Questions about Fallen Angels ...........

Reply: Allow me to make you aware that only HUMANS have a soul. Therefore the fallen angels who REBELLED against God never had and still do not have a soul. If a human is cloned that human can rebel but yet does/will not have a soul.

Your saying that cloned humans will or could become fallen angels ?
Will clones that we produce on earth rebel agains humans with a soul ?

Is god not around or with us all of the time so why the imporance of church related activities.
Is it not enough just to believe ?*?

Don't fallen angels live forever?
If yes,why would they need a soul ?

I have but ONE problem with your VERY long postulations here Trained...

You claim to know the mind of GOD. Not to mention the fact that a "Sign" from Him is NOT a sign unless you can READ IT.

You have bought off on the latest line of fundamentalist Baptist evangelical SALES PITCH for more PAYING members and sadly mistaken it for reality...

Which brings me right back round to the question I asked you last night that you FAILED to answer, or even thank me for asking...

WHAT is the great empty part in your EGO that has driven you to believe you are on par with Moses, Noah, John the Baptist, and the rest of the great Prophets?!

I assure you Lad, if GOD wanted YOUR message spread you would NOT be quibbling with the likes of ME on a message board.

I also assure you that NO ENTITY is capable of Stealing a Human Soul by Trickery, a Human Soul can ONLY be given freely.

You see it's like this, our souls are unknown to us in this life. Can you take yours out and shine it up? No. Can you even concentrate and see it? No.

It's an OLD saw that the Human soul can be stolen, Vampires, Satan, etc... It can ONLY be given and ONLY AFTER LIFE.

While I'll give you an "A" for persistence I'm afraid you have FAILED in the reality department.

You need a NEW LINE of wares my man...

PEACE...
m...

God just told me enough is enough.....

He said to tell you to come clean and admit its all a lie.

Originally posted by DarkRaven
I had a theory that Aliens.. are really the Nephilim, the fallen angels that people speak of in the holy books. If so.. could Aliens be the Anti-Christ? Would this be the great deception youre speaking of? I have ranted to many of my friends about this many times. I beleive that if a group of "Aliens" landed in downtown LA one day and said "WE CREATED YOU, WE ARE GOD" many people, (being as people now a days are people of science rather than faith) would believe them immediately and follow... Personally I beleive that this will happen some day. It would be such a great deception to God if he does come back. Which I also believe he will. I am a man of faith, and science. I believe that science will be used to blind faith. What do you think?

Reply: You are definately on track here!!!

Thanks for asking.............

If the exclamation points and "thank You for asking" are BLINDING the chap form seeing the TOUGH questions?

Obviously it's hard to argue against logic BUT when you present the utterly ILLOGICAL as fact and the ONLY eveidence you have is what you gleaned from the Southern Baptist Covention's latest sales manual I guess it's the SMART thing to do!

P...
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Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Oh yeah,
Trained for this.
My first Guru was given his relevation by GOD.
Why does his relevation differ from that of Jesus?

Reply: Simply because Jesus IS God in the flesh and therefore He was actually God speaking. Your Guru is a man just like you and I and not God in the flesh.

You: Why does the definitition of GOD differ from the two?

Reply: Again, Jesus is God in the flesh. I would believe what God says about Himself before any mere so called Guru.

You: Our first Guru States that god is not a physical being, and cannot have any children, is nore a father, nor a mother, a son, or a daughter.
Why would God tell two different people two different things?

Reply: Your "first" Guru was deceived by information passed along by a being who was thought to be the angel Gabriel but was actually Satan disguised as an angel of light speaking to him. This lying fallen angel (Satan) started the lie that God had no child in order to refute Christianity. The lie has continued to this day. God did not tell your Guru anything and remember Jesus IS GOD IN THE FLESH!!! So you can understand I hope why I believe what Jesus said over a DECEIVED mere mortal.

Thanks for asking..............

You call Budha a "Deceived mere mortal" what are YOU?

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[Edited on 12-21-2003 by Springer]

Originally posted by Imzadi
Calling my group or any Greys "fallen angels" would be like calling me a N***er! It is an insult.

People on Earth should all hang together or they will all hang separately.

Reply: Such a position will be promoted after the sannouncement!!!

You: Remember Ronald Reagan? "What if some outside force...."

Reply: That statement was made by Former President Reagan during the time when TPTB were considering staging a "FAKE ALIEN INVASION". However they decided against it!!!

Thanks for commenting................

Originally posted by autumn
when i first began reading your thread i thought u were
a liar but when you compared aliens to angels i saw u have some
of the same thoughts as me but i cant say im sure of
anything .my question is do you have any facts or links
to the subject of the arc of the covenant.

Reply: No links but all I will say for now is to stay on topic is that "it IS real"!!!

Thanks for asking.............

Originally posted by SevenZeroOne
Question for Trained:

Why do almost all of your replies end with 3 exclamation points?


Sorry for the simplicity, but it's the one question I thought I could ask and get a semi-realistic answer to.

Reply: Let's just say it is something I picked up from a VERY OLD friend!!!

Thanks for asking............

[I, personally DO believe in the teachings of Christ. I do not need the threat of aliens stealing my soul to force me to conform to a twisted Christian agenda.

Reply: That is certainly a NEW spin on the topic. Aliens do not STEAL souls and have no desire to do such and also CANNOT do such. However they ARE desperately trying to discover how to CREATE a soul for themselves and therefore abduct humans for the purpose of experimentation in this area!!!

Thanks for commenting...............

As long as people cannot get along with each other, ETs will be reluctant to show themselves. Earth people MUST become less warlike before real disclosure can happen. If humans can't get along with each other, how in the world will they be able to get along with ETs....most of whom are NOT human-looking.
Humans must stop squabbling about scriptures and prophets, LAND and other matters. THEN the ETs will feel comfortable enough to show themselves and engage in a real dialog.
The humans that are not ready to meet the ETs are not residing in any particular country.
Accepting disclosure will be UNEVEN....according to previous beliefs.

Animals DO HAVE SOULS!! I have observed a lot of abstract thought from cats and dogs.
1. I actually SAW a cat cross the street and turn upside down in front of a friend's seeing-eye dog! It was a strange cat. It had to REASON that the dog had on a special harness and as long as he had that on, he could not run or disobey.
2. One day, when a woman's hands with stigmata was shown on TV, my cat went to the TV, and stretched up and put a PAW ON EACH HAND!
Normally, the cat never looked at TV.
3. My poodle "talked" to say "OUT" when he wanted to go out. When I caught on, he stomped his feet and said, "WOOOOOO!" That was his way of applauding.
Intelligence is tied up with SOUL.

Trainedforthis... after reading this whole post... I've decided to make two questions.

Are you familiar with the site wingmakers, and what is your stance on them?


and on a different note.. Something i've always wondered about heaven... will we know our loved ones and still share the love we've had on earth?
When we enter the afterlife.. what will happen to the girl i love, my parents, my brother and sister, my family... all the people i want to spend the rest of my life with.. and after life... will we still know each other in the afterlife and continue the love we share today?


[Edited on 21-12-2003 by porschedrifter]

but the fact lies here... either way wether it be "fallen angels" or alien clones (greys) invading earth and trying to control us... Whatever they are, they are up to no good, and something bad is happening and we are getting lied to by the government. I've read into the whole pole shift, said to happen in 2012 i believe... www.alienshift.com and also the link on your site... saying when we shift to the 4th dimension and the aliens come out with an opened hand and say we will help you in these troubled times.. where we will be most vulnerable..... plausable? yes.. in theory so ... i have another question.. is the bible code real? www.alienshift.com...

Why give this bigoted freak any more material to work his illogical extremst crap on.
He is NO Christian.

Christians don't try to scare others into following Christ.
Christians don't show such massive disrespect to other religions.
In fact that sort of behaviour would probably be atypical of a Satanist - to hide behind the lie of promoting Christianity whilst secretly promoting service to self.

Trained is nothing more than an extremist zealot trying to tie in his crackpot theory with his own brand of crank Christianity.
When questions arise that he can't answer, he either ignores them, makes a one word reply or spews some sort of incoherent babble that has nothing to do with the question.

And where in any of this is his proof? His whole theory rests on him being "special". Well let me tell you this - he is "special".
They tend to call people "special" when they have mental problems before packing them off to the secure units.

Originally posted by Leveller
Why give this bigoted freak any more material to work his illogical extremst crap on.

Trained is nothing more than an extremist zealot trying to tie in his crackpot theory with his own brand of crank Christianity.
When questions arise that he can't answer, he either ignores them, makes a one word reply or spews some sort of incoherent babble that has nothing to do with the question.

I think so too, let's leave this topic for what it is and move on, most people are already quiet because they know what Leveler said above.

COMMENTARY

Here are a few observations about this thread. There are different groups replying to this thread that I will attempt to categorize here.

1. There are those who think it is a crock just because they "SAY SO". But you will notice they never give a reason other than because they say so. This group includes those who prefer mind control tactics and some even seem to IN GREED AND JEALOUSY care only about someone getting ATS points. Those in this group constantly BEG for the thread to be locked. If you take note you will see that the constantly come back with the same insults and negative remarks and begging as those they were not seen the first time they remarked. They are obviously not aware that they can just simply stop reading and posting. Oh yes they keep saying that they are wasting their time and that they are leaving but for some strange reason they NEVER leave as though this is some STRANGE DRUG they are hooked on.

2. There are those who do not believe because it goes agains what they have been traditionally "TOLD" what the bible says and are not open to being led by the Holy
Spirit. These so called traditional bible believers refuse to beleive what the bible says in John 15:34. That the Holy Spirit will lead and guide into all truth and "SHOW YOU OF THINGS TO COME".

3. There are those who believe the Aliens do exist but have bought into the concept that they are not ALL bad but only some are, and that I am some racist bigot who refuse to show love to another life form. These are not aware that the Aliens/Fallen Angels are relying on this old "GOOD COP, BAD COP THEORY"!!!

4. There are those who are not sure and are being cautious and in a sort of lets wait and see mode. I hope that the "SOON ANNOUNCEMENT" brings closure and discosure for them.

5. Then there are those who actually understand and believe, though few in number........This is called a REMNANT!!! God be praised!!!

Finally, I have notice that those who have debunked this thread offer no answer for the Alien Presence. And rarely has one said that I was wrong and then in turn gave what they would call the proper answer. The reason for this is that there are only a "HANDFUL" of people who really know what is happening. Some may say I think I am "SPECIAL". However it is not that I am any special than anyone else............."JUST CHOSEN" for the job!!! Many are called, few are chosen!!!

IF ONLY ONE PERSON UNDERSTANDS THIS MESSAGE AND MAKES THE PROPER PREPARATIONS, I HAVE DONE MY JOB!!!

Thanks for reading................

i dont care what your intention is but a lie is a lie.... you are only hurting yourself

Originally posted by Thatoneguy
i dont care what your intention is but a lie is a lie.... you are only hurting yourself

How do you know its a lie? Tell us....