What do you beleive happens when you die?

Im sure there is gonna come that time when we will all know for sure what comes after death, may we all know the Lord when that time comes. Amen.

What if we're just some kind of science experiment done by Aliens? When we die, part of the experiment has failed..

Iv thought that too,
Alot of people believe that we were created by aliens to make some unknown ends meet.
Slaves, Experiment, A way to make hybrids increasing thier own chance of survial?
Im not sure.
Deep

Well, if you want to hear the truth, then .......so be it!

Firstly,Death is the result of sin.....
Discussion of the Fall into Sin
QUOTE//The first sin is born in sensuality,
with the striving for pleasant feelings,
for physical comfort; in the heart,
with the desire for pleasure without discernment; and in the mind,
with the fantasy of arrogant,
varied knowledge.
Thus, it penetrates all the powers of human nature.

The disrupting of human nature also includes the fact that sin turned or tore the soul from the spirit,
and the soul,
as a result,
began to be attracted to the body, to the flesh, and to depend on it.
The body, losing its former lofty power of the soul and itself a creation from nothingness,
began to have attraction to sensuality,
to emptiness,
to death.

Therefore the result of sin is illness, destruction, and death.

The mind of man was darkened, the will weakened, the feeling distorted, conflicts arose, and the human soul lost purposeful striving towards God.

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The purpose of Jesus Christ's coming to earth was to reconcile mankind to God.
In order to do this,
God,
in the person of Jesus Christ,
had to become fully human.
He had to experience all the pain, temptations and sufferings that all human beings face.
Finally,
having preached,
taught,
healed and performed many miracles,
He had to experience the last pain that all people must undergo: death.

Thus, He allowed Himself to be crucified.
As a human being,
He died; but, being God,
He rose from the dead,
proving that all who believe and follow Him will do likewise.
This is why Jesus Christ is called "Savior," for He saves us from death.
being the RESULT of sin....


In the Holy Scripture conscience is also called "heart." In the Sermon on the mount the Lord Jesus Christ compared conscience to the "eyes" by which a person can evaluate his moral condition (Matt. 6:22).
The Lord also compared conscience to a "rival" with whom a person must come to terms before he presents himself at God's Judgment (Matt. 5:25).
The word "rival" stresses the main attribute of conscience: to oppose our evil desires and intentions

The Apostle Paul in his epistle to the Romans explains in some detail how moral law works in man.
The Apostle reproaches those who know the written Law of God but willfully violate it.
He contrasts them with the pagans who ""not having a written Law, naturally observe the prescriptions of the Law.
By this they show that the process of the Law is written in their hearts which is witnessed by their conscience and thoughts, which either punish or justify one another" (Rom. 1:14-15).
According to St. Paul,
on the forthcoming Judgment Day God will judge men not only according to their faith,
but also according to their conscience.
Thus even the pagans may be saved if their conscience will witness to God their righteous life.

The Lord thus describes this event:

"Do not marvel at this: for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice [of the Son of God] and come forth; those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation" (John 5:29).



When the Sadducees expressed doubt as to the possibility of physical resurrection,
the Lord reproached them,

saying: "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God" (Mt. 22:29).

The Apostle Paul expressed the importance of faith in the resurrection in these words: "If there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen.
And if Christ is not risen,
then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty �
For if the dead do not rise,
then Christ is not risen.
And if Christ is not risen,
your faith is futile; you are still in your sins!
Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. I
f in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.
But now Christ is risen from the dead,
and has become the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep.(Old Testament prophets and people)
For since by man came death, (first man.Adam death as the result of sin)
by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die,
even so in Christ all shall be made alive" (1 Cor. 15:13-22).

The Resurrection of the Dead will be general and simultaneous for both the righteous and sinners: "And shall come forth � those who have done good,
to the resurrection of life; and those who have done evil to the resurrection of condemnation" (John 5:29; Acts. 24:15).

But the appearance of the resurrected righteous will differ substantially from that of the resurrected sinners: "Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father" (Mt. 13:43),


To strengthen the faith in Christians regarding the forthcoming transfiguration of bodies,
St. Paul refers to a generally known fact: "Someone may doubt �
`How are the dead raised up?
And with what body do they come?"
� Foolish one,
what you sow is not made alive unless it dies.
And what you sow,
you do not sow that body that shall be,
but mere grain; perhaps wheat or some other grain. But God gives it a body as He pleases,
and to each seed its own body" (1 Cor. 15:35-38).

Supporting the same idea, the Fathers of the Church point out the fact that in reality nothing is ever destroyed nor disappears,
rather it is transformed into something with new properties,
and certainly God has power to restore and transform everything that He created.
Turning to nature, they found in it many similarities to resurrection, such as: the germination of plants from a seed,
buried into the earth and decayed; the annual renewal of nature during the Spring; waking from sleep with renewed energies; the initial formation of man from the dust; and other similar phenomena.

Those people who will be living on earth during the Second Coming of the Lord,
according to the teaching of the Apostle Paul,
will undergo instantaneous transformation similar to the one which will occur to those who were dead:

"Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed; in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound,
and the dead will be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
and this mortal must put on immortality" (1 Cor. 15:51-53).

The fact that the present temporary world will be transformed was predicted many centuries before Christ by the Psalmist who said:

"Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You will endure; Yes, all of them will grow old like a garment; Like a cloak You will change them, And they will be changed. But You are the same,
And Your years will have no end" (Ps. 102:25-27).
In other words,
the end of the world will not be its destruction but its total renewal.

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on UNIVERSAL JUDGEMENT.......
Among numerous testimonies of the future Judgment, the most complete description of it we find in the Gospel of St. Matthew, 25:31-46:

"When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him,
then He will sit on the throne of His glory.
All the nations will be gathered before Him,
and He will separate them one from another,
as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats.
And He will set the sheep on His right hand,
but the goats on the left �" See also: John 5:22-29, Mt. 16:27, 7:21-23, 11:22-24, 12:35-42, 13:37-43, 19:29-30, 25:31-46, Acts. 17:31, Jude 14-15, 2 Cor. 5:10, Rom. 2:5-7, 14:10, 1 Cor. 4:5, Eph. 6:8, Col. 3:24-25, 2 Thes. 1:6-10, 2 Tim. 4:1, Rev. 20:11-15).

Through this pattern in Matthew one can learn about some particulars of the Last Judgment,
namely,
that it will be universal,
extending to all peoples � both living and dead, of both good and evil � and will extend to fallen angels as well, as inferred by other scriptural indications.

This Judgment will be solemn and open,
as the Judge will appear before the face of the whole world in His Divine glory,
surrounded by innumerable Angels.
It will be stern and fearful, being accomplished in the entirety of God's justice,
and it will be "the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God" (Rom. 2:5).
It will be final and decisive, determining for eternity the fate of each individual.
Its results will be perpetual retribution � either blessedness and bliss for the righteous, or rejection and torment for the condemned sinners.

Portraying in the brightest and most joyful details the eternal life of the righteous following the Universal Judgment,
the Word of God speaks just as emphatically and assuredly about
the eternal torment of sinners:

"Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels,"

will say the Lord on the day of Judgment. "And these will go away into everlasting punishment,
but the righteous into eternal life" (Mt. 25:41-46).

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I believe that our physical bodies are recycled by nature. Then our physical energies are returned to the universe and used however they are needed. Our spirit, once released from our physical body, rejoins the one Spirit, which we all share. There is no individual awareness of being a spirit, because we are completely absorbed. It is nothing to be afraid of. This could be why people who accept death willingly appear to be at peace, and why the light that people see in NDE's, is explained as enveloping and inviting.

I often explain it by comparing it to an infinite body of water. The infinite body of water represents the infinite Spirit. If our individual spirits contained in our physical bodies are drops of water in droppers, then when those drops are released from their droppers back into the infinite water, they become that infinite pool. They do not remain separate drops. If you wanted to go back and find a particular drop within that infinite pool of water, it would be impossible. I think that it's the same with our spirit.

[Edited on 19-12-2003 by jezebel]

Originally posted by Satyr
Life is just another form of energy. Energy never dies, it just transforms. Death could very well be the biggest adventure of your life. I don't claim to know where that energy will go, or what it transforms into. One thing I am pretty sure of, you won't retain your consciousness. This whole idea of seeing, or being returned to dead loved ones in heaven rivals that of an imaginative childhood fairy tale.

One question ... Does Energy have a Conscience?

Well in respect for all,

The only true way for us to know" life after to death" is to come back from death.

Helen, Do you ever answer a question without refering to the Bible?

I dont think we know what happens until we die.

Deep

I actually don't really care what happens after we die, IF, we atleast know that we were alive at one point, and we can remember what we did in that life. If that isn't the case, what's the point in living.

/contemplates suicide

Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Well in respect for all,

The only true way for us to know" life after to death" is to come back from death.

Helen, Do you ever answer a question without refering to the Bible?

I dont think we know what happens until we die.

Deep

Hi zero..
Yes I do!
See!


here is wisdom...
"Search the Scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life" (John 5:39)
Im sorry.....

helen....

Zodiac...lol
Helen.....

Im not really scared to Die, myself.

I would want to know what happens to myself when I do die though.

When I was young ( 7 ) , I had gone swimming with my father, he left me in a hottub with some other women, and told me not to go down further than the 2 step.

Me being me, never listend and ventured down, and the next thing you know, Im down and under the water, It was odd, but I could see a white light in front of me, and I swam towards it.

I was swimming at it, then an arm grabbed me and pulled me out of the water.

I do believe that thier is something after death, Im not sure what though.

Deep

Well, from all this light talk... i'd expect you go to some wonderful Flashlight land. or maybe a Laser light show.

I was 7, and thats all I remember, just a bright light and me swimming towards it.
Deep

Originally posted by Zodiac
Well, from all this light talk... i'd expect you go to some wonderful Flashlight land. or maybe a Laser light show.

I hope it's like a Pink Floyd concert!

When I die I want my body cremated, mixed in with cherry jello, and served for lunch to the little kids at my old school. I better befriend someone in the food service...

I want to be frozen, for future hopes that I can be reanimated.

Well since I do believe in life after death...Here is what I believe in....

A description of the first 40 days after death.

But man was created for immortality,
and by His resurrection Christ opened the gates of the Heavenly Kingdom,
of eternal blessedness for those who have believed in Him and have lived righteously.
Our earthly life is a preparation for the future life, and this preparation ends with our death.

"It is appointed unto man once to die, but after this the judgment" (Heb 9:27).

Then a man leaves all his earthly cares; the body disintegrates,
in order to rise anew at the General Resurrection.
Often this spiritual vision begins in the dying even before death, and while still seeing those around them and even speaking with them, they see what others do not see. [1]

But when it leaves the body,
the soul finds itself among other spirits, good and bad. Usually it inclines toward those which are more akin to it in spirit,
and if while in the body it was under the influence of certain ones,
it will remain in dependence upon them when it leaves the body, however unpleasant they may turn out to be upon encountering them. [2]

I will not post the lot....here is the link....It can't hurt to read .....

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helen....

What happens when we die? To give a proper agnostic answer...I don't know and neither do you!

Every religion has its own version of life after death, but those are just speculations, vague interpretations.

The only thing we can turn to here and now, to get a glimpse of life after death are ghosts. There have been numerous documented and researched cases of ghosts, and I believe that they are indeed real.

From what I've read about them, they seem to be in a kind of dream-like state, they don't realise that they are dead, they do absurd things like haunt a house or talk nonsense, but they simply do not realise the reality of it.
Just like a dream, no matter what you do in dream it makes sense while you're dreaming and it seems real, but when you wake up you realise that it doesnt make that much sense.

Maybe we have to realise that there is life after death before we die, in order to really cross on the other side. If we do not believe in afterlife, we might get stuck in between.

I like the fact that we don't know what awaits us on the other side, I like surprises. Maybe it is a journey, just like this one here on earth.

I think for me to be secure about some kind of Life after Death.. I HAVE to see a ghost, if not, there'll always be questions in my mind. but if I see a Ghost, something will be answered.. that'll atleast make me aware that there is something after you die.

my beliefs came about 3 years ago, in seventh grade:

every soul has a certain number of times it can be reincarnated. each time before the last, you are in a state of unconciousness and it is fate that decides what you do. but on your last reincarnation, you are completely concious of what you're doing, fate plays no role in the scheme of things. when you die in your last life, you remain in a state between dementions, able to interfere with them all in very small, small ways (which is where "ghosts" come in), or there is simply nothing after death, you cease to exist.

i also believe that there are a few spirits that are so important to the earth that they continue being reincarnated. they were created with something extra, something special. Now, who created them, well, that's something none of us will ever answer. i'd like to think aliens, because i've spent my whole live un-validating the existance of "a big spirit" that i'd be pretty #ed if it was anything like that. but, i doubt we'll ever know for sure. if that creator is going to hide from us when we're alive, what'll stop him from hiding from us when we die?

[Edited on 19-12-2003 by effigyrelease]

[Edited on 19-12-2003 by effigyrelease]

what do clones have to say than?

look if we had clones, and they died, what would they see a light?

Originally posted by CyberGhost
what do clones have to say than?

look if we had clones, and they died, what would they see a light?

Well since we have not had any human clones made what I am about to say is an educated guess at best but anyways here goes.

Identical twins have the same DNA but there are differences even in them such as fingerprints, voice, mentality, etc... My clone would have my same DNA but I doubt that he would be an exact copy. I bet that a clone that dies has the same chance at any afterlife that the rest of us have a shot at.

Just my .02