North American Union - Spp - Nafta Superhighway

Originally posted by forestlady

Originally posted by darkbluesky
Seems to me that every member nation of the EU held a general vote to determine if that nation would join the EU or not.
[edit on 1/10/2007 by darkbluesky]

This is exactly the problem: WE here in the U.S., Canada and Mexico will NOT have the opportunity to vote on whether or not we want an NAU.

Another bad thing is this: Americans will be forced to have part of their tax money go to Mexico. Yes, you read it right, Americans will be forced to give money to Mexico. It's right there on the govt's NAU site:

spp.gov

Check it out. Also check out the rest of the propaganda on the site. Just for starters, and also we don't get to vote on whether or not we want an NAU. That violates the Constitution. The NAU is not a good thing.

Come on Forestlady, Where's the love? Mexicans are people too.

Seriously, I've read every word on the SPP.gov site and can honestly say I don't see anything malevolent or disadventagous to Americans. Maybe I missed some stuff. Could you please direct me toward the sections that support claims like:

Another bad thing is this: Americans will be forced to have part of their tax money go to Mexico.

we Americans will be supportjing Mexico with our hard-earned dollars

With this statement

Also check out the rest of the propaganda on the site.

I can only assume you see the entire document as propaganda since everything I read in it seems to represent sound, forward thinking, for dealing with the realities of the future.

I understand the resistance to the idea of a NAU if it were to be implemented as many allege - with no choice, massive redistribution of wealth, etc. but I see no indications that these concerns are real.

The mere existence of the SPP without voter unput does not constitute "no choice". Much more binding agreements between the US and other countries have been executed without voter input: NATO, UN, NAFTA US Canadian defense agreements - over 2,500.

The only economic issues involved seem to be the dropping, or reduction of import tarrifs.

Please point me toward the sections of the SPP.gov site, or other official documents that support your claims.

And with all due respect, please don't call me lazy, and alert me to the existence of Google. I have "googled" NAU extensively. Official, or academic articles support my position that there is no conspiracy involved with the Security and Prosperity Partnership. There are many hack opinion and scare pieces about NWO, Freemansons, Illuminatii etc. I dismiss these because they offer no evidence. Just more wild allegations of human cattle, chip implants, corporate control of the world...bla, bla, bla.

Thanks

DarkBlueSky: All I can say is that this is very, very weird - Last week when I went to that website, spp.gov, it talked extensively about America giving money to Mexico so mexico can strengthen its economy. It had programs in place, etc. Now it's not on that site, anywhere. I can only guess they took the information out. I can't find it anywhere else either. But I know that I read it. Makes me wonder what's going on?

Originally posted by forestlady
DarkBlueSky: All I can say is that this is very, very weird - Last week when I went to that website, spp.gov, it talked extensively about America giving money to Mexico so mexico can strengthen its economy.

The United States gives and lends money to alot of Countries to strengthen their economies, buy food, build dams and reseviors, buy medicine, build hospitals, pay doctors............

It's widely understood the primary reason we give/lend all this money to these countires is for our own best interests in terms of economics and security. This however does not negate the positive impact this aid has on the people of the recipient countries.

How would giving money to Mexico be any different? Indeed, I think Mexico and Canada should get even more consideration given their strategic importance in relation to todays security concerns (infiltration of the US by covert operatives of Al Qaieda, Hammas, Hezballah, Taliban)

[edit on 2/1/2007 by darkbluesky]

DBS, there is discussion on this thread too, about us supporting Mexico:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Others have heard about us giving money to Mexico, as well. You might want to check out the discussion.

Originally posted by fiveangelsfrank
"NAU government will be controlled by corporations. Corporations only have one goal, MONEY!! They couldnt care less about us"

How are these corperations suppose to make money if they make slaves of us?
What is a corperation without the consumer?
Who are they going to sell their produts to?

The people at the top of this movement already have more money than they could spend in many lifetimes. Their total control of the money systems guarantees them that this wealth will continue to exist. Their next goal is to eliminate the ‘excess’ population, leaving just enough vassals to serve them, and maintain their riches. It’s Neo-Feudalism, and has it’s origin in the original lie, ‘ye shall be as gods’. These people are servants of Satan, and like him, seek to take Gods place. They are playing God, and really believe they will succeed.

Money is just a means to an end for these people, and the end is total godlike control.

Alex Jones has touched on the NAFTA Superhighway before. There is one thing that sort of goes under the radar when it comes down to it. Back in April of 2005, Kansas City Southern Railway completed it's acquisition of Grupo Transportacion de Mexico, Railway Transportation Group of Mexico. All though, K.C.S. itself is planned to be a holding company for the Kansas City Southern Railway, TexMex, and TFM, the whole four-railway system is marketed as the NAFTA Railway, emphazising KCS's cross-border abilities. Kansas City Southern's long-term plans include support of the Kansas City SmartPort.

The port is the Kansas City SmartPort that is located to the south of Kansas City. The location is formerly known as the Richards-Gebaur Air Force Base. This property was first built as Grandview Airport back in 1941. However, in 1955, the city of Kansas City deeded the old airport over to the United States Air Force. The base was named after John Francisco Richards III and Authur William Gebaur Jr., both of whom were killed in combat. This port uses Mexican Customs Agents to inspect cargo that is going into Mexico from the United States. The products that are being shipped to the ports in Mexico would be bound for ports in Asia.