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posted on Dec, 24 2003 @ 12:08 PM
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Hey everyone...

Michael Moore has an interesting feature on his website...He is posting letters he has received from soldiers overseas fighting in Iraq. It's pretty interesting to read their thoughts....

www.michaelmoore.com...

Please give them a read and post your thoughts here...you can find the first on the main page with a link to more right below it.

Thanks everyone!



posted on Dec, 24 2003 @ 01:43 PM
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Just like his fictious "documentary"


They should strip him of the Oscar!



posted on Dec, 24 2003 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by Apollyon
Just like his fictious "documentary"


They should strip him of the Oscar!


You know, his documentary was checked over by a team of impartial lawyers and they found NO inconsistencies or lies in it.

Do you honestly think they'd let him release a movie like that if every fact wasn't correct?

Since its release, there have been ZERO law suits against him or the studio's, so shut the hell up.



posted on Dec, 24 2003 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Apollyon
Just like his fictious "documentary"


They should strip him of the Oscar!



Anything that casts bush or the nra in a negative light is fake...Didn't you know that?

Grow up and open your eyes. He addresses all of that BS you're spreading on his site also...He deserved that oscar. He made an incredibly powerful documentary that everyone should see. Besides I didn't make this post about the movie. I made this post so you can all read the letters he is receiving from soldiers fighting in Iraq. So read them and learn something.



posted on Dec, 24 2003 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by Apollyon
Just like his fictious "documentary"


They should strip him of the Oscar!

To much michael savage and rush limbaugh. Wake up Apollyon!!! They don't give awards like that to fiction!!



posted on Dec, 24 2003 @ 03:56 PM
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Ahh yes, good ole' Michael Moore.....nothing more than a liberal hypocrite. Think not, read on:

"Michael Moore: Class Clown"
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frontpagemag.com...

Excerpts:

"Those willing to call themselves "liberals" in these 2002 exit polls shrank to only 17 percent � roughly one voter in six � while conservatives increased to include more than one voter in three.

Moore�s self-deluded book has spent the past 10 weeks on the liberal New York Times Nonfiction Bestseller List (bumped down to #4 this week by fellow Lefty Al Franken�s competing anti-American screed). But, truth be told, a Politically Correct author can climb this list with only a few thousand book sales in the right (that is, the Left) bookstores. The larger question with this, as with all of Michael Moore�s books and film "documentaries," is whether they should be listed as Nonfiction or as fiction.

Moore faces what Karl Marx called internal contradictions. If the nation were as Leftist as he claims, his book would be nothing more than a simpleton repetition of common beliefs......

But Moore knows that his fellow Americans elected Republicans to run the Senate, House and White House and are likely to do so again in 2004. The aim of his latest propaganda polemic is to rationalize and then reverse this, to achieve "regime change" in the United States.

Americans vote Republican, contrary to their own self-interest, writes Moore, because wealthy capitalist oil men have hypnotized them with an illegitimate war in Iraq, fear of terrorists, and a few crumbs from a tax cut (given mostly to the wealthy) that feeds the American Horatio Alger myth that we all can succeed.

"Horatio Alger Must Die," writes Moore. Americans should stop trying to become rich. Instead they should desert the War on Terror and enlist in the Class War. Our best chance for a halfway pleasant life, he argues, is to tax all wealth away from the rich and redistribute it to ourselves in the form of welfare, government healthcare and other benefits.

"You are never going to be rich" like Horatio Alger, writes Moore. "The chance of that happening is about one in a million." (This means that in our nation of 293 million people, we have only 293 millionaires.�when in fact we have literally millions of citizens with a net worth in excess of a million dollars � and would have millions more if government greed and excessive taxation could be ended�but is it fair to apply logic to an utterly irrational hyper-Leftist ideologue like Moore?)

The problem with this pudgy messenger born 49 years ago into a working class family in Flint, Michigan, is that Michael Moore IS that one in a million who, in the jargon of Leftspeak, "won life�s lottery."......

But Michael Moore is very secretive about his own private life and how many dollars he makes. The amount of his income might be embarrassing to this foe of capitalism. Somebody might ask how this self-proclaimed champion of the proletariat justifies keeping, after taxes, millions and millions of dollars for himself instead of giving it all to the poor. Or some fellow socialist might ask why Moore takes this tax cut at all instead of telling the big government he loves so much to keep the money, government being so much better at spending our money than we are.

"Michael Moore would never withstand the scrutiny he lays on other people," says his former manager Douglas Urbanski. "You would think that he�s the ultimate common man. But he�s money-obsessed."...."



, yeah, good ole' Michael Moore, continuing to make that "buck" while spreading the spewage he does....the youths of the world are eagerly sopping it up......and paying that "buck".....Capitalism at its best...thank you MM.




regards
seekerof

[Edited on 24-12-2003 by Seekerof]



posted on Dec, 24 2003 @ 03:59 PM
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did anyone else watch MAD tv on saturday and the skit about michael moore



posted on Dec, 24 2003 @ 04:02 PM
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Yeah, I also saw this posted sometime after the show:






regards
seekerof

[Edited on 24-12-2003 by Seekerof]



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 02:52 PM
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.....isn't Micheal Moore the one who directed that documentary "Bowling for Columnbine"? If so, I enjoyed that flick and wouldn't mind watching it again.....and why would he be a fallower of Karl Marx? Communist?



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 02:55 PM
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Refuse to read or watch his works...not worth my time.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 03:06 PM
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The point is not that his movie was not factual. It was factual.

The point is that is was hand picked to be disterbingly deceptive.

It misrepresents the truth to support his point of view. He at one point wanted to run for head of the NRA against Heston. He should have if we wanted to make a real difference instead of the people out there serving to make a difference, he chose to bitch to try to make a difference.

Just one instance. The bank scene. While not factually inaccurate. It makes the impression that it is a quick 2 to 3 minute ordeal with little cost (although it was a 1000- to 5000 dollar purchase of a CD).

Also did not show the FBI backgroud check with photo ID.

The minimum of 30 mins in the bank itself to provide ample video coverage.

etc.

It is propaganda. It is slickly done and loosely factual.

Those lawyers could not technically call him on anything. Editing is not a crime, but it is misleading.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 03:19 PM
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Hmmm...

How come this got sent to the trash bin ??

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think it had a reply from medic in it...



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 03:39 PM
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You read and hear propaganda all the time. Everytime you read a magazine add, or a comercial, or a billboard. It is all propaganda, and whenever some of it is toward educating the population, it gets negative attention from some people.

I thought the movie "Bowling for Columbine" was very good.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:08 PM
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Yeah Yoda? What if it did have a reply from me in it? I'm alot more qualified to talk about soldiers over here in Iraq then anyone else. People just don't like hearing that for the most part soldiers are "for" being here. Regardless of what micheal moore thinks, or puts up on his website. The guy is decidedly anit-american to a par. And no I'm not bias and no i don't call everyone "anti-american" but here you have a guy who regularly busts on the constitution. You figure it out.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:50 PM
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Howdy medic...

All I was asking is what happened to the post ( because it is gone now )...

I agree...you have a lot more info to offer, the only reason I questioned it was that, the original post is gone, ( I'm pretty sure the original post was from Garon, and your post pretty much shut him up )...

And I also wanted to have your voice heard in this thread...

And medic...I'm not anti American, I'm PRO AMERICAN...I will never put you guy's/gals down over there...

Micheal Moore...is a money grubbing whore, whatever it takes to make a buck (it) will do...

Dude...I didn't mean to offend you or any one...



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 11:50 PM
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Micheal Moore is not trying to educate anyone.

Here is the system some poeple, namely Moore, have adopted

1) Show people misguilded information to get them on your side or make them feel bad about the "victims"

2) Make the opposition look demonic, or at the least very bad

3) Fill them with Statistics that are out of context.

4) Send them on their way to promote bull #

If he was interested in education, he would have shown a less edited version.

But the bank scene alone was 90 mins of film. He can't make a point without making a 90 min process look like a 90 sec. one.



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 12:02 AM
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Hey yoda, i didn't mean to come on so assertive in the last post, but certian people don't care for me too much here, and i wasn't sure about you. I apologize for coming on aggressive, forgive me. Some people here don't like my beliefs or opinions and they go out of they're way to attack me. Take no offense to this. Once agian, I apologize. I also am kinda curious as to why that thread was trashed. Also Krazy jethro! Good post bro. You hit the nail on the head.



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 01:42 AM
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Medic...




Hey yoda, i didn't mean to come on so assertive in the last post, but certian people don't care for me too much here, and i wasn't sure about you. I apologize for coming on aggressive, forgive me.


Dude, don't worry about me, I�m not in Baghdad...

You don't need to apologize to me ( I'm just a low life ), you folks are the heroes in my book...

I understand how you feel, the kids here, don't know what is going on, they just play their ( arm chair General ) PS2 games...

Your beliefs are my beliefs, Saddam needed to be eradicated, no more no less...

And I too am curious as to why the original thread was sent to the trash bin...

Now my time to bash
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You kid�s here...what makes you think you have all the knowledge, of the military????

These folks are fighting and dieing for you...

If you don't like this situation then leave the US and never come back...

GO...GO...GO somewhere else... I don't want you here...



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