What Melted Cars 7 Blocks Away From WTC

Originally posted by richierich
reply to post by iamcpc

 

OK, here are your answers: First, why cars can explode but not people from EMP:

wtcdemolition.blogspot.com...

From that article: " Now a nuclear bomb will emit a great flux of gamma rays. These will ionize (expel electrons from) surrounding air molecules. The electrons’ behavior is such that a coherent electromagnetic wave front moves outward. This has been named an Electromagnetic Pulse, or EMP. An EMP will adversely affect any metallic objects that it intersects as it reaches them. A high voltage and current will be induced into the metal, which can cause circuitry, or any metallic parts to melt, catch fire, or explode. Just what an EMP will do to a metallic object is determined in part by the intensity of the EMP, distance to the object, angle, intervening shielding, and other factors. The intensity of an EMP from a nuke is determined by the strength/yield of the nuke, altitude of detonation, its type and design. In general, the smaller the nuke, the smaller the strength and effective range of the EMP it will produce. A multi-megaton nuke exploded in the upper atmosphere can cause a continent-wide EMP. A micro-nuke would yield an EMP of only some fraction of a mile. Possibly only a couple of blocks depending on where it was detonated, shielding etc. In my articles, I have repeatedly highlighted eyewitness accounts of phenomena that appear to ONLY be explainable via EMPs. Note this article on EMP effects states, "The ensuing massive sparking of cable jackets, their contact to frame and the ground, and breakdowns in connectors put the equipment out of action and lead to fires and explosions." For the record, I note that for decades now, first beginning with the military, it has been known how to “harden” planes and helicopters so as to block an EMP’s effects on their electronics."

Unless a person is very close to the EMP ( see FELIPE DAVID testimony) the gamma rays will not cause damage to people. People are NOT good conductors of electricity. There were exceptions: Felipe David had his skin hanging off of him, and he never said he was exposed to any fire, just ' heat', down in the subasements immediately after a huge explosion rocked the area and EVAPORATED A 50 TON PRESS!!

" Perhaps the most remarkable are the statements of 9/11 responder, EMT Patricia Ondrovic. She reached the WTC area shortly before tower 1 and WTC 5, 6 (right near her at the time) would be destroyed. She tried to enter WTC6, but was forbidden by guards. But as she looked into the lobby of WTC6 she “saw a series of flashes around the ceiling of the lobby all going off one-by-one like the X-mass lights that chase in pattern." This is best explained by one or more EMPs passing through that area and causing wires or lighting fixtures to “pop.” Furthermore, at that same time, she reports that cars near her, and right outside WTC6, caught fire for no apparent reason. As she started to flee, a car door exploded off a car and hit her and knocked her down and injured her ribs. All this happened as WTC 5, 6 and Tower 1 began to explode. The exploding car door is again only explainable via EMP. As I have explained here, “As the nuke(s)' concomitant EMP(s) (Electromagnetic Pulse) passed through her immediate vicinity, it intercepted the cars near her. The intense electromagnetic wave induces a great current in metal (and not in “people or paper”). The current becomes great heat, resulting in rapid expansion of said metal. A given car door can only expand so much before its boundary is reached and there is nowhere for the heat or expansion to go, which results in doors or handles (if they are metallic), etc. exploding off. This is why you will see some cars with only their paint vaporized (intercepted only low level EMP due to distance, angle, shielding etc.), and other cars will show a burnt front, but the back half is virtually "normal." The Electromagnetic Field and subsequent current is stopped at the boundaries of the doors.”

Ondrovic’ statements also indicate that WTC6 likely was itself destroyed by a micro-nuke which is further evidenced by its one large spherical hole. Note that Ondrovic’ interview with the WTC Commission is heavily redacted. I have noted that by the time it began its interviewing of 503 9/11 surviving responders, traitors from the CIA had been brought in, including former CIA Director, Woolsey. Her interviews are here and here."



More proof:

killtown.blogspot.com...
KT: You talked about the cars blowing up in your WTC Task Force interview, correct?

PO: Yes.

KT: Can you estimate how many vehicles blew up around you?

PO: At least three and some were on fire as I was running by. I was still on the south side of Vesey running west. The burning cars were between my ambulance and about the middle of the 6 World Trade where the lobby doors were at.

KT: Where you running on the street, or up the sidewalk?

PO: Up the sidewalk.

KT: When these vehicles blew up, was it kind of like what you would see in the movies where the vehicle pops up in the air when it explodes with a fireball coming out?

PO: I remember parts flying off -- I think I got hit with a car door. I remember they were also on fire, but I don't specifically recall the movie type fireball, but there was a loud bang as the door flew off the one car I was running past.

KT: Do you have any idea what was causing these vehicles to catch on fire and/or explode? Was the air temperature really hot as you were running by these cars?

PO: I don't know what was causing them to blow up. I didn't know at the time that I was trying to outrun a skyscraper falling on me, but after I found out what I ran from. I figured it was the impact of the building falling and residual effect. I am not an engineer, so I can only guess at a probable cause. I don't remember feeling any extreme heat.

KT: Could you tell if the vehicles blowing up on the street were only parked next to the WTC 6?

PO: I was only paying attention to my immediate surroundings, if there were any vehicles not near me blowing up, I wasn't aware of them, just the ones closest to me."

Next post more proof.

So one interviewer says that "I didn't know at the time that I was trying to outrun a skyscraper falling on me, but after I found out what I ran from. I figured it was the impact of the building falling and residual effect.".

Confirming that the flaming cars happened after the buildings collapsed.

Where is the source that says that cars blew up next to people before the buildings collapsed?

Do you usually get your WTC information from internet blogs?

Do you believe that internet blogs are reliable and accurate sources of information?

reply to post by iamcpc


Last time trying to get thru to you: The testimony is from an eyewitness, who was interviewed by the Task force. you would know that if you read it all.

The lady that had cars blown up next to her THOUGHT that it was the Towers BEGINNING to collapse that caused it: She said she had no idea what could make the cars blow up....since there was NO APPARENT cause, all she could think of was the collapses. Naturally. She could not see the EMP wave front.

These are NOT just blogs....the reports are testimony taken under oath. I linked to the official document, if you would actually go thru the material.

Fallings debris CANNOT, repeat CANNOT POSSIBLY cause cars to blast apart and catch fire all over...melting ENGINE blocks. The Towers were just starting to be blasted apart when the EMP effects were noted by MANY people.

Obviously you did not read the material, or you would not be nitpicking the things that are inconsequential. All you can do is scrath around at the edges and refuse to acknowledge the facts.

I presented enough material above to convinve ANY rational observer. If you happen to be an irrational observer, then that would explain your refusal to accect the FACTS:

The reports of EMP effects are reported widely and in detail. Since you CANNOT and HAVE NOT offered ONE plausible or sensible way that all these facts could be explained some other way speaks volumes.

If you believe you can outdebate the material I gave, go ahead. But you had better have more ammo than you have shown so far. There is NO OTHER explanation other than EMP for the effects seen. Please give us YOUR insightful and likley answer for what effects are documented.

If you cannot, then relent and leave the debate for those who are serious.

Originally posted by jprophet420

Originally posted by iamcpc

Originally posted by jprophet420

After maybe an hour or two, I got a signal

100% proof that his phone wasn't caught in an emp blast.

Then it's obvious it there is a difference between a nuke emp blast and a top secret advanced micronuke emp blast! Thank you for pointing out that top secret super advanced micronukes have an EMP blast that the general public does not yet understand. (much like how the general public does not yet understand micronukes and other super advanced top secret death star technology that was used to demolish the towers)

I'm an electronics engineer and EMP means ElectroMagnetic Pulse. What you are saying is that there is an EMP that is powerful enough to light a car on fire but not powerful enough to permanently disable a cell phone. Brilliant theory.

If you were an engineer you should know that SHIELDING, DISTANCE, AND POWER all affect the gamma rays and their dispersal.

Cell phones WERE blasted apart, as were radios. I linked to a quote from firemen whose radios burst apart. Others were shielded, as were cars, and suffered only partial damage. If there were no EMP's. how do YOU explain the effects seen?

How do YOU explain cars blasting apart next to people/ Also explain all the other EMP evidence. I linked to many sources, and you ignored them all. Are you a specialist in nukes and EMP? NO? Well then, how do YOU know that all the examples of EMP were actually something else, and what WAS that something else?

You guys that criticize others while NEVER offering any explanations of your own really irritate the people who examine evidence and come to a logical conclusion.

EMP CAN and DOES affect metal according to factors that were all evidenced that day: The gamma rays are lessened by structures and objects, and more forceful when there is less shielding and distance. The nukes used on 9-11 produced EMP waves that caused DOCUMENTED demage...damage that has NOT been addressed in any rational manner so far, other than by EMP.

Go back and really READ the material this time...then come back and tell us HOW all these effects were happening if it was NOT EMP...can't give an answer that is not ridiculous, can you?

Patricia Ondrovic was standing in front of Bldg 6 BEFORE anything collapsed...she saw the lightbulbs in the lobby of 6 blowing out, and immediately after that, the car next to her blew up and injured her. There was NO DEBRIS falling, and NO apparent reason for the cars blosing up.

I also quoted her later saying 3 MORE cars blew up as she was running..no heat, nothing falling on their heads, just cars blasting apart.

Now you say she was crazy and did not know what she was saying, right? please...go back to college and study nukes and EMP's for a while and then try and convince us it cannot be possible.

It is the ONLY possible answer. you cannot give us anything else, can you?

Originally posted by richierich
reply to post by iamcpc

 

Last time trying to get thru to you: The testimony is from an eyewitness, who was interviewed by the Task force. you would know that if you read it all.

The lady that had cars blown up next to her THOUGHT that it was the Towers BEGINNING to collapse that caused it: She said she had no idea what could make the cars blow up....since there was NO APPARENT cause, all she could think of was the collapses. Naturally. She could not see the EMP wave front.

"I didn't know at the time that I was trying to outrun a skyscraper falling on me, but after I found out what I ran from. I figured it was the impact of the building falling and residual effect.".

These are NOT just blogs....the reports are testimony taken under oath. I linked to the official document, if you would actually go thru the material.

I read the official document. I also read the two blogs you cited as sources.

Fallings debris CANNOT, repeat CANNOT POSSIBLY cause cars to blast apart and catch fire all over...melting ENGINE blocks. The Towers were just starting to be blasted apart when the EMP effects were noted by MANY people.

drjudywood.com...

She says the engine blocks melted. I also notice that, one of the pictures she uses as an example of a melted engine block, has a vehicle in the background with debri from the WTC on top of it.

The reports of EMP effects are reported widely and in detail. Since you CANNOT and HAVE NOT offered ONE plausible or sensible way that all these facts could be explained some other way speaks volumes.

Since you didn't think falling debri from a burning building was plausible then maybe you will listen to Dr. Judy Wood.

It was the death star lazer beam.

reply to post by richierich


(John McEnroe Voice) You can't be serious.

Unless a person is very close to the EMP ( see FELIPE DAVID testimony) the gamma rays will not cause damage to people. People are NOT good conductors of electricity. There were exceptions: Felipe David had his skin hanging off of him, and he never said he was exposed to any fire, just ' heat', down in the subasements immediately after a huge explosion rocked the area and EVAPORATED A 50 TON PRESS!!

I suggest actually doing a little research into nuclear physics before buying whatever crap some idiot posts in his blog like it's gospel truth.

Gamma Rays

You do realize Gamma rays are ionizing radiation, not bursts of electrons. That would be beta radiation

reply to post by iamcpc


It has become obvious that your posts are no longer worthy of my time. If all you can bring to the table are unproven and silly suppositions, then you have lost the battle.

I presented vast evidence...and all you can do is attack the site where the evidence is printed...amazing. I show the OFFICIAL Task Force interviews, and you ignore that...of course. I give vast evidence of EMP's, and all you can say is that all of us are wrong and you are right, while offering NOTHING in the way of a rebuttal.

I almost feel sorry for the official story cultists...clinging to an unproven and impossible story and refusing to recognize the facts.

You STILL have NOT given us a LIKLEY AND PLAUSIBLE explanation for what is seen and experienced by the people who testified. you have NOT told us why we should totally disregard the testimony of the first responders and others that I quoted...you have NOT given us any alternatives...because you CANNOT!!

Since you CANNOT answer the hard questions, you simply cliam that the source is unreliable ( with no proof ) and claim that all of US should get an education...with NO reason why we are wrong..and you STILL avoid desperately the main points:

I CHALLENGE YOU to do one simple thing: Tell us why we should believe YOU instead of the people who experienced and testified to that experience...tell us WHY all of them are wrong...tell us WHY cars blew up and injured people when there was NO debris falling around them ( not that falling debris could cause the damages seen)..tell us WHY we shopuld accept the official fairy tale..but of course..you cannot.

Remember the movie called " Mars Attacks"? It was a comedy, and at one point, on live TV, a family sees their son, an Army soldier, vaporized by an alien ray gun while he is holding a flag. The father shouts ' NO! It didn't happen!! it can't be!!".

Typical denial in the face of an unacceptable truth; many people simply cannot accept facts, even thoroughly proven facts, because to do so would undermine their entire foundations and leave them helpless and scared to death. Many people simply tune out facts that go against their preconceived notions and insist that reality is something else, even if they cannot prove it or give any convincing reply.

The people who continue to insist that the official fairy tale is true must be in that kind of denial; what else could account for those who are faced with overwhelming evidence yet insist that it cannot be? People who refuse to accept the facts do so to protect themselves from the result of acceptance:

If one accepts the truth, it requires a person to think about what it means, and what dangers it presents to us all. If the government has a group in charge that are mass murderers and traitors, it causes a certain number of people to fear for themselves, as well they should.

That fear blinds them; better to reject even vast proof and believe a lie than accept the truth and worry constantly that YOU might be the next one sacrificed for the greed and money. It personalizes the fear; if NO ONE IS SAFE, and anyone can be killed at any time for another false flag event, then there really is NO SAFE PLACE anywhere.

Many people cannot live and work and enjoy life if they believe that they too could be the next sacrificial lambs led to slughter for the profit of the big shots...they would be consumed by the fear...they could not go about their lives knowing that we are all at risk...SO, they simply reject all proofs, and ignore the facts and insult the people who try and bring the truth to them.

It is a self protection mechanism, well known in psychology... one insulates ones self from catastrophic realities by refusing to acknowledge it as real. Evidence means nothing...proof means nothing..all that matters is to protect the mind from such horror and fear, at any cost.

Sadly , denial does not change the facts...and cannot change the reality, no matter how bad it is. YES, there is a shadow govenment that has great power....YES there was an inside job done on 9-11 to give the Neocons what they needed....YES there were massive explosions and deaths caused by this plan...and the people that did it are NOT sorry and have NO regrets.

If that is too much to deal with....fine. believe what you will. But for Gods sake please do not insult OUR intelligence by asking US to believe the same things you do...not all of us would fall apart..not all of us would be unable to go on...and we cannot and will not believe impossible nonsense just to assuage our fears.

I wonder how these official story drones will react when one day the proof is shown that cannot be ignored or denied..when it become accepted worldwide that 9-11 was a set up, what will the official story believers do then? I can picture them, jaws dropping, eyes bugging, mind reeling...as they begin to comprehend the emptiness of their past beliefs and the incredible amount of hard proof that they ignored.

When the veil is lifted, there will be some very shaken people...and many of them will be those who post here and insist that we should believe the official lie instead of the evidence.

I think this pretty much sums "our" side of the argument.

Originally posted by richierich

It has become obvious that your posts are no longer worthy of my time. If all you can bring to the table are unproven and silly suppositions, then you have lost the battle.

Originally posted by richierich
go back to college and study nukes and EMP's for a while and then try and convince us it cannot be possible.

Its funny that he's the one to point this out, while ignoring that he should be listening to himself in this instance.

Originally posted by richierich

You STILL have NOT given us a LIKLEY AND PLAUSIBLE explanation for what is seen and experienced by the people who testified. you have NOT told us why we should totally disregard the testimony of the first responders and others that I quoted...you have NOT given us any alternatives...because you CANNOT!!

Debri from the collapse of a burning skyscraper with flaming jet fuel.

I CHALLENGE YOU to do one simple thing: Tell us why we should believe YOU instead of the people who experienced and testified to that experience...tell us WHY all of them are wrong...tell us WHY cars blew up and injured people when there was NO debris falling around them ( not that falling debris could cause the damages seen)..tell us WHY we shopuld accept the official fairy tale..but of course..you cannot.

Believe that it was debri from the collapse of a flaming skyscraper because the death star emp lazer is not real. Because the death star was not real then it could not have shot it's emp lazer at the twin towers.

Typical denial in the face of an unacceptable truth; many people simply cannot accept facts, even thoroughly proven facts, because to do so would undermine their entire foundations and leave them helpless and scared to death. Many people simply tune out facts that go against their preconceived notions and insist that reality is something else, even if they cannot prove it or give any convincing reply.

I think your typical denial in the face of an unacceptable truth. To accept the truth that nukes and the death star did NOT cause the collapse of the twin towers would leave you helpless and scared to death. You are insisting that nuclear bombs and the death star were used in the collapse of the twin towers. Even if you can't prove it or give any convincing reply

The people who continue to insist that the official fairy tale is true must be in that kind of denial; what else could account for those who are faced with overwhelming evidence yet insist that it cannot be? People who refuse to accept the facts do so to protect themselves from the result of acceptance:

The official fairy tale being that the death star shot an emp lazer beam at the twin towers?

That fear blinds them; better to reject even vast proof and believe a lie than accept the truth and worry constantly that YOU might be the next one sacrificed for the greed and money. It personalizes the fear; if NO ONE IS SAFE, and anyone can be killed at any time for another false flag event, then there really is NO SAFE PLACE anywhere.

That same fear blinds people both ways. People are blinded by the fear that their government could have murdered thousands of innocent people and then other people are blinded by the fear that a small group of people could have knocked America down a peg so they believe that their government is so incredibly powerfull that the only thing that can damage it is itself.

Many people cannot live and work and enjoy life if they believe that they too could be the next sacrificial lambs led to slughter for the profit of the big shots...they would be consumed by the fear...they could not go about their lives knowing that we are all at risk...SO, they simply reject all proofs, and ignore the facts and insult the people who try and bring the truth to them.

It is a self protection mechanism, well known in psychology... one insulates ones self from catastrophic realities by refusing to acknowledge it as real. Evidence means nothing...proof means nothing..all that matters is to protect the mind from such horror and fear, at any cost.

I agree. And this self protection mechanism works both ways. Some people who support the OS do this to fight the fear that it's possible that the goverment that has so much power could have done this. Your belief of the death star nukes is you insulating yourself from the catastrophic realities that there may be a group of people on this planet capable of weakening the country that you live in and kill thousands of it's citizens. To you proof and evidence mean nothing. All that matters is that you protect your mind from such horror and fear at any cost.

Sadly , denial does not change the facts...and cannot change the reality, no matter how bad it is. YES, there is a shadow govenment that has great power....YES there was an inside job done on 9-11 to give the Neocons what they needed....YES there were massive explosions and deaths caused by this plan...and the people that did it are NOT sorry and have NO regrets.

This shadow government has so much power that they have easily brainwashed you with propoganda so that you will believe, exactly what you were meant to believe, that the death star shot it's emp cannon at the twin towers.

If that is too much to deal with....fine. believe what you will. But for Gods sake please do not insult OUR intelligence by asking US to believe the same things you do...not all of us would fall apart..not all of us would be unable to go on...and we cannot and will not believe impossible nonsense just to assuage our fears.

ditto. Don't insult my intelligence by asking me to believe that the death star shot emp lazers at the twin towers.

I wonder how these official story drones will react when one day the proof is shown that cannot be ignored or denied..when it become accepted worldwide that 9-11 was a set up, what will the official story believers do then?

It's been 10 years. Nothing has come up yet. What about the JFK assassination? Nothing has come up about that either. I'm willing to bet you, thousands and thousands of dollars, than in the next decade no such proof will be shown. I'll bet my house and my car and all the money in my bank that, in the next 20 years, no such proof will be shown.




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When it comes to cars melting that far away from the wtc there isn't much to go on or at least I haven't fouond anything. Go to www.sott.net... and you might be able to find a possible answer. Personally I don't think any sort of aliens are working hand and hand with humans but I do think that they are co-existing on this planet and on the moon together. I think it is time to consider the real possibility that we can be introduced to extra-terrestrials real soon especially after the phoenix lights and o'hare aiport sightings.

Originally posted by GeneralFSTF23
When it comes to cars melting that far away from the wtc there isn't much to go on or at least I haven't fouond anything. Go to www.sott.net... and you might be able to find a possible answer. Personally I don't think any sort of aliens are working hand and hand with humans but I do think that they are co-existing on this planet and on the moon together. I think it is time to consider the real possibility that we can be introduced to extra-terrestrials real soon especially after the phoenix lights and o'hare aiport sightings.

I'm working on my own website. It'll be up soon.

It will provide proof to all you sheeple about what really happened that fateful day.

It was MOTHRA....

Can we be Facebook friends?

Originally posted by Midwest Agenda

Originally posted by Insolubrious
In short I would say its a proximity effect or a side effect of the 'sophisticated' explosive devices used to annihilate the towers. They have been exposed to extreme temperatures.

If by 'sophisticated', you mean Boeing aircraft then, yeah thats exactly what it was.

The thruth-goofers should stop claiming so many things brought down the towers and try to focus on one fantasy at a time.

They have put forward:

-explosives
-holograms
-space beams
-remote controlled airplanes
- pilots under hipnotic transes
-missiles

Talk about a conspiracy with A.D.D....focus people...F O C U S.

M.Agenda!

The REAL conspiracy festerers (the US Government) have put forward the conspiracy theory that the towers were not able to withstand an impact from a Boeing aircraft as an equally implausible reason for their collapse, especially building 7 that supposedly collapsed from the debris falling from the other two towers.

If the towers really were that shoddily built, they wouldn't have stood up to ANY modern day building codes.

Originally posted by GeneralFSTF23
When it comes to cars melting that far away from the wtc there isn't much to go on or at least I haven't fouond anything. Go to www.sott.net... and you might be able to find a possible answer. Personally I don't think any sort of aliens are working hand and hand with humans but I do think that they are co-existing on this planet and on the moon together. I think it is time to consider the real possibility that we can be introduced to extra-terrestrials real soon especially after the phoenix lights and o'hare aiport sightings.

If it was the death star it must have been driven by aliens because humans on earth don't have the death star.

[edit on 1-7-2010 by iamcpc]

It's been 10 years. Nothing has come up yet. What about the JFK assassination? Nothing has come up about that either. I'm willing to bet you, thousands and thousands of dollars, than in the next decade no such proof will be shown. I'll bet my house and my car and all the money in my bank that, in the next 20 years, no such proof will be shown.

you got a deal. Send me the deeds to your house, allow me to put a lien on your car, and send me all your bank statements as collaterol on your bet.

I thought not.

And by my reckoning, Sept 2001 to July 2010 is almost NINE years, not TEN.

Actually, the commission in charge of the Kennedy assassination investigation confirmed that there was "probably" more than one shooter and that there was a definite conspiracy surrounding the shooting.

You're on the wrong site if you don't believe in some of the biggest conspiracy theories of our time.

Originally posted by babybunnies
you got a deal. Send me the deeds to your house, allow me to put a lien on your car, and send me all your bank statements as collaterol on your bet.

I should send you the deed on my house after the bet is over.

And by my reckoning, Sept 2001 to July 2010 is almost NINE years, not TEN.

You are correct. I was incorrect. Well played. I give this post a star.

Actually, the commission in charge of the Kennedy assassination investigation confirmed that there was "probably" more than one shooter and that there was a definite conspiracy surrounding the shooting.

I believe you because you seem like someone who is decently intelligent and I will, accept on faith, that you have researched that claim.

You're on the wrong site if you don't believe in some of the biggest conspiracy theories of our time.

I agree 100%. Well played again!

I do believe in some conspiracy theories! I have no idea who was behind the JFK assassination. I believe that Lee harvey oswalt was involved in someway and that he was dealing with one or more people to coordinate the assassination.

I believe that I was lied to (or misled) about some (if not most) of the events that took place prior to 9/11/2001. I believe that I was lied to (or mislet) about some of the events that took place on 9/11/2001.

I have found lies presented by truther and debunker sites to muddy the waters of truth. It's almost like the entire truther/debunker movement was started via govenment propoganda to confuse the general public.



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That site must have implied a large space ship that had a large beam weapon. I have in mind the possibility that it was more like a satellite with a laser on it. It wouldn't have to be that big. I think they made a mistake with a weapon like that in burning cars that far away and possibly puting those holes in the roof of the smaller wtc buildings. Because if you go to architects and engineers for truth website, videos of the towers clearly show explosives on every floor or every other floor exploding outward as the bulidings were being demolished. Explosives are the answers for the destruction of the wtc complex.

[edit on 7/1/2010 by GeneralFSTF23]

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Huh? *shrugs*

Well, if you believe that site you mentioned...ummmm...there's little hope for any 'truth'...

But, just to point out your contradiction...did you not notice this?

I have in mind the possibility that it was more like a satellite with a laser on it. It wouldn't have to be that big.

Forgetting for just a moment that no such weapon exists!!! ....because, you finish your comments with:

Explosives are the answers for the destruction of the wtc complex.

I repeat...Huh?

This is the major problem that is occuring, with the advent of so many of these "conspiracy" sites...they talk out of their lower excretion orifices, and people buy it, hook line and sinker....

....like this:

Because if you go to architects and engineers for truth website.... videos of the towers clearly show explosives on every floor or every other floor exploding outward....

Nope. Not. True. You've been had, by the very websites that claim to promote 'truth'.

Sorry.

reply to post by GeneralFSTF23


Ah, the old DPG* got me!!

(*Double Post Glitch).

It's a 'conspiracy', I tells ya!

[edit on 1 July 2010 by weedwhacker]

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Attack me not the facts? I spoke of 2 theories yes but to make things clear how would you know if there was no such sat weapon? I have seen a history channel special that was talking about such a weapon. I only threw up "it was possible". I didn't put all my marbles in that 1 theory. Explosives make much more sense for the wtc. That is what I believe in most but I'm not gonna completely cross off that theory. We are getting away from the main topic in the cars so far away from the site. But please explain to me how I've been had by the ae for truth.

reply to post by GeneralFSTF23


Well, I can only assume that you haven't read this entire thread, and seen the more mundane explanations for how the cars came to be some blocks away...or, if you might have skipped over some posts, and missed them.

This issue with the cars has become, yet again, another in a long history of Internet myths that have surrounded the events of 9/11.

These myths spawn somewhere, who knows? Maybe a wild speculation, casual guess...and before you can say "Boo!" they're being expanded into the most incredible (and incredulous) so-called 'theories' --- usually with zero investigation nor evidence to back them up.

Here is a normal, rational and logical question that should be thought of FIRST --- with all of these incredible "theories" being bandied about, why were only cars seemingly affected??

Why not the people nearby? The stop signs, and street signs? The other nearby buildings?? Aren't they made with metal too??

Fire hydrants...you name it...why not affected????

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I agree with you, ultimately until there is an investigation or a leak we can only speculate as to what chose to affect just the cars.