what if I refuse the NWO???

what if i choose not to have the mark of the beast and what if i choose not to be a slave to the new world order?

they would have a pretty bad reputation and a mutiny on their hands if they started killing off people who refuse them as leader, im sure theyre smart enough to figure that one...... right?

what if i choose not to have the mark of the beast and what if i choose not to be a slave to the new world order?

they would have a pretty bad reputation and a mutiny on their hands if they started killing off people who refuse them as leader, im sure theyre smart enough to figure that one...... right?

Friend, they will not care about you, and in those times, we will see Christians and Anti-NWO people acting in drastic manners as they should. But they will put that against you, they will tell the people that the Christians and the conspirist that refuse to accept their future goal are insane and we will be looked at like one of the suicide bomber muslim extremnist. Anyone who gets in the way of their plan will be either killed or imprisoned, most likely not in a prison, but in a consentration camp.

People that don't believe that are simply naive, we've already seen a small sample of that with Germany. Yet you must realize when it comes to population control, they're goal has been said to bring the population down to atleast 1 billion and in other sources the goal is 500 million. They only killed 6 million in Nazi Germany(not to say that's not a lot, just in comparative meassures).


Now I will tell you my opinion. You don't have to accept it so please don't degrade me for it.

I will not be taking the mark. Whether this is truly the mark or not, I will still not be taking it because it is still a horrible thing. I do believe it will be the mark though. I believe that is NWO is inevitable and will happen no matter what, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't fight against though. I believe the only way to beat this is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour and repent from your sins. Whether in the end you're rapured away, or you are left here in this world, I would rather be a martyr for my lord and my beliefs than a slave to the devil.

God bless

thexsword... there are more then one billion christians on the world that is one big army.

maybe its just me, but i have a gut feeling whenever the nwo decides to poke its hairy face out there will be good people of earth ready to fight and die for freedom of choice.

Originally posted by conspiracymaster
thexsword... there are more then one billion christians on the world that is one big army.

maybe its just me, but i have a gut feeling whenever the nwo decides to poke its hairy face out there will be good people of earth ready to fight and die for freedom of choice.

just because there are more then a billion of us christians in the world doesnt mean that we will all band together and fight. Not in a physical way though, i can almost garentee ( sorry for my bad spelling ) there will be a lot of people praying for the safty of the people the govt. is after.

I actualy imagined the nwo much like a cross between Ancient Rome (Jesus' time) and Nazi Germany. Its pretty scary when you think about it.

well theres my $0.02

Guys you are already slaves to the NWO! Do you work? Do you pay taxes? Live within the system? Have a Bank account?

The NWO is nothing more than more of what we've already got, working to line others pockets while our government uses our taxes to increase their global population control on behalf of the elite, at the expense of billions of innocent lives.

If you are not fighting it already then you're too late. There is nothing coming to take some heroic stance against. No super hero V guy is gonna jump up and save the planet from the evil NWO. This is not holyweird!

The fight back started long ago, where have you all been? We could have used the help. But I wonder if you read the paper and saw those evil ELF guys, or those nasty Anarchist weirdose and believed what you read?
It's pretty ironic so many ppl who claim to want to fight the NWO will hold a negative attitude towards groups that are actually fighting the NWO just because the press, that is used by the 'NWO' to discredit anything that contradicts them, says so...Not pointing fingers at you guys, just wondering...

Originally posted by conspiracymaster
what if i choose not to have the mark of the beast and what if i choose not to be a slave to the new world order?

they would have a pretty bad reputation and a mutiny on their hands if they started killing off people who refuse them as leader, im sure theyre smart enough to figure that one...... right?

Polls indicate my generation soundly rejects an implant. However my son's generation think its acceptable. Likely the NWO will wait another decade before implants become required.

For now though we get the national id card forced upon us. And just like driver's licenses, you will need one to cash checks, get on a plane, etc. I believe the law (already passed) goes into effect in 2008.

What will happen if you choose to fight back will depend on when the implants are implemented. If implants are being used, it will be too late. You wont be able to buy food or pay bills without it. There wont be any cash around at that point (a goal long sought by the bankers). You will simply starve to death.

The ones they catch will be forced into internment camps. From there, they'll be used as slav labor or murdered. Its well known that the NWO wants a much smaller population than current numbers. Do a search on the web for internment camps. There are several around the United States right now, fully manned and operational.

This is what scares me the most. There is a threshold here that once crossed, it will be too late to fight back. Once those implants are accepted its over folks. Personally, I think its already too late. The wheels are in motion, the deck is stacked, the media is quiet, and people are blind.

[edit on 9-1-2007 by admriker444]

Originally posted by ANOK
It's pretty ironic so many ppl who claim to want to fight the NWO will hold a negative attitude towards groups that are actually fighting the NWO just because the press, that is used by the 'NWO' to discredit anything that contradicts them, says so...Not pointing fingers at you guys, just wondering...

Tell me about it

To OP, read 1984 and Brave New World and ask yourself if this is what you want to be living life like in 10-30 years.

You agree with it by being silent. You have a mouth with vocal cords, and fingers to type with- use them.

ANOK, I think the original intent of the thread spoke of the mark of the beast, signifying that we were talking about more than just the "NWO", whether we're going through a new world order currently, there will be another new world order that is spoken of in the Bible.

That's all I mean't. Biblical revelation.

I agree with you that we are and have been going through the NWO, but I personally believe that it will only grow, and blow itself up into THE new world order.

The NWO is already firmly in control. They don't need any marks or implants. That's just fairy tale stuff to make you think you have a choice.
Your thoughts belong to someone that you are incapable of even knowing exists.

Along with the books jaguarmike mentioned, Read "Player Piano" by Kurt Vonnegut.

Welcome to the Monkey House!!!

The NWO is already firmly in control. They don't need any marks or implants. That's just fairy tale stuff to make you think you have a choice.

Whether it is firmly in control or not, which I agree that it is. It just has not completely finished. No one is denying that the NWO is going on now and has been, we're just saying that it has yet to go full circle.

I agree, they don't need implants or marks, but again, don't be naive. Is it not reality that they are planning these implants? And you do have the choice, but the choice will be to either die, or be imprisoned.

Where you were going with this post, I do not know. I'm just saying, I do not believe the NWO is what it wil end up being at the current period of time. Before Hitler killed 6 million Jews, it was a plan in works, like the new NWO is.

Sword is right... And even if the NWO isn't already here, it will sneak up on us like whatever it is that is here. Every generation has what they believe to signs of the end, ours however seem to be very intense and realistic. The end is getting close i'm sure. Resist the devil and do not accept the mark it it comes. If you don't believe me you should probably be reading the Bible instead of this post.

Originally posted by thexsword
Whether it is firmly in control or not, which I agree that it is. It just has not completely finished.

It will never completely finish. I don't think there is an end to some master NWO plan. It's just the nature of capitalism, and those that worship it, to continually create new markets (war) and push the population to consume more (media control). While we waste our time with cheap consumer heaven the elite are raping you every way they can. The elite will continue increasing it's control until it can't go any further, which will be when we're all dead. They eilte are not satan worshipers, they are money/power worshipers. Worshipers of the BEAST imo, if want a religious connection.

But because most people don't see, or won't admit, the evil of capitalism they'll never really free themselves from the chains of worker/consumer slavery. You've all bought the communism lie and automatically think commie whenever capitalism is put in a negative light, and ppl claim the media doesn't control how society thinks and acts...
(capitalism, communism, socialism, all slavery if they come without freedom)

Money is the trap that is slowly closing on you, some will never free themselves. Your labour and your money finances the elite, wars, aggressive cops, the corrupt legal system. Money will be the reason ppl get the chip. Money is what is making you a slave.

Ppl talk about 'fighting' the NWO. Have you thought who you would be fighting with? Your neighbours, cops, military, just ppl like you who have done nothing but been trapped, while the elite hide in their bunkers. It's a nice holyweird dream, to stand up and be a hero and fight against evil. And then what will replace the system you have fought against? Just another bigot with their rifle sight on you?

The fight back started a long time ago, but the press have again tricked the population into believing the resistance is the threat to you. The resistance is only a threat to 'them'.

The only way to stop the increase in control is too refuse to accept it. Stop paying taxes, stop driving a car, stop lining the pockets of the elite, become self sufficient, grow your own food, protest, civil disobedience, educate others. It can be done without violence if ppl would only realise their own strength, there is more of us than them. Just like the elite we need to be patient, work in the dark, work at becoming self reliant.

If you choose to leave the path that you've been taught, don't expect help so don't get caught...Penny Rimbaud

But I guess it's easier to just talk about it, and dream of becoming a hero resistance fighter when the time comes?

Well the time has come and gone.

[edit on 9/1/2007 by ANOK]

Originally posted by conspiracymaster
what if i choose not to have the mark of the beast and what if i choose not to be a slave to the new world order?

they would have a pretty bad reputation and a mutiny on their hands if they started killing off people who refuse them as leader, im sure theyre smart enough to figure that one...... right?

They will fine you then most likely arrest you when you dont pay the fine.

When they introduce id cards in the UK I will refuse to get one and will end up with a fine of £2500 which I will also refuse to pay I can only guess what will happen after that, they will come and try and take my belongings away to pay for the fine, what will they do when they have taken everything and I still refuse? Arrest me?

Originally posted by admriker444

Originally posted by conspiracymaster
what if i choose not to have the mark of the beast and what if i choose not to be a slave to the new world order?

they would have a pretty bad reputation and a mutiny on their hands if they started killing off people who refuse them as leader, im sure theyre smart enough to figure that one...... right?

Polls indicate my generation soundly rejects an implant. However my son's generation think its acceptable. Likely the NWO will wait another decade before implants become required.

For now though we get the national id card forced upon us. And just like driver's licenses, you will need one to cash checks, get on a plane, etc. I believe the law (already passed) goes into effect in 2008.

What will happen if you choose to fight back will depend on when the implants are implemented. If implants are being used, it will be too late. You wont be able to buy food or pay bills without it. There wont be any cash around at that point (a goal long sought by the bankers). You will simply starve to death.

The ones they catch will be forced into internment camps. From there, they'll be used as slav labor or murdered. Its well known that the NWO wants a much smaller population than current numbers. Do a search on the web for internment camps. There are several around the United States right now, fully manned and operational.

This is what scares me the most. There is a threshold here that once crossed, it will be too late to fight back. Once those implants are accepted its over folks. Personally, I think its already too late. The wheels are in motion, the deck is stacked, the media is quiet, and people are blind.

[edit on 9-1-2007 by admriker444]

your telling me one of these days every human on earth will have to accept an implant or be taken away to concentration camps? humans might be gullable, but they are smart enough to fight to keep alive.

if someone comes to you and tells you you "we are gonna give you an implant and if you dont accept were gonna kill you" what would you do?
would you fight back or would you bend over to the nwo? my point exactly.

Which NWO? That's kind of like saying "What if I refuse stuff?"

[edit on 9-1-2007 by Johnmike]

We can stop them by direct confrontation which you call warfare or fighting them. We have something that they do not have, numbers. Through education we stand a chance, however they will keep pushing and pushing for more control so as to prevent larger rebelions. Currently they require no martial law because the public is too doped up with arrogance and ignorance to see they are being toyed with. However, some are realizing it and teaching others, thus they have begun to move towards the police state. They will not use it till need be though. Yes I am talking about the USA, the birthplace of these NWO elites. They live here, build here, and control from here. Why? It is an opportune place, 2 oceans divide it from the rest of the world, it has enough turmoil to keep people from uniting anytime soon and should they do so in the stanard sence they will be easily wiped out.
"I envy you people of North America, for you live in the BELLY OF THE BEAST."
-Che Guevera- Guirilla fighter

We live in their belly, thus we are a threat, thus they keep pushing more control over US more than anyone else. Anyone else they can just bomb, however they have quams apparently about bombing their own backyard, lucky us...

Should you refuse, as others have said and now me:
1: Concentration camp
2: Execution
3: Fines
4: Imprisonment
5: Having to hide forever
OR
1: Fight back when the moment presents itself
2: Join them

CHOOSE WISELY! You only get ONE shot at this, should you fail, no second chances.
Edit: added a few more sentences

[edit on 9-1-2007 by Vekar]

New World Order lives from the ignorance of others
Each educated people stands against the Elites' plan, so what was their mighty blow?

-Schools!
-pure specialization!

I am not saying that specializing in one science is a bad thing, but to command your science and ignore what else moves around you, then this is ignorance at all majesty. This is the way to obey NWO's will. They simply tell you ''mind your job'' and you from love of what you are doing you serve their needs.

-Have you noticed how many students, at schools, are attentive to their teachers?

-Very few

-How many attend all lessons with the same interest as their specality?

-counted on fingers

Why?

Many factors:
-teachers' incapability
-domestic problems
-working
-bullying
-playing hours and hours virtual reality games, which destract pupils' attention from the real world
-squalor conditions of slams
etc

-What all factors above do?

-Serve NWO

The funny thing is that NWO is not responsible of any of these factors, but is full in charge for remaining apathy and not doing anything to prevent them. Instead, enchance them.

The problem with teaching is not the teachers on the whole, it is what they are required to teach or NOT to teach. When I was in high school we BARELY got up to WW2 then stopped cold before the holocaust. That was it, birth of America up to start of WW2. Needles to say I spent most of my time in the library reading OTHER history books and then public libraries reading up on what they do NOT like to teach. Teachers anymore have so much paperwork thanks to the new "No Child Left Behind" and other such acts and laws that they cannot teach the students. Then on top of that they BAN books from the school that are about SOCIAL ISSUES and the like, books that how the racism and elitism in society for what it truely is: a degration of society and humanity.
Anymore teachers are being let in who are rather idiotic and stupid to say the least. They are forcing out the older and wiser teachers because they actually have to PAY them and are replacing them with young pups who are clueless know-it-alls. Then they IMPORT teachers, yes they IMPORT teachers from ASIA. People who barely speak and write English are TEACHING English.
Read this book: The Dumbing Down of America
That will cover SOME of it up to about 2000, none the less you will notice most kids anymore read at an 6th-8th grade level when they are LEAVING high school.
The biggest threat to fascists and elites is people who can READ. Remember Hitler burned books? That was because books TEACH people things, they can EXPAND their mind. However, if you dumb down society so it cannot READ, then it cannot LEARN. Dumb people are easier to control, that is what they are gunning for right now.


Back to discussion, no matter what you do if you refuse the elites control over you, it will NOT be pretty once they get things going to a "complete" extent.

Originally posted by Vekar
Should you refuse, as others have said and now me:
1: Concentration camp
2: Execution
3: Fines
4: Imprisonment
5: Having to hide forever
OR
1: Fight back when the moment presents itself
2: Join them

CHOOSE WISELY! You only get ONE shot at this, should you fail, no second chances.
Edit: added a few more sentences

[edit on 9-1-2007 by Vekar]

Don't forget focibly given drugs for made up illnesses. This IS the brave new world. It's bad enough now with ADD medications and anti-depressants for younger people, imagine what a system will do with unlimited power bent on destroying all life. Drug drug drug drug. Psychiatry is f-ing evil and like then and like now it's going to be the main avenue to implement slavery of the populace into a spiritual and mental prison.

Seriously, check out this website: www.cchr.org

You're going to barf after you realize how right I am on this subject.



[edit on 11-1-2007 by jaguarmike]

How right you are? Rather self rightchouse there if you ask me...
Forced medications can be fought by those who do not take it, just raid the places that make them and destroy them. Then again you could always hit the trucks that deliver them to an area and disrupt it and as your numbers grow push them back.
Right now forced drugs will only work on the little ones, even the older kids who use these drugs go and commit suicide because of depression. The drugs only work if you WANT them to work, if you have both eyes open you will never be "happy" like the drugs are supposed to make you feel. As people are educated like others have said they will reject the drugs, only those who WANT to take them will take them, but then again those who take it willingly ARE the ENEMY! They have become their patsies. Keep educating people and fewer will take the drugs even if they are forced too, because they will still have their thinking minds. So far unless they put you into a near state of acoma you can still think and move to a degree, they cannot control you mentally with drugs untill you GIVE IN.
Education is key, fighting them is also JUST AS IMPORTANT!