lost NOTHING. The soldiers confessed into entering Iranian waters and by treating them nicely, the soldiers return home safely and will speak of how well the Iranians treated them UNLIKE how the West treat's it's prisoners of war.

This not only boosts Iran's image in the Arab world, but throughout the entire global community - they treated their captives well and EVEN LET THEM GO after they admitted into tresspassing Iranian waters.

My oh my, brilliant move Iran...



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 12:14 AM
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Yep, you can bet that any attempts to attack Iran now will be viewed as an unwarranted and murderous act. I'm glad they did this, it's one less war we have to worry about.

Now we just have to focus on the Coalition forces withdrawing from Iraq, and leaving the Middle East alone.



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 12:43 AM
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Do people really want a war with Iran? It seems people will always rush to condemn anyone who dares speak out against America, I mean serious, do you people really want another war?

But you dont care, you wont be fighting it, youll be watching it on CNN or FOX, while people like us who rightfully speak out against the war, and against government corruption and lies, we are the ones who need to "get a grip"? I dont think so.

Get a grip. Your country cant afford another war, your military is already streched to its limits in with the wars they have now, so much so they have even resorted to hiring thugs and criminals from jails, they arm convicted criminals with machine guns and send them to Iraq! And we wonder why we always here these massacre stories and see the endless stream of pictures.

Do you really want a third war? You cant fight it, you will lose. Period. Sorry if I am breaking your little bubble that America is invincible, and is the most powerful country in the world, it is NOT. Period. China proved how they can manipulate our stock market. Our military is so weak, we cannot even defeat a bunch of ill-trained, ill-equipt terrorists operating out of caves and basements. You cant win this war, and you wont win a war with Iran, so give it up.

Pull the troops out now. Get them home, get them out of harms way. If they cared about the troops why do they send them in without proper equiptment? Why do they not care for them adequately when they come home? Get the troops out of there, youll see how fast things settle down, contrary to what the lying news says, that there will be total chaos if America leaves, absolute rubbish.

War is terrorism. Period. It is much easier to fight for ideals...than to live up to them...and your country doesnt live up to its ideals of peace freedom and prosperity. Get a grip.



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 12:51 AM
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I have not felt right about this issue from the beginning.I think they are making a point to the Iranian people and many other oppressed countries..It is such propaganda! The fruit baskets, the nike clothes, the red white and blue outfit they released the female in and the suits for the guys,(gag) They are creating the good guy bad guy senario to fool anyone they can next we will hear they sent them home first class.It was and is all bs.



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 01:34 AM
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Light worker I take offense to your anti American Slander. You are twisted and ill informed if you really harber such bad intent for our brave soldiers. Remember they are not the politicians and they are more powerful than you can imagine. And I totally disagree with you and your views of the American public.



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 02:09 AM
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Iran to Release 15 UK Sailors/Marines

I told yall so?


Where are all those escalating war-mongerers now?


These things tend to play themselves out.

I'm figuring that a settlement like this could have been reached with hezbollah and the kidnapped IDF soldiers as well.
Whatever happened to those IDF soldiers eventually?
Did Israel get them back?



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 04:21 AM
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And lets face it, they were captured right near the Iranian coast. The sailors have themselves admitted to this, but ooo it was under coercion. The sailors themselves, say they trespassed, and they understand the response to it, but ooo it was under coercion, even though upon inspecting the video, there are no signs of coercion at all, not even nervousness in the voices.


The sailors, did not say they were in Iranian waters, they said apparantly..... That itsself does not amount to a confession....




but ooo it was under coercion, even though upon inspecting the video, there are no signs of coercion at all, not even nervousness in the voices


That is utter bull, they were deprived of sleep, The female servicewoman, when she was being interviewd did not look right at all... The letters she supposingly wrote, were written before she wrote them herself... You can tell by the way the wording and the spelling was put into the 3 letters..As well as those who were shown later on, they were in some state, looked like they had not had any sleep whatsoever...



Nothing. It wasnt the Iranians who tried to provoke the British, it was the British who tried to provoke the Iranians, and they have tried before a few weeks before these sailors were captured, a crew of other sailors were captured in Iranian waters, and were released without incident.


I would like you to show proof first off all, before I even believe anything you post in here....



The rogue American regime, and its allies like Britain, want to create conflict. They want to create chaos in the region.


Oh here we go another American Bashing.. Pathetic.... If the UK wanted to create conflict, they could have used force, i.e. nuclear subs to force the issue!!!! Instead they went through diplomatic channels, to get those servicemen realeased. So again you are wrong in your assumption...





posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by spencerjohnstone
Oh here we go another American Bashing.. Pathetic.... If the UK wanted to create conflict, they could have used force, i.e. nuclear subs to force the issue!!!! Instead they went through diplomatic channels, to get those servicemen realeased. So again you are wrong in your assumption...


Once again, its proven that you are not allowed to speak ill of the USA.
If you do, your clearly pathetic.
Save the 'your so anti american/bush/western' CRAP at the door.
The point of the matter is,
Had this illegial war not of been instigated by the US and Britain, we wouldnt be on their maratime borders.

WE started this, dont ever forget that.

And neither side has shown PROOF of where those sailors were.
THey both showed there IDEA's, and both had internal people deny it.
Truth is, the borders ARENT certain on either side, its been in discussion for ever.

If you look at google earth maps,. we were closer to their area than the Iraqi's.

But I still say,

We have kidnapped Iranian nationals from Iranian territory ' consulates and embassies '

We have refused to release them, who knows WHAT treatment they are recieving.

Your winging and moaning about sleep deprivation?
how about you ask ALL the innocent people whom are being 'interrogated' at Abugrahib wether they think sleep deprivation is bad...

Look at them, they are smiling. They are happy. They were fed.
Thats a lot better treatment than we are giving ANYONE in our prisons.

Thankgod they are released but people like yourself seriously need to turn around and have a closer look at reality.

Iran plaid a perfect game of chess here, they showed how constrained we are by 'diplomacy'
And Frankly we are.

If this whole sagga (WOT) Was a legitimate threat to our way of life, we would take the gloves off and finish this fight.
People would understand, after all its THEIR life in jeopardy too.

It just goes to show, governmnet have to tread carefully, because there's no legitmate reason for us to be doing what we are doing.
If we step over the line, and let our gloves off, all those allies who are standing with us by the grips on their fingernails will bail.

Between GW Bush, Tony Blair and Ahmajadine, Id have to say both western Nations are in a LOT of trouble.

We've stumbled, fallen and made so many drastic mistakes through shear stupidity, its clear who the smart leader is here.
Ahmajadine is a very, very intellegent leader, and I cant wait for him to totally embarres Tony and George over what ever issue he decides.

And the only result the British and American leaders will have, is blind force.


'' How dare you out-smart us, prepare to experience 1000x suns be dropped on your head ''

Say, have we ANY proof of Nuclear weapons yet?
IF he's so hell bent on them, surely we'd have something to go on by now. Being scientists and military leaders have been kidnapped...

Some are saying Iran has folded, and are laying down in the face of brute force.
Well,we shall see. If they start easing on their nuclear rhetoric, well congrats it appears the russians have found a way to convince them WITHOUT bombing them.
If they continue their march towards nuclear research, then its obvious there prepared, and have backup for what ever force the co-alition throws at them.

I thought the Iranians detaining them British was going to kick off the next phase. I was wrong, them releasing them is going to show us whats going to happen next.

We can just blitz them now, we dont have to worry about hitting our only guys.
And we dont have to worry about them executing them being diplomatic negotioations are over.





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posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by Daedalus3
Where are all those escalating war-mongerers now?


I am still here


but I will admit that the peaceful route did work and engaging Iran and Syria did prove to be a good option. Which is what was said in the Bakers Report.



Whatever happened to those IDF soldiers eventually?
Did Israel get them back?


I'm not sure whats happened there, the UN has been asking for their release. But nothing has really come about of it.



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posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by esecallum
In Iranian hands these soldiers were safe from sniper,suicide bombers,mines and general attacks happening in Irak.

They were safe and having a great holiday.

In no danger from any attack.

Can you not see that?


They were safe from all that anyway - they were on a SHIP.



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 06:12 AM
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Ekkk!

John Bolton has just been OWNED by Tony Blair lol



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 06:39 AM
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the crew arriving in the uk



posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by JacKatMtn

Iran to Release 15 Prisoners


Iran 'to release British sailors'

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says 15 British naval personnel captured in the Gulf will be freed.
He repeated allegations that the British sailors and marines "invaded" Iranian waters, but said they would be freed as a "gift" to Britain.

He made the announcement at a news conference, in which he also awarded medals to the commanders who captured the British personnel in the Gulf.



I thought they were now known as "15 spineless cowards" as opposed to "15 naval personnel".

Their behavior throughout this whole embarassing spectacle was shameful and lined with cowardice.

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posted on Apr, 5 2007 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by Retseh

Their behavior throughout this whole embarassing spectacle was shameful and lined with cowardice.



WOW You must have been watching a different channel then most of us. I saw no signs of cowardice as you implied care to give us the video footage?

Now on a happy note looks like several Iranians got ticked off only use the p word do not want to swear here when they were moved from first class on the aircraft that flew the sailors home when they were moved to the tourist section.



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