as we sit comfortably in our own homes

Originally posted by Pherophile

Originally posted by Garon
Right. I feel sorry that they are their. I hope they all come home safe. Don't ask me to be glad they're there or proud of this war.

Oh really? Care to explain these rather damning statements then?

What damning statements?

"I feel sorry that they are there"...damning? no...seems empathetic....
" Don't ask me to be glad they're there or proud of this war." I already addressed this in my previous statement. I am NOT glad they are their and I am not proud of this war. How is that damning? Seems pretty clear to me. Are you saying you are glad that they are over there fighting and dying?

I will say this one last time.

I have the utmost respect for them and I wish them safety. If I could do something to prove that, I would.

Again, I do not and will never support this war. That does not mean I think negative on those that are fighting it. They are doing their job. I am proud of them for it.

Democracy "American!" Style

this soldier wasnt so lucky:




[Edited on 25-11-2003 by SectorGaza]

Originally posted by Pherophile

Originally posted by sirCyco
But saying your not proud of the work their doing is like watching someone put up a house for minimal pay in order to help others, then having someone like you walk up and say, "Well, I respect the fact that you tried, but that houses sucks.

theres a bit of a difference between building homes and blowing them up....

It was a metaphorical example, genius.

hey moron..your the one comparing the building of homes to the act of killing.... you need to find a better comparison so you dont look so stupid!!

[Edited on 11-25-2003 by sirCyco]

God Bless them All.

Originally posted by Garon

Originally posted by Pherophile

Originally posted by Garon
Right. I feel sorry that they are their. I hope they all come home safe. Don't ask me to be glad they're there or proud of this war.

Oh really? Care to explain these rather damning statements then?

What damning statements?

"I feel sorry that they are there"...damning? no...seems empathetic....
" Don't ask me to be glad they're there or proud of this war." I already addressed this in my previous statement. I am NOT glad they are their and I am not proud of this war. How is that damning? Seems pretty clear to me. Are you saying you are glad that they are over there fighting and dying?

I will say this one last time.

I have the utmost respect for them and I wish them safety. If I could do something to prove that, I would.

Again, I do not and will never support this war. That does not mean I think negative on those that are fighting it. They are doing their job. I am proud of them for it.

It doesn't seem to be worth much unless you think they are doing a good job. Imagine this, its as simple as possible.

Your playing football. Your team ran a play that was slightly controversial because it bends a few rules. You ran this play because your coach told your team to. You one. A fan comes up and says, after you worked very hard, "well, I'm proud of you for trying out there."

You would be thinking, "I know they don't agree with me, but they could at least acknowledge I did what I did well."

Straightforward question, only requires a yes or no. Do you believe the troops are doing a good job in Iraq, even though you don't think they should be in Iraq?

Originally posted by sirCyco

Originally posted by Pherophile

Originally posted by sirCyco
But saying your not proud of the work their doing is like watching someone put up a house for minimal pay in order to help others, then having someone like you walk up and say, "Well, I respect the fact that you tried, but that houses sucks.

theres a bit of a difference between building homes and blowing them up....

It was a metaphorical example, genius.

hey moron..your the one comparing the building of homes to the act of killing.... you need to find a better comparison so you dont look so stupid!!

[Edited on 11-25-2003 by sirCyco]

I was not comparing building a house to killing people, I was comparing the support you recieve for both. You have to look past the simple actions the people are performing. I was comparing the reactions they get, not what they were doing.

they are following orders period....

this is disgraceful this post was made to honor the soldiers and you sit here and bicker. you are dishonoring them by doing this

I cannot answer that question with a simple yes or no. In the beginning, they did an amazing job, they went in and cleaned house. Now, they are being faced with suicide bombers and whatever else. So in this new environment, I can say they are doing their job to the best of their ability in the current situation they are in. Does that make sense? There are no clear rules of engagement. They are handling themselves as best they can when faced with the types of attacks they are encountering. Does that mean they are doing a good job? It means they are doing the best job they can.

Originally posted by Djarums

1) What he does have is a duty to follow the orders that are handed down to him

2) Blaming a typical serviceman for this war puts one on the intelligence level of a chair. Congratulations.

1) Many tryed to use this argument. It was in 1945, at the nazis Nuremberg trial.

2) I agree with you. Blaming the soldiers is stupid and not fair.

Now US Patriot, I've a question 4 u. Did you ever wear a uniform ? Rangers ? Marines ? Gi's ? Fireworker ? Something else ?

Originally posted by Garon
I cannot answer that question with a simple yes or no. In the beginning, they did an amazing job, they went in and cleaned house. Now, they are being faced with suicide bombers and whatever else. So in this new environment, I can say they are doing their job to the best of their ability in the current situation they are in. Does that make sense? There are no clear rules of engagement. They are handling themselves as best they can when faced with the types of attacks they are encountering. Does that mean they are doing a good job? It means they are doing the best job they can.

Alright, I accept that.

I may not agree, but I finally think it is a supported opinion

Blaming a typical serviceman for this war puts one on the intelligence level of a chair. Congratulations.

who blamed the servicemen???

Originally posted by U.S. Patriot

Originally posted by Satyr
Sorry, but I think you have to have a drone mentality to join the services in the first place. Sell myself to the gov't like some kind of whore? Not on your life.

You only say that cause you've been exposed to some truths. STFU then who cares if you don't care about wheter or not your place has been taken by some poor kid from the U.S. UK, ITALY et cetera....you ungreatful person.

Of course I've been exposed to truths. If you feel that strongly about them, then why would you want to send them to Iraq? The only thing worse than war, is unnecessary war. The only thing worse than fighting an unnecessary war, is believing you're doing it for a good reason. BTW, what are you doing here? Why aren't you in Iraq, taking the place of some poor kid from the U.S., UK, ITALY, etc.?

[Edited on 11-25-2003 by Satyr]

Originally posted by ultra_phoenix

Originally posted by Djarums

1) What he does have is a duty to follow the orders that are handed down to him

2) Blaming a typical serviceman for this war puts one on the intelligence level of a chair. Congratulations.

1) Many tryed to use this argument. It was in 1945, at the nazis Nuremberg trial.

2) I agree with you. Blaming the soldiers is stupid and not fair.

Now US Patriot, I've a question 4 u. Did you ever wear a uniform ? Rangers ? Marines ? Gi's ? Fireworker ? Something else ?

I plead the fifth........I know you were NATO.....thank you for your service.

I plead the fifth........

you plead the fifth??? i take that as a no then you never served in any armed forces...

Originally posted by sirCyco
I plead the fifth........

you plead the fifth??? i take that as a no then you never served in any armed forces...

Why do you care? Are you going to take me out for a beer then. what difference does it make if I've put bullets thru flesh or NOT?

Tell me what difference does it make? Do you pay my bills? Screw off knob.

[Edited on 25-11-2003 by U.S. Patriot]

thats a cop-out if i have ever heard one......

Originally posted by sirCyco
thats a cop-out if i have ever heard one......

you never ever, ever admit to anything on the internet

you've defiled my thread with your sensless ramblings stay out. Thanks. This is for the lost wages of war. .............inbreds where do they come from......sheesh.

[Edited on 25-11-2003 by U.S. Patriot]

Originally posted by U.S. Patriot

Originally posted by sirCyco
thats a cop-out if i have ever heard one......

you never ever, ever admit to anything on the internet

you've defiled my thread with your sensless ramblings stay out. Thanks. This is for the lost wages of war. .............inbreds where do they come from......sheesh.

[Edited on 25-11-2003 by U.S. Patriot]

sounds like another cop-out

Originally posted by sirCyco

Originally posted by U.S. Patriot

Originally posted by sirCyco
thats a cop-out if i have ever heard one......

you never ever, ever admit to anything on the internet

you've defiled my thread with your sensless ramblings stay out. Thanks. This is for the lost wages of war. .............inbreds where do they come from......sheesh.

[Edited on 25-11-2003 by U.S. Patriot]

sounds like another cop-out

Oh I see.........your one of them little guys that want to crawl under skin and irritate. What ever makes you happy but deep in your bumpy little cranium where you carry that waste floating in brain piss you know nothing.