"If you could ask a time traveler a question what would you ask?"

That is a great idea ATSguy.

I am going to use copper pipe to hold on to and aligator clips on the wires.

That is probably why the government is so mad at these people for selling a battery and a wire for $200, calling them shiesters and quacks.

They also wanted to rob us of thousands of dollary, by us buying drugs that don't cure the problem. What a scam that is. Who are the crooks, again?

Hi, Blueangel7, win 52, Crakeur, and ATSGUY!!

First, Blueangel7. What's goin' on? Hi!

I'm sorry for the delay in responding. TD is banned, and I've been sort of scattered schedule-wise.

Blue, you asked,

1) I would want to know if there was a rapture of the church and when it was.

2) Also, I would want to know when Jesus returned to earth

3) and who is the Antichrist.

4) Also, other questions would be Who Killed Kennedy

5) Where is Atlantis and describe it?

6) Who built the pyramids?

7) Why wasn't Hitler stopped

8) and why wasn't the 9-11 stopped?

9) Oh, and about those lottery numbers? (wink)!

I’ll say, I think I may have understood your questions differently than TD may have, but his responses are below:

TD's RESPONSE:

1) RAPTURE: If you want to call the revelations and freeing of every being on this planet the rapture, then you will see this within the next twenty-four or so months. It can actually happen any day.

2) JESUS: Jesus will be present at the concert event that is to take place within the next twenty-four months, along with the many other “avatars” (which I translate as enlightened, or consciously connected beings from our history).

3) ANTICHRIST: The antichrist, in TD’s mind, is more of a race of beings, or a negative collective of energy, or beings.

4) KENNEDY: The secret government (also known by many other names, “dark cabal,” “controllers,” “faceless effers,” etc.) killed Kennedy (and I’ll add many other enlightened, positive beings). TD is not specific on “who” was involved, but does say that there is a list of names, and that list will be run down in our near future, and all of those folks made to answer for their crimes.

5) ATLANTIS: TD has a hunch that Atlantis is in the Atlantic Ocean (he mentions entrances to inner earth as being near Puerto Rico, I think…He forgot to describe Atlantis.)

6) PYRAMIDS: TD believes that time travelers and ETs built the pyramids. (Win52 did. LOL Kidding…Actually, it’s very interesting about what win 52 said about believing he may have existed at the time of the Egyptians, because this is definitely a hazy recollection of TD’s also).

7) HITLER: TD has asked the same question to himself about Hiroshima. He believes that certain events had to come to pass, but he also believes that many, or most of the Holocaust victims were actually saved.

8) 9-11: The answer to #7 should answer this question.

9) LOTTERY: Everyone has to earn their lotto numbers. Of course, he’s added before that you won’t want or need lotto numbers when these things come to pass. You will be living the life of a lottery winner times a million.

I don't know if that was what you were looking for, but there you go. Thanks very much for your questions!!! Feel free to post more if you have any.

Hi, win 52!! Your comments on the pyramids - very interesting. Some of us may have existed in that time, but scientists say that 2,000 years ago there were only about 140 million people in the world (don't know how accurate that is). There are still over six billion people who would not have been alive during that time, if these numbers are correct.

We didn't even reach one billion people until the 1800's, and in less than two-hundred years the planet's population has grown by six times. Where did all of these souls come from? I say, "out there."

There are billions of people on this planet that more than likely have past physical (or other) existences from other planets and other universes. There were just too few human beings occupying this planet in our history to accommodate our current - and growing - numbers.

If you think about it, there are six and a half billion souls on this planet at present. Two hundred years ago there were only several hundred million. It's crazy.

I saw the photo of the object you're talking about. Very interesting theory about the parasites. If the electric stuff works, I say go for it. Pretty soon, though, we will see a better technology for this supplied to us.

Hi, Crakeur!! I passed your question on to TD. I just took a peek at the NESARA site. I like their list of demands. ahah Would like to see all of that come to pass. I'll let you know what TD says.

Personally, there is no political action that would effect these sorts of changes. The folks we're dealing with don't respond to political pressure, threat of criminal prosecution, or to the will of their constituents. There is a larger picture here that simple political pressure doesn't take into account, and which requires a different approach; enter TD, win 52, Benjamin Fulford, and others. hahah

I've been following some of the Ben Fulford stuff with interest. Ben is an author of over a dozen books about the Illuminati families, and has apparently attracted the attention and trust of different Asian secret societies, who plan to challenge these secret organizations.

Here is a short article by Ben on the history of the Illuminati -- LINK.

Here is an article on what is occurring now with these Asian secret societies and Ben -- LINK.

Here is a LINK to Ben's website.

Also, here is an AUDIO INTERVIEW Jeff Rense gives with Ben. Ben's anger is apparent, and his approach is very direct and fearless.

In the audio interview, Ben is making threats against the Rockefellers, Rothchild's, Dick Cheney, and others, that he says these Asian groups are fully prepared to back up.

There seems to be a growing pressure on these elite power groups coming from many sectors (one also has to wonder if there is pressure from other groups "out there". LyranStarseed, from Godlikeproductions, TD, and others seem to represent this particular contingent...).

Jeff Rense is planning on doing a Reverse Speech study of the audio interview with Ben Fulford to see what he can get. That ought to be interesting.

When TD responds, in any event, I'll post it here. I hope you're having a good week. Mine is killing me, and it's just started.

Hey, ATSGUY!! I'm not on a health regimen, but I takes my herbs and vitamins. Occasionally I'll drink some green tea...I try to avoid a lot of fried foods, but whaddya gonna do? ahaah

I like the image of win grabbing onto an electrically charged pipe. hehe Like that static electricity ball at Spencer's Gifts that makes your hair stand up when you touch it...

I just saw this new crop circle arrangement that they're suggesting is a representation of "OM", the universal sound/symbol indicating the creator. Here is a LINK to that latest crop circle.

Here is a LINK to the latest crop circles PAGE of cropcircleconnector.com. These crop circles are getting out of control. They have to be way-pointers...

I want to end on a terrific note. In a post dated Monday, July 9, 2007, a poster at Book of Thoth writes:

I too have visions of contact. In my vision, the being descends from a vehicle towards me - it is smiling and full of joy. It is like a home coming and it makes me cry.

It releases within me all the hope that the things that have been spoken about in this thread will come to pass, that humanity will emerge from this dark reality into a new reality based on compassion, love and a desire to evolve as the Creator always intended.

With love and respect to you all

[edit on 10-7-2007 by OnTheDeck]

Hi, Crakeur!!

It wasn't two minutes ago that I fired off the email and I just get a response.

Here are the NESARA points and TD's responses (bolded):

It sounds good and all, but I see things a little different:

NESARA initiates PEACE IMMEDIATELY and
1. Restores Constitutional Law in America as of NESARA's public announcement. Initializes Intergalactic laws is more like it

2. Removes US administration officials and all members of the US Congress from their positions due to their continuous unconstitutional actions. Bush, Cheney, Cabinet members, and all members of Congress are immediately removed from office by NESARA's public announcement; specific law enforcement personnel shall physically remove Bush government officials from their offices.

These removals allow a fresh start at the national level. Using the Constitutional Line of Succession, NESARA installs Constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates until new federal elections can take place within six months after NESARA's announcement. in 3 days the entire structure changes, USA patriots cannot continue seperation, thats all that would do, keep the USA seperated, dont think so

3. Because NESARA abolishes unconstitutional states of emergency, NESARA's public announcement declares "peace". US military in Iraq and Afghanistan are immediately recalled to the USA. universal forces with the mass landing seizes all war activity world wide

4. As partial remedy for 90 years of government and banking fraud, NESARA requires zeroing out of credit card balances and bank debt relief be given to Americans. money system will be completely changed or removed based on credit for community contribution, which will get you more accessories beyond the provided necessity's

5. Initiates the US Treasury Bank System with new U.S. Treasury currency backed by gold. The Federal Reserve is abolished; Federal Reserve facilities and most personnel are absorbed into the US Treasury Bank System. NO Bank system, NO treasury, love is treasured, money is a control tool, realize that.

6. Abolishes Income Taxes in US and creates a national sales tax on new, non-essential items as revenue for government. Essential items such as food and medicine, and used items, are exempt from the sales tax. TAX? you cant see it, but I am laughing hysterical

You can take action to get NESARA announced and implemented See the Action Plan!

ACT NOW! HELP US GET NESARA ANNOUNCED IMMEDIATELY!

this plan sounds OK, but it still keeps the USA seperated, there will be a global community, not SEPERATED countries.

I'm with TD on this one. Debt system must go - and debts cleared. No taxes. Abolish central form of government/rule. True independence and freedom for every being on this planet. Health care, shelter, and every necessity provided for every being on this planet - this is not a takeover, or a replacement of one form of rule for another; and neither is it a hand out.

We have what we need, but it is being kept from the majority of us. This, and all of the above will change.

There is no negotiation. This is going down one way - and that is a way that represents the six and a half billion beings on this planet. Who benefits? Cui malo? Every independent being on this planet. No longer a select few.

No one wants a new ruler. Everyone (but the controllers) wants freedom, and an end to wars. We're almost there...

Just found more possible support for TD's concert event. A member of another paranormal message board, who calls herself Earth Daughter, just made the following post,

Strange.

I had a dream a few weeks ago that first contact was made in a concert format.

There were no famous people from history there, but there was alot of cool technology and many UFO's flying overhead.

There were many speakers at the event, as well as the joy and love vibes in abundance.

SOURCE

No mention of historical personages, but close enough. ahah

NESARA is a hoax and sheldon nidle, whom you said has a lot of points that are very similar to TD's, has been nailed as using the NESARA scam to swindle unsuspecting fools out of their money. enjoy the dvd.

Crakeur, you said,

NESARA is a hoax and sheldon nidle, whom you said has a lot of points that are very similar to TD's, has been nailed as using the NESARA scam to swindle unsuspecting fools out of their money.

That's too bad if it's true. Too many people are using this subject to take advantage of people.

I just recently came across the Sheldon Nidle site, www.paoweb.com, in my travels...

I like the points that NESARA ostensibly sets out to accomplish, but any efforts along these lines, again, would be in vain.

I think TD was contrasting what he sees as coming to pass with NESARA's bullet points...Either way, hoax or not, it looks like the NESARA stuff still won't come to pass as they've outlined it.

I'll let you know how the DVD is though..."The White zone is for loading and unloading only..."



[edit on 11-7-2007 by OnTheDeck]

Crakeur, TD asked me to ask you if you had a link(s) with evidence that NESARA and Sheldon Nidle are hoaxes and scam artists...

I think it's a fair request and should be easy to produce. I haven't found anything indicating either of these groups have been proven frauds...

Here's one I've never checked out.
www.scambusters.org...

Quatloos for all your scam busting needs on Nesara
www.quatloos.com...

and Sheldon Nidle can be found here:
www.quatloos.com... scroll down, he's mentioned as a promoter of this nonsense.
in case you weren't sure how Nidle was involved in promoting a hoax like Nesara, you can purchase

Humanity’s Future: Galactic Contact and N.E.S.A.R.A. (2-hr DVD or Video Tape)

from his site.

he's a weasel and a scam artist.

Amazing to see how TD found similarities in Nidle's and his own stories. Nidle's are, apparently, fictitious. Doesn't say much for TD's story. Oh, wait, I forgot, it might have happened but it might not. Otherwise...it's an unverifiable story that is sitting in skunk works when perhaps it should be elsewhere.

I find it interesting that Puerto Rico might have entrances to the inner earth. The Fed Reserve is based in Puerto Rico. Who's running it? HMMM...

Hi, Crakeur!!

Not that I even cared, but it doesn't look good for NESARA. I just heard of this organization recently...I liked what they were offering from the site you linked to earlier, but if they're asking for donations you have to be skeptical.

They may have duped Sheldon Nidle and David Icke into contributing to their organization.

Look, these (Sheldon and David) are people like you and me. People can be mislead...It's too bad.

With regard to Sheldon selling books and videos at his website, I can't say I've ever agreed with people having to pay for this information. Especially, if that information is relevant to every being on this planet.

Whitley Strieber has his books for sale on Amazon. I guess some people wanna make a buck off of their experiences. TD does not.

I can't confirm whether or not Sheldon's ET contacts are real or not, but some of what he is sharing definitely has something in common with the future TD sees.

Sheldon's credibility has nothing to do with NESARA; only his gullibility perhaps. If Sheldon has fabricated all of his experiences, then what those experiences have in common with TD's experiences are only coincidental.

A scam artist?! In the ufo field?! ahaha There sure is a mixed crowd in the ufo/paranormal field...

I'm still on board with TD. Nothing for sale here; and he's quite used to people telling him he's crazy as an outhouse rat. But he trudges on...

I posted earlier about Benjamin Fulford, who is the Canadian Expat who was issuing warnings to the Illuminati (White House, Rockefellers, Rothchilds, and others).

Ben has done a couple of interviews with Jeff Rense (Rense.com), in which Ben has issued numerous, very serious threats to these folks.

The Reverse Speech technology (if you want to call it that) is fairly new in the public arena (although, I think Peggy Kane has been using it for years), but it might actually have some merit. That's up to everyone to decide for themselves.

In any event, this Reverse Speech analysis was done on the Ben Fulford interviews/warnings, and what he is saying in reverse really matches with, and supports what he is saying in forward speech.

Here is a LINK to the transcript with the Reverse Speech analysis. It's fascinating stuff. If this is real, then it could be the literal beginning of the end of the Illuminati.

I'll include a bunch of links to Ben Fulford info, including Youtube videos of the reverse speech stuff just done, his info on Asian secret societies and more below.

Rense.com (all of the Ben Fulford stuff can
be found here)

Ben Fulford's website

Chinese Secret Society Challenges Illuminati

Transcript of Rense/Fulford Interview Parts 1, 2, & 3

Youtube video of Reverse Speech analysis

Fulford brief history of the Illuminati article

Youtube video Reverse Speech of the News July 2007

Are we nearing the end of the evil empire...?

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
Sheldon's credibility has nothing to do with NESARA; only his gullibility perhaps. If Sheldon has fabricated all of his experiences, then what those experiences have in common with TD's experiences are only coincidental.

A scam artist?! In the ufo field?! ahaha There sure is a mixed crowd in the ufo/paranormal field...

I'm still on board with TD. Nothing for sale here; and he's quite used to people telling him he's crazy as an outhouse rat. But he trudges on...

Sheldon is selling dvds where he talks about NESARA and the aliens. He talks about the scam in a dvd he is selling. That means he is scamming the buyers as well.


He's a con artist.

I'm leaving the NESARA/Sheldon stuff alone.

I will say, however, that simply promoting NESARA doesn't necessarily mean that Sheldon Nidle is guilty of defrauding people. He may simply have been innocently mislead by this group.

His promotion of NESARA aside, Sheldon may be an individual who has experienced real ET contact. I'll give Sheldon the benefit of the doubt, but it goes without saying that you always take a risk when money is involved.

If people want to take this as a caution, then they can do so. I don't consider promoting a cause as an indication of guilt...

In the grand scheme of things, though, there are more important matters at hand...

I wanted to post a message I received today.

I cannot attest to the credibility of the poster, but felt the message worth sharing. The author of this message said I could post it here:

sent: 12-7-2007 at 05:42 AM
I've been having strange dreams about the disclosure. I feel it upcoming, I see it in my visions.

I've been thinking about the volunteering for time travel. If it's for the good of humanity then I'm all for it. I've always believed these things, not matter how crazy people thought I was. Please have him contact me. I feel I have a bigger purpose than waiting for the day they come for us...

This person appears sincere. This same individual indicates he been seeing things like this his whole life, as well as ghosts/spirits. His close friend also seems to be similarly "sensitive."

Really wonder what's around the corner here...

By the way, I'm not sure if Michael Chertoff, Dick Cheney, or George W. Bush is the grim reaper. I have a feeling they can interlock and transform into a kind of Optimus-Prime grim reaper - actually, Optimus is the good guy; these guys would have to be Megatron...Decepticons!!

Michael Chertoff's indigestion is apparently tantamount to the casting of the I-Ching...

i for one feel that all of the ufos, aliens, time traveling, paranormal spirit stuff is all connected. What was interesting was the account that oberver made about her story with contact.

she said something about casper,wyoming. Well there is a very huge open feild and mountain range, it almost fits the description of what td is talking about. But then again we dont really no where the concert is just the hints of what td is talking about.



en.wikipedia.org...





also with the last post, i have to say it to that guy, i think we have all felt something. Something just in the gut saying there is something better and a pourpose out there.
images.google.com...






[edit on 12-7-2007 by ATSGUY]

Hi, ATSGUY!!

I sent TD some links, and asked him what he thought about Casper, Wyoming. He didn't say he got anything from that, but did say there was a Wyoming Valley in Pennsylvania...

Observe50 said this (below) in the post you mention above. This can be found in her thread entitled, "My life with an alien soul":

On another occasion I was woken and told only three words:
REMEMBER..... CASPER, WYOMING

I know there was a Wyoming but I didn't know there was a Casper so I thought one day if I see a map I will look it up. Wee, in short in four days I opened up a book and when I looked in I was looking at a the map of the state of Wyoming and my finger was right under the word Casper.

I believe this was n January of 97. Since then it seems like I for some reason am not allowed to forget this, something always comes up that I hear or see Casper, Wyoming and I live on the East Coast. I have no clue but I use there words when it is time to be known I will know.

THREAD LINK

The above makes one curious about what was meant. She follows up that statement with the following,

I picked up visual and audio the visual was two militery men in an underground area. One man standing and one man sitting behind a desk. The man sitting seemed very upset and was telling the other man they would have a major disaster on there hands if the volcano went because they would be dealing with a radio active volcanic eruption.

Things settled down after that maybe the frequencies were changed who knows.

THREAD LINK

If these things are related, it means these two military men may be talking about an eruption in Casper. If they're not related, then the mystery continues.

Observe50's contacts informed her, which I think I've referenced in a previous post, that she would "know" when it is time. From her posts in that thread I also gather that she will be needed for something during her lifetime related to these contacts. She mentions healing, but there may be more.

Observe50 says she was born in 1948, which makes her obscenely old - I AM KIDDING! I hope she understands that if she reads this hahaa

What I mean is, she is nearing 60 years of age. I would assume we are at the doorstep of the events she was informed of over the years.

I looked up Casper myself and found a few interesting facts. It's the second largest city in Wyoming.

First, this little guy, a 14" "unknown" male, was found sitting cross-legged in a cave after a couple of gold miners blasted through a solid mountain wall. They have no idea how it got in there, or how old it was, but it was determined to be a male, 65 years of age, and appearing to have suffered a blow to the skull.

The next one gets weirder (I never knew this), leaving his city of birth, Lincoln, Nebraska, Vice President, Dick Cheney and his family move to Casper, Wyoming, where Cheney attends Natrona County High School, and eventually becomes football captain. He later attends the University of Wyoming where he earns both a B.A. and M.A. in political science.

SOURCE 1 and SOURCE 2

My third find, and the absolute kicker, is that Steven Spielberg's 1977 science fiction movie, Close Encounters of the Third Kind was filmed in and around Casper, Wyoming.

Most notably, were the scenes filmed of and around Devil's Tower. These scenes depict our first open contact with an extraterrestrial race, and this film has left an indelible mark with its message of peaceful contact.

These are very interesting coincidences, and they place Casper, Wyoming at a very interesting crossroads; i.e., crossing of paths of the extraterrestrial subject and what could be the antithesis to that, the military-industrial complex...All sharing space in a little town (pop. 50,000) in Montana.

One can only guess if these things have any meaning with regard to Casper, or if, in fact, the two military men in their underground bunker, talking about the eruption have anything to do with Casper...

We should know soon enough...

Hey all !!!!
It seems to me that if there is going to be a mass landing / rescue, then there should be a need for fine tuning before the actual event. I think they might like to have a few people test out their facilities and offer any advice about their plans, food and accommodation from a human perspective.
Therefore I am offering to be an Earth Ambassador. I will volenteer to spend a few weeks on their starcraft and to visit their home worlds, to help them prepare and to see that all is in order for mankind when they board for their journey
I only ask that I be returned safely and that my memory is left in tact and not erased. It would also be preferable that I am not abducted at night, and in fact approached in a non threatening way during the day time when I start my ambassadorship.
(It would also be really cool if I was allowed to bring a cam recorder to document my work so I could post my findings in here on my return.)

hey onthedeck, i was on the ufotimetravel sighting hoping to see any updated radio shows and i saw a video about a possible time tunnel fillmed in CA, it looks amazing and then something that looks like a metal orb or something comes out of the tunnel of lights...is there any more information on this.

ufotimetravel.com...

Thanks so much for the answers! Wow, I didn't know that I would get answers to my questions! Very interesting stuff! I've always been interested in Time Travel, and I've always had glimpses of the future, and dreams of the future that later came true! Sometimes, my visions of the future are so accurate that it scares me a little! Thanks again for the answers!

Hello all.

Just to let you know, I'm still around.

And I, like others here, am ready to get this ball rolling.

Reminds me of a plaque I once saw that said, Lord grant me patience, but I want it right now.

I noticed a few pages back that some of us were having trouble sleeping and some pains in the arms. Yes, me too, however my pain is in the right arm instead of the left, from the shoulder on down but worse from the elbow to the wrist. The pain has become an everyday, all the time thing, but sometimes the pain will fade into a dull, leaden, numbness. And when I wake up in the morning I'm just as tired if not more so than when I went to sleep. I almost feel like I've been working all night.

And then there are the odd bruises and scratches I'm finding that weren't there when I went to sleep. Must be some strange dreams where I'm beating myself up huh. Anyone else experiencing this?

[edit on 14-7-2007 by ShadowEyes]