Baseball: Enough with the LIES in baseball !!! Time for fan BOYCOTT??

Ming, you're missing the point -

Originally posted by MingMercil
I read in the paper that in Boston, they sold out almost their entire season already. You can bet that's going to happen with the other big market teams.

Fully expected, especially in Boston, where they just lifted the infamous curse. That's truly a baseball town now, the fans are on an all-time baseball high.

You can talk boycott all you want - It just ain't gonna happen. Sports are the new religion in the US and despite all of the really bad stuff, theres is plenty of good exciting stuff to see. And people will not "just say no" to baseball or football or the Olympics.

No one here has said that everything in sports is bad. And the call for a boycott is not for the whole season, that would be truly impossible. Just the opening day games, or even that whole weekend. For baseball. Not anything else (although the NHL deserves it too, for what they are putting the fans through, or the NBA, but the fans are at fault as much there)

Don't get me wrong, in many respects steroids have done a number on the sports scene - especially on the high holy record books, but face it, there is nothing to be done but to adapt your way at looking at sports.

In my opinion, you may have a point there. If the fans just continue to sit on thier bums and take what the athletes and the leagues are giving us. But, a boycott of opening weekend games would definately get the attention of the powers that be, and not just in MLB.

As I keep asking you idiots, what do you do when the creeps keep developing 'roids that are undetectable! Tell me?! What do you - what can you - do then? Let me answer for you: NOTHING!!!

Thanks for the insult, though no one has insulted you. It shows the class of person we are dealing with here. And your attitude shows your willingness to stand up for what you believe in.

Face up to it boys, the future is now.

So, let them know that we won't take it. Take a stand. How else can the fans let the players, the owners, the agents, know that we're upset with this type of behaviour? By hitting them in the almighty pocketbook. The shock of playing in front of empty seats for a weekend, knowing that this revenue is not being captured, says something. Sure, the tickets may have been purchased as part of a season ticket package, or through a travel agency, but all of the extras sold in a ballpark that weekend aren't getting purchased. And empty seats, on opening day? Can you imagine the media's response?

Is there really going to be completely empty stadiums on opening day, even if we get the national exposure that I hope this idea gets? Doubtful. But, will the stadiums be emptier than usual? they should be, if the fans truly care about this sport.

Last time I checked, ProAm, free speech was still allowed. If you want to dock me on style points, be my guest. But as I understand it, unless I start using obscenities, this site is open to all.

At least the Gibbsmeister attempted to systematically respond to my gripes. And although I still think he's wrong, I appreciate the effort.

I still think all of you "dreamers" (how's that PA, a little better? Can you take that without crying or wetting the bed?) sound like well-aged hippies with love beads.

I still don't see anyone answering my question: What do you do when the creeps keep developing steroids and enhancers that cannot be detected? Tell me?! What do you - what can you - do then? Let me answer for you, once more, if I am be so bold: NOTHING!!!

Even if the powers that be (MLB, NFL, XFL, etc) were kicked into gear by a protest, What would they do then? WHAT CAN ANBODY DO???!!!! I refuse to answer my own question again.

On further reflection, you're not idiots. Not exactly anyway.

Originally posted by MingMercil
Last time I checked, ProAm, free speech was still allowed. If you want to dock me on style points, be my guest. But as I understand it, unless I start using obscenities, this site is open to all.

No docking here, I should apologize for over-reacting. I've been stressed the &*%# out as of late. Tis' the season!


I doubt we could get a boycott enough publicity and even if it did, it probably wouldn't be large enough to make much difference. I do like the idea though. And I still plan to purchase my Phillies ticket package.

If the labs keep making undetectable enhancers then you're right Ming, there is nothing that can be done. Unless MLB can find a lab that can keep up with them, we're either going to have to accept their product with blind faith or find a new hobby.

"I've had great success being a total idiot." - Jerry Lewis

Fair enough, ProAm. I suspect that I may have gotten a little carried away myself.

I love sports and these self-absorbed, greedy SOBs are ruining them. When I think of all of the great players, really great NATURAL athletes: Ruth, Aaron, Mantle, Mays, etc. etc. and see their records being torn to shreds by people who are taking unfair advantage and getting away with it - makes my blood boil - especially when I am coming to the realization that I do not believe it can be stopped.

Peace be with you brother.

[Edited on 12/15/04 by MingMercil]

i am thinking what may work better than a fan boycott would be an email campaign to the companies that buy ads at the ball parks. in the programs, on the tv and radio stations that carry the major league games, saying that as a consumer you do not approve of their support of baseball and it's drug policy and will not buy their products until something is done to clean up the game and restore it's integrity...the companies that provide the sponsorship dollars want to see postiive results for their investment, not negative publicity over it

Originally posted by toejam
i am thinking what may work better than a fan boycott would be an email campaign to the companies that buy ads at the ball parks. in the programs, on the tv and radio stations that carry the major league games, saying that as a consumer you do not approve of their support of baseball and it's drug policy and will not buy their products until something is done to clean up the game and restore it's integrity...the companies that provide the sponsorship dollars want to see postiive results for their investment, not negative publicity over it

that's a good idea, too. But which companies, who owns them, etc...

the companies like budweiser, i doubt there is a baseball oprogram sold in the us without a bud ad in it..a simple email to them off their corporate web site is free and easy, if enough people did this it would hit them where they live, as i said in my earlier post, these companies are in it for the benefits that being associated with baseball provide, they are not looking for the negative publicity

Like Darwin's natural selection, I will assume that most major companies who endorse sports & athletes, like Nike, Budweiser et al, will pull their endorsements from people who use or are even suspected of using 'roids. That may be some incentive for some of the other athletes to avoid their use.

But if I, as an athlete, can go undeteted, and break, eg, all home run records - I use the stuff. As long as it cannot be definitively proven I am cheating, I will cheat (not me personally, but you no what I mean). I think that is the mentality out there.

Maybe if a few more guys start having serious life threateneing side effects we may see any voluntary cessation the use of this stuff.

In the playoffs of 2003, I can still see JGiambi's eyes bugging out of his head in the NYY dugout. It looked like his head was going to explode. At first I thought - Wow is this guy intense or what? - then I said, no, just a freak.