Russia, China Order Forces To Highest Alert As US Forces Mass On Iranian Border

if it ends up UK/USA agaisnt Russia and China, the poop has really hit the fan

Um, there's a picture of Noah's Ark at the top LOL oh and advertisements for surviving the Apocalypse.. rofl..

This is another BS article. The site is fear-mongering and the people that made it are crazy, probably fundamentalist Christians.

[edit on 3/31/07 by RedDragon]

Originally posted by xmotex
Yeah I'd like to see some corroboration of this before we all start breaking out the iodine pills.

I have my doubts that Russia and China are going to start WW3 over Iran.

China migh very well not choose to do so but may get dragged in due to their alliance with Russia which do have a mutual defense treaty with Iran who has a mutual defense treaty with Syria.

TEHRAN AND MOSCOW CONCLUDED NEW MILITARY AND DEFENCE PACT

MOSCOW 2 Oct. (IPS) Iranian Defence Minister Admiral Ali Shamkhani and his Russian counterpart Sergei Ivanov signed a joint defence and military co-operation pact and immediately assured that the agreement is not a threat to other nations.

Ivanov highlighted Iran's importance in Russian foreign policy and said the two countries' co-operation in their software and hardware military industries sectors would be in line with promoting security and lasting peace in the region.

"Russia and Iran in practice, and not in words, are fighting this plague of the century" the Russian Defence Minister added, referring to the US-led international coalition aimed at "uprooting" terrorism.

www.iran-press-service.com...

They have plenty of economic reasons to defend Iran's interest but i think their alliance with Russia will ensure that they pick sides on this issue and leave little to chance. The following articles shows imo quite clearly how things will play out in the next world war...

The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which maintained it had no plans for expansion, is now changing course. Mongolia, Iran, India and Pakistan, which previously had observer status, will become full members. SCO's decision to welcome Iran into its fold constitutes a political statement. Conceivably, SCO would now proceed to adopt a common position on the Iran nuclear issue at its summit meeting June 15.

Speaking in Beijing as recently as January 16, the organization's secretary general Zhang Deguang had been quoted by Xinhua news agency as saying: "Absorbing new member states needs a legal basis, yet the SCO has no rules concerning the issue. Therefore, there is no need for some Western countries to worry whether India, Iran or other countries would become new members."

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The agreement to hold joint exercises is, in fact, unprecedented, and Hu went on to express satisfaction at the growth in relations between the two armies. Not that you would know any of this from our lethargic press.

The Chinese and Russian news services played up the story, and AP and Reuters correspondents promptly filed detailed reports from Beijing. But most U.S. print media-The Washington Post, for example-ignored the story. The New York Times Tuesday cut it down to two sentences tacked onto the end of a roundup titled "World Briefing" on page A6.

NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia over Kosovo in 1999 had already heightened the need felt by China and Russia to buttress mutual security ties. The experience eroded the confidence each had in its ability to advance and protect its interests by using its veto at the United Nations Security Council. That confidence suffered a far more serious blow when the United States and UK decided to attack Iraq without explicit Security Council approval. This created even stronger incentive for Russia and China to quicken their rapprochement.

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The two would-be superpowers held unprecedented joint military exercises Aug. 18-25. Soothingly named “Peace Mission 2005,” the drills took place on the Shandong peninsula on the Yellow Sea, and included nearly 10,000 troops. Russian long-range bombers, the army, navy, air force, marine, airborne and logistics units from both countries were also involved.

Moscow and Beijing claim the maneuvers were aimed at combating terrorism, extremism and separatism (the last a veiled reference to Taiwan), but it’s clear they were an attempt to counter-balance American military might.

Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants. As the Pravda.ru Web site announced, “the reconciliation between China and Russia has been driven in part by mutual unease at U.S. power and a fear of Islamic extremism in Central Asia.”

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The new treaty is the first new friendship treaty since the Sino-Soviet pact in 1950. The new treaty will set up a new-type of interstate relations, different from those agreed to in the 1950s. It is "not directed against any third country" nor does it impose any obligations to each other.

The only goal of the treaty is to enhance the strategic relations between China and Russia and to provide a basis for world peace and stability.

The two sides also agreed not to aim their strategic nuclear weapons at each other and said they would work to solve any dispute peacefully. "If a threat of aggression arises," the treaty states, the two sides "will immediately make contact with each other and hold consultations in order to eliminate the emerging threat."

www.china.org.cn...

"The Ministers expressed shared confidence that their meeting in Vladivostok would provide a new impetus to the trilateral dialogue in all spheres of mutual interest," it said. Even though the trilateral dialogue is considered informal, the Vladivostok meeting effectively institutionalised it as an integral part of their foreign policy and a key element of global politics.\par

The Ministers "confirmed that strengthening of partnership in the trilateral format met the long-term national interests of India, Russia and China," the communiqu\'e9 said. "They were convinced that development of mutually beneficial cooperation between the three countries in practical terms would make a considerable contribution to the strengthening of peace and stability not only in Asia but also globally."

China, Russia back India for Security Council seat

President Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Jiang Zemin signed the first post-Soviet friendship treaty between the two nations this week. "The treaty will bring friendship from generation to generation," Jiang said after the signing ceremony. "This is a milestone in the development of Chinese-Russian relations."

The U.S. State Department was quick to announce that the Chinese-Russian pact is no threat. But behind the scenes the new closeness between Moscow and Beijing is causing serious headaches in Washington.

Two months ago The Washington Times published a story, based on leaks from the Pentagon, that alleged that a February 2001 Russian strategic exercise was in fact a preparation to attack U.S. bases in the Far East in support of China. The exercises involved Russian Tu-22 Backfire bombers that flew close to Japanese airspace.

"The Russians were practicing nuclear intervention against U.S. troops on Taiwan," said an unidentified American intelligence official, familiar with classified reports.

www.cdi.org...##4

Economic might and military power therefore go hand in hand, and a tilting of the balance will, sooner or later, lead to a shift in the relative influence of nations. Seen in that light, you will be interested in a new study by a team of economists and planners at Goldman Sachs, called "Dreaming with BRICs: The Path to 2050." The BRICs \emdash a new acronym in world affairs jargon \emdash refers to Brazil, Russia, India, and China. They are large in territory and resources, they are populous, and, says the Goldman Sachs team, they are on their way up economically.

Will Brazil, Russia, India, China Be Superpower?

The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), an alliance grouping Russia, China and central Asian countries on Tuesday called for the US-led anti-terrorist coalition in Afghanistan to set a time frame for withdrawing its forces from member states.

Both Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan host US bases whose troops are involved in the Afghanistan operation.

The SCO also added Pakistan, Iran and India as observer nations.

SCO wants date for US withdrawal from Central Asia

MOSCOW \emdash Russia and China warned other nations Friday against attempts to dominate global affairs and interfere in the domestic issues of sovereign nations in what appeared to be a veiled expression of their irritation with U.S. policy.

China's president, Hu Jintao joins Vladimir Putin at the Kremlin to announce their agreement.
AP

Presidents Vladimir Putin and Hu Jintao signed a joint declaration after two days of talks calling for a stronger United Nations role in global affairs and opposing attempts "to impose models of social and political development from outside."

The two leaders also urged other states to renounce "striving for monopoly and domination in international affairs and attempts to divide nations into leaders and those being led."

While the declaration did not identify any specific country, it echoed similar veiled hints by Moscow and Beijing about U.S. policy in global affairs.

China, Russia warn of world domination

The signing of the 2001 Treaty for Good Neighbourliness, Friendship and Co-operation set in legal stone the sincere hopes of the two peoples for "eternal friendship and never enmity," marking a new phase in the maturity and stability of Sino-Russian relations.

In addition, demarcation of the 4,300-kilometre border was recognized in law, making it a link for "peace, friendship, co-operation and development." This also removed uncertainties that had surrounded political ties and provided security guarantees for future generations and a foundation for deeper growth of bilateral ties.

This year's joint communique signals that relations have entered their best-ever phase. These joint military exercises are the result of the two countries reaching an important stage in relations and a manifestation of the pragmatism demonstrated by both sides.

Sino-Russian relations blossom

There is no subtlety in the Treaty on Good Neighborly Friendship and Cooperation Between the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China. Presidents Jiang Zemin and Vladimir Putin designed their friendship treaty, signed in Moscow on July 16, to send a loud message to the Bush administration. That message in no uncertain terms tells the White House that it has a supremely mistaken notion about what kind of world it is. And if the United States continues on the dangerous hegemonic road it is now taking, the result will be global instability, thus compelling closer Sino-Russian security cooperation.

The Jiang-Putin joint statement proclaiming that the treaty is "not directed against third countries" is a fig leaf that can be quickly discarded. The naked truth is contained in their hope for a "just and rational new order" and in their opposition to numerous U.S. policies.

The spectre of a China-Russia strategic alliance is looming larger on the Eurasian continent. The signs are increasingly clear: Both China and Russia strongly opposed the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, during which the Chinese embassy was bombed by the Americans. Both China and Russia strongly opposed the US proposal to develop a theatre missile defence (TMD) system and to amend the Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile (IBM) Treaty with Russia. In the UN, China joined Russia and Belarus in co-sponsoring the motion to keep the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty. The motion was recently passed by the UN General Assembly.1 Russia recently conducted a series of missile tests amid mounting Western protests against its military actions in Chechnya. China has expressed support for the Russian military actions.

In December 1999, Boris Yeltsin cancelled his planned visit to France and Germany, but flew to China in spite of his illness. While he was in Beijing, he chose to remind the world — in the presence of top Chinese leaders — that Russia "has a full arsenal of nuclear arms." During the negotiation, Jiang Zemin expressed strong support for the Russian military actions in Chechnya by stating that no country has the right to intervene in the actions of a sovereign nation to crack down on separatist activities within its own territory. In return, Yeltsin expressed his opposition to the "special state-to-state relationship" for cross-strait relations proposed by Taiwan President Lee Teng-hui, and to Taiwan’s bid to join the US-proposed TMD system. The joint statement issued by the two leaders reaffirmed their opposition to any violation of the ABM Treaty.2

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So in closing while few in the west are aware of Russia and Iran's mutual defense pact it's how things stand and while Russia may choose not to openly involved those who attack Iran may expect stormy weather independent of season or how the weather used to be...

Stellar

Apparently the Russians found out that Cameron was planning a preemtive nuclear strike on russia and it was detected because the message went from Houstin Tx through the Kiev site over the weekend. Putkin told Obama that because of this Cameron should go, If not reply to: BlueRidge