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Can we agree on at least one alien/ufo video that could be real?

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posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 04:50 PM
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Out of the literally thousands of videos out there of Aliens/Ufos there has to be at least one video that stands out and hasn't been "debunked". I'm tired of coming onto ATS everyday and seeing a convincing video only to see the so called "experts" say it's a fake, next video please. Now I ask you a challenging question. Which one ISN'T a fake cuz that's all the evidence we need to prove they are real.



posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 04:54 PM
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I think the UFO under this thread could be real. I am not a skeptic, but I am a firm believer in the existence of UFOs and perhaps that they are even alien space craft...

Thread: (Tallahassee UFO)
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 05:23 PM
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That depends on your definition of "real".

The Phoenix lights footage is real, but there is debate on what the objects are.

If your definition of real is alien life piloting spacecraft, I don't think we can say any video is real. We have never seen a video that shows us the occupants.



posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 05:24 PM
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What you see in this video is very real, and the last one you see can't be debunked!
www.youtube.com...



posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 05:45 PM
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That's why I included both Aliens and UFOs in my post. I wasn't only specifying UFOs because I was thinking the same thing Dulcimer said. Yes the NASA footage is the best as far as it not being fake, but again we can't prove what it is cuz the visual detail isn't good enough.

[edit on 28-3-2007 by scribe94]



posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 07:13 PM
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Here's a pretty old photograph

What I know about it:

It was taken on the Ward sawmill in Slideward, colorado in 1929!
"experts" have not had any reason to doubt it's authenticity.
I guess finding proof of a hoax in such an old pic would be difficult and not surprisingly more recent analysis did not find anything to make them doubt the authenticity of the photo. of course this means he saw something and ook a pic. what the object is, remained "unknown".

Personally I think it's an intriguing photograph. Some reasons:

+It's not THAt bad a quality concidering it's from the 30's.
+1929 Is before the big ufo rage. Making it less likely to be a preconcocted hoax.
+Officials at the time and photo analists on a later date have no reason to doubt the authenticity. That makes it at least a phenomenon.
+The characteristics of this phenomenon seem to elevate it to a flying saucer type ufo.

4 +'s in my book.. I'm usually a skeptic but love this photograph despite that. and I have a soft spot for ooparts and it being from 1929 makes it almost that in way.



Love to hear what you think any skepticism or vice versa is welcome


PS. how do I insert images so you can see them on the forum instead of a link?



posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 07:32 PM
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I think the most convincing footage that i have seen are the nasa secret transmission videos. In my opinion, some of those videos show blatant proof of intelligence (objects can be seen moving into formations) and movement of objects (slowing down, stopping, speeding up, reversing/changing directions) which simply cannot be explanined as being space debris, shooting stars, astrorids, etc.



posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 07:39 PM
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People are to quick to "debunk" things on this site. There are alot of good videos. The mexican ufo wave has some incredible footage.



posted on Mar, 28 2007 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by kroms33
I think the UFO under this thread could be real. I am not a skeptic, but I am a firm believer in the existence of UFOs and perhaps that they are even alien space craft...

Thread: (Tallahassee UFO)
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Wow! Great footage here!



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 06:34 AM
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yep i agree with Dulcimer.

The phoenix lights is the best ufo footage ive seen to date. Deffo real, and not flares.

Brings back my childhood memories of watching the series V.



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 08:10 AM
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My vote definitely goes with the space-shuttle videos; there are several of them, but the best has to be the infamous "Where's MIR?" footage., simply because there are literally hundreds of UFOs swarming about, it was broadcast, and NASA is shown to be lying through its teeth to the world.

There are objects moving in front of earth, leaving earth's atmosphere, entering it too, zipping along in arcing formations just beyond the stratosphere, changing directions, slowing, speeding up....Simply none of this is possible if they are not intelligently controlled craft--or perhaps living entities.

Near-earth space is such a teeming aquarium NASA MC has no idea where MIR is. The camera doesn't know where to focus, you almost feel for them...almost. And the poor woman who has to narrate it at Mission Control says it all.



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 08:15 AM
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I agree that people are too quick to say "It's fake", maybe because it is easier to say "It's fake" rather then explain why it could be real. But thats just it. Have your doubts, but do not let them cloud your other judgements and senses. In the back of your head always think, "but what if this video isn't a fake?". It is to the point where computer graphics can make things look so real. They could hide things that are real.

Just keep that in mind



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 08:35 AM
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SOME of the NASA vids are very interesting to say the least, there really hasnt been a common sense explanation given by NASA folks to explain some of the UV vids we have seen. I would say that a good chunk of those vids can be and are "particles" of some type hanging in orbit with the shuttle being nudged around by the RCS. But there are some that defy explanation. NASA can only use "Ice" and "Dust" so many times before it comes across as ridiculous, and it has a few times already. Maybe they think if they keep using the dust and ice mantra enough it will make it more the truth in peoples eyes.

I agree with Drexon about the Tallahassee vid here - long vid. mostly stable shot and shooter is keeping a level head about it. It will probably end up in the WTH box for me.

I am most impressed with the Mexican military IR shots that were taken - the ones that were feebly debunked as oil rig burn off fires. Flames - especially ones of the oil rig burn off size - do some really odd things spectrographically that I dont think it was proven that these lights did. To my knowledge there was never anyone that proved the presence of any flame "flicker" and it would seem that some of that flicker would have shown up in an IR shot, at least a little. These things were as steady in brighness as the sun.

EDIT: To add, the Phoenix Lights were very well researched and pretty much explained IMO, but the craft that hundreds of people in the Phoenix area saw earlier that night (not the flares later in the night) has never been. If there was one video that I wish existed it would have been of that object.


[edit on 29-3-2007 by Lost_Mind]



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 09:55 AM
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I'm going to go with the Tremonton Film.
Filmed by a military man, and debated during the Durant Report, it was one of the few case studies picked for some top level folks to assess the threat.

And, the guy who came up with the "birds" explanation, even later (once he went from debunker to UFOlogis) denounced that idea, and stating he was following orders, to debunk at all costs...(Hyneck)...



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 10:03 AM
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My favorite ufo video and the one I really believe is real is the canadian ufo. The one where the guy uses colorful language. "Its a f'ing ufo".
That video is on ats and youtube and I believe it is an authentic ufo. I am skeptical on all other videos except for this one. Some of the nasa transmisions I also believe are authentic, and it is kinda ironic they stoped live feeds from space. I am not sure about the videos in space as alot of the things seen could be anything.



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by gottago
My vote definitely goes with the space-shuttle videos; there are several of them, but the best has to be the infamous "Where's MIR?" footage., simply because there are literally hundreds of UFOs swarming about, it was broadcast, and NASA is shown to be lying through its teeth to the world.

There are objects moving in front of earth, leaving earth's atmosphere, entering it too, zipping along in arcing formations just beyond the stratosphere, changing directions, slowing, speeding up....Simply none of this is possible if they are not intelligently controlled craft--or perhaps living entities.

Near-earth space is such a teeming aquarium NASA MC has no idea where MIR is. The camera doesn't know where to focus, you almost feel for them...almost. And the poor woman who has to narrate it at Mission Control says it all.


Hey GottaGo,

Are you saying that the "things" zipping across the camera's field of view are UFO's? I thought they were meteors. If they are craft of some type this video right here (along with the Shuttle "Ring of UFOs" clip) are indeed the most compelling video proof, IMHO.

Another thing..where are all of those hundreds of floating white specks in relation to the shuttle itself? Are they spread out over many miles but the magnification makes them look denser in quantity? That video with the long space tether had a lot of these floating particles too. I thought space was mostly empty. At leasst that's what we're taught in school.

What does NASA say about the objects zipping by in this MIR clip and the Ring of UFO's in that other video? They can't say that it's swamp gas. If they were trying to hide something, the videos wouldn't have been released to the public. Maybe we're in some kind of disclosure phase where the U.S. government is preparing the world by leaking info a little at a time..and then one day the President will hold major televised briefing to lay out the truth. That would be great!



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 11:23 AM
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carewemust

Meteors don't travel in arcing pairs normally. They don't accelerate from a stationery position (timestamp 1:17) They don't slow down and pulsate. They don't change course. They don't sit in stationery positions in front of the earth.

The quick deep-focus is quite revealing, when you see a glimpse of just how many moving things are farther out there--you can sense the cameraman's panic and thus the quick pullback and upping the contrast to blot out all but the most brilliant objects.

Also the pan toward earth wasn't such a good idea either, because then you see objects moving between earth and the shuttle's camera, and that is quickly abandoned too.

In short they're trapped. They don't know where to point the camera, and that is why the video is so dark and unfocused at the end.

As for NASA's response, they simply ignore all this, hoping we're not going to notice. They offer meteors, out-of-focus camera effects, space dust, ice crystals and the like if pressed.

The MC narrator keeps her cool, but the situation is ridiculous. They have no idea where what should be the only moving object in the picture is.

It's the UFO version of "Where's Waldo?"



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 02:13 PM
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GottaGo, I really want to believe that the streaking objects are alien craft, but my internal voice is saying that they are particles/debris which were caught in the Earth's gravity well and accelerated inward. I've looked at the video many times today in full-screen and just can't imagine that many intelligent craft coming for a visit in under 3 minutes. Besides, I never see much activity LEAVING Earth. With this many arrivals and no departures, you'd have lots of videos shot everyday by citizens all over the planet. Besides, if these aren't meteors, what would meteors skirting the Earth's atmosphere look like on one of these Space Shuttle videos? I gotta admit though that the two traveling together near the beginning of the clip are amazing. They are about the same size and are traveling side-by-side perfectly. -cwm



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by David2012
Here's a pretty old photograph

What I know about it:

It was taken on the Ward sawmill in Slideward, colorado in 1929!


Good picture and one I've never seen before.

Is there any provenance attached to it? Has anyone seen the original photo?

I thought the flying object looked very much like the trees and did a quick eliptical copy and paste of parts of the trees to add two more ufos. Also added another surface scratch..



I'm just pointing out how easy it is to manipulate a digital image, hence the question - has anyone seen the original hard copy photo?



posted on Mar, 29 2007 @ 03:20 PM
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the ONe thing that makes me hit my head in the wall is sceptict sayng "nnaaaa dude this was a weather baloon case solved there are NO ALIENS"
well mr.sceptic the thing is...
BALOONS dont have that shape!
BALOONS dont do MACH 10 at the radar on some near by plane!
BALOONS dont just stand in the sky then dissapear completly by going supersonic!
BALOONS dont go in groups of five(phoenix lights case was it?)
so enough with the baloons already,ballons should be on a birthday party not in the sky.


[edit on 29/3/07 by Unisol]



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