(NLP) - Advanced Communication/Flirting Techniques (Seduction)

Utilizing some of the new tools on ATS, I figured for those with good bandwidth I would direct your attention to some NLP techniques you can see for yourself and maybe apply in your own life.. especially if you're afraid of sexually attractive people from the opposite (or same?) sex..

Not only are these techniques good to learn for general interactions with people of the same and opposite sex for dating, but they are also useful if you are a counselor, psychologist, therapist of any kind, or a salesmen.
So without further blabbing I will present the video...
Its a bit lengthy, but I'm sure if you're into learning it will intrigue you, it gets more and more in-depth as it goes along.

Google Video Link

Lemme know what you thought/think of it.

Sweet I'm finna get more tang than an astronaut

Originally posted by Lysergic
Sweet I'm finna get more tang than an astronaut

Ross Jeffries comes off like an asshole in some of his books.. but when you see him actually do some of the things he writes about, you have a greater respect for his approach...

its good to keep an open mind and think of how you could apply this in your own life, to benefit the people around you, and to get the most out of your personal relationships with people.. remembering its a two way street.. don't just squeeze people dry... Derren Brown demonstrates in his videos how you can use NLP against people and totally confuse their idea of what is right and what is real. So I would recommend you look at how you may have utilized some of these talents/tools without knowing it in your past.....

I know of these techniques, but I actually find them a little bit inherently dishonest, because when you do this you are essentially making use of memories a woman has of other times and places, and of OTHER MEN who made her feel the pangs of attraction and related emotions.

Like, I don't know if you ever met a guy, and there was just SOMETHING about his body, or the way he moved, or the way he stood tall and looked into your eyes... or the way he danced.... or the way he made you laugh and play and get excited.... MMMM YEAH that's right! [slowly touching her shoulder] and, NOW WITH ME, you can FEEL THAT AGAIN... ;-)

Well, why not take it a logical step further? Instead of reminding her of OTHER MEN that really turned her on, and using neural conditioning to "bridge" those emotions and sensations over to yourself.... why not learn to actually BE THAT KIND OF GUY THAT REALLY TURNS WOMEN ON?

Learn to BE that guy who is the good dancer, or the athlete, or who has that slow, relaxed, graceful way of moving and making eye contact.... or the guy who knows how to show off and crack jokes in front of everyone... (the "Stiflers" from the American Pie series anyone?)

Basically, learn how NATURAL ATTRACTION and sexual communication work.

I learned the neuro-hypnosis stuff a long time ago, but ever since I started down the path of becoming a natural, I find I never need to use it....

I'm not sure if you correctly understand its applications... sure Ross Jeffries approach is kind of limited.. but you're dismissing NLP as something stupid, which makes me wonder if you actually have much knowledge of it or not.

Yes I have knowledge of it - a LOT of knowledge actually - and no I'm not dismissing it as "stupid". It DOES work, and it DOES have a LOT of positive applications. But as a methodology of flirtation and seduction, it is incomplete.

Like, when RJ was first getting started, he focused almost exclusively on the neuro-hypnotic languaging - so what you ended up with was this whole army of geeks, nerds and losers with NO game, NO understanding of "confidence", effective body language, sexual communication etc, going out and trying to hypnotize women into having sex........ yeah.

To his credit though, over the years he has refined his material a LOT, and
his program is now a lot more complete and effective.

Like if you watch the video again with the volume off, you'll notice that he:

- leads and "shows off" for her in front of a crowd of people
- stands tall over her in a cocky/dominant but RELAXED, non-threatening way
- smiles and makes direct eye contact with her (but does NOT stare or overdo it)
- gestures to her and to himself with his hands
- gives her reassuring touches (but does NOT overdo it or smother her)

Well, guess what? As it turns out, he could be saying "I like to eat gumballs for breakfast" and she would STILL start to feel a NATURAL ATTRACTION to him - because he's getting those all-important PILLARS OF EFFECTIVE BODY LANGUAGE AND SOCIAL INTERACTION right!

The NLP stuff he is saying to her is just icing on the cake and enhances the other things he is doing.

I know this for a fact as I have tested this many, many many times.... when you go out there and start using that "sexy" body language and making eye contact with different women, they will IMMEDIATELY polarize themselves into two distinct groups:

The group that goes very still, flinches away, walks away etc, like "uh-oh, that guy is creating attraction, but I love my husband/bf, better not encourage him!",

And the group that just MELTS and starts flipping their hair, stroking their necks, gesturing to their breasts or stomach, tapping their thighs, turning around and bending over and lifting their a##, etc...

And from there you know exactly which women NOT to approach, and which ones WANT you to approach.

No manipulation, no hypnosis.... just a bit of knowledge of the NATURAL mechanisms of attraction, and the essence of "being a man".

okay, yes... I do agree with you, based on this one video alone it doesn't look very great... but watching his speed seduction seminars and his turning fear and phobias into charisma or whatever it's called gives a better glance into his techniques because that video is part of a 3-4 day seminar... so there are things that aren't covered in that video that were covered in the previous days leading up to that taping.

but I totally agree with your comments on the nerds and geeks with "no game"

The point isn't manipulating people, the point is having fun and interacting, and doing a better job than most schmoes and as you said.. just being a man..
well I think we should look at exactly what he is doing.. he's taking guys who are wanting to manipulate women.. and he's manipulating them into not being jerks.. lol

yes that's one thing NLP is excellent for, rapidly dealing with fears, insecurities and phobias... and RJ apparently is one of the best trainers for that....

and yeah you got it exactly... be a man, get out there and flirt and have fun with it, learn to enjoy and love the way women communicate... and of course, have lots of SEX!!! ;-)

Very interesting, it is much more pragmatic than I expected. I really enjoyed it!

One part confused me. He said that nice people suck in energy through their heart chakra, always seeking approval this is what happens... I know he didn't have time to explain himself and he left it alone to move on, but how does he mean? A showoff is doing the same thing but maybe not being nice. Also, being nice is part of what makes that person who they are!

Is he suggesting that a person can't be balanced if they are overly nice to others?

Thanks for the information and the clip Pure Energy!

Originally posted by Novise
Very interesting, it is much more pragmatic than I expected. I really enjoyed it!

One part confused me. He said that nice people suck in energy through their heart chakra, always seeking approval this is what happens... I know he didn't have time to explain himself and he left it alone to move on, but how does he mean? A showoff is doing the same thing but maybe not being nice. Also, being nice is part of what makes that person who they are!

Is he suggesting that a person can't be balanced if they are overly nice to others?

Thanks for the information and the clip Pure Energy!

exactly novise...

A show off is feeding their own feelings when they are showing off, they're oozing "energy" ...

Let me put it this way

if someone is overly nice to you, you think they WANT something from you (or they're up to something)..

if someone is overly mean with you, you think they have some kind need...
(or they're ignorant of some "fact" / or "facts")
sure thats not how it always is..

He was very correct when he said that nice people suck energy in
.... people only do what they want back.... or what they are lacking...
so mean people are mean to others because they cannot be objective enough to do it to themselves...
and nice people (more often than not) are oober nice to others because they have some issues in their past, which cause them to require a fix that they cannot supply themselves so they help others and are nice to others in hopes someone might "help" them...
I know this is all very general, and can be applied to many situations not under this context, but human psychology is a very interesting thing.