One of if not the biggest problem ever

However far off or near in the future this may be, I personally believe this would be the essential tool for turning the human race around.

All current world religions must be abolished. Because we as humans, do not and cannot know everything, religion must stay around in some form, but how.

That is what I am asking, what would be some sort of all-excepting, peaceful, non-dogma, world-uniting religion to be created? It must be simple. explain what needs explaining, give people a reason to be good, and not use any methods of control. It also should recquire hardly anything from you.

Who else here believes that religion has been one of if not the biggest problem in human history.

Man is the single biggest problem....religion as politics as war as anything else, is merely a tool of Man.


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seekerof

truly, we are the greatest problem and achievement of this world.

Who can deny polarity, perhaps the most fundamental law of the universe.

Polarity, and balanced out. We are both the geratest and worst, it must be.

However I was addressing problems within our social structure, hopefully already having acknowledged the problem of man himself.

Yeah yeah, avoid the question by posting a different argument.

How about this for a religion?

Do not knowingly directly or indirectly negatively affect any thing, with the exception of killing for food, and if there is no alternative, shelter.

What we would be looking for a here is something for the weak to hang their hats on as well as the strong.

What you mention is more a social code than a religion.
The point is, people want answers to where they came from and where they're going. Personally, I can live without, but not everyone can. I was thinking that a pantheistic or taoist movement would be best for us, but that may be a biased opinion, and everyone might not be capable of such esoteric thoughts.

Why not just go for finding out what exactly is true?

a single perfect religion would not work because men are corrupt and many ppl would try to twist the fairness to their advantage. the reason we cannot agree on a religon is the same reason utopias are not possible

Originally posted by pineappleupsidedown
a single perfect religion would not work because men are corrupt and many ppl would try to twist the fairness to their advantage. the reason we cannot agree on a religon is the same reason utopias are not possible

It also wouldnt work because men have free will. They can come up with there own opinions like we all do. Then they will do what all men do. Form groups based on those opinions. Then attempt to kill the other group. The perfect religion would be the absolute proof of no god, or the proof of one god. But since we cannot be sure of anything, our opinions will differ.

Religion is not the problem of the world. As said, its man, but man is an animal. Lots of animals make war upon themselves and others. Man's world shaping influence simply allows for larger and more horrifying examples of these acts to occur. Other war-like animals, like ants, can only dream of such power. Though I'm certain if other animals had it, they would use it as much as man has. Religion is a great scapegoat and it will continued to be used as such as it takes the blame of violent actions off those committing them.

Like all creatures, we are essentially blameless for our actions. We obviously were made this way or we wouldn't behave in such a manner. From the tiny microscopic animals that can wipe out entire species (including man) to large predatory animals that feed upon the young and weak, killing is all part of the game of life. We just happen to be the very best at it on this planet.

[Edited on 24-11-2003 by heelstone]

I am not looking for a pefect religion but something to be used as a way to get rid of all (or most) existing religions.
Yet everything you say is very true.
At times man just seems doomed.

Originally posted by Seapeople

Originally posted by pineappleupsidedown
a single perfect religion would not work because men are corrupt and many ppl would try to twist the fairness to their advantage. the reason we cannot agree on a religon is the same reason utopias are not possible

It also wouldnt work because men have free will. They can come up with there own opinions like we all do. Then they will do what all men do. Form groups based on those opinions. Then attempt to kill the other group. The perfect religion would be the absolute proof of no god, or the proof of one god. But since we cannot be sure of anything, our opinions will differ.

couldnt have said it better

Originally posted by Raph
I am not looking for a pefect religion but something to be used as a way to get rid of all (or most) existing religions.
Yet everything you say is very true.
At times man just seems doomed.

the only way to get rid of a religon is to convince the followers that the religon is not true. how can you do that when these people follow by faith, not by proof? people will believe what they will believe, there is no way to get rid of all or most of them. and i agree with seapeople, ppl have free will and will have their own opinions about the "perfect religon"

When we have invented the technology which can reveal the truth about the other dimensions around us, then we will have found our Gods, Demons, aliens, elves, ghosts etc. The facts of the nature of matter itself will be our new religion. No longer will we need blind faith to guide us, we will have stark facts to gnaw on and decide what to do with.

There will still be people who want to destroy everything that is real, just to be rebels without a cause, gods in their own right.

Originally posted by Raph
I am not looking for a pefect religion but something to be used as a way to get rid of all (or most) existing religions.
Yet everything you say is very true.
At times man just seems doomed.

No need to destroy existing religions, we just have to understand them and follow the true spirit of religions.

The problem humanity has is ignorance, every single religion has its fundamentalists who claim that their way is the only way. Religion itself is not a problem, they are.

Imagine religion beling a cube, each side of it different colour and each side representing one world religion. Christians are, let say, red. All they see is their red side, and they keep saying the whole cube is red. Jews see the blue side and keep saying the whole cube must be blue, we are right. I reality, the cube has all the colours and NEEDS them all to be complete.

Religions represent different form of worship of one single deity, the all-knowing, all-present, timeless force of creation.

The day most of people realise that will be the day when true peace will reign on earth.

I thought the globalists were trying to get rid of all religion and then replace it with satanism?

Soon Dany will be one of the priests eh Dany?

if everyone was buddhist we'd be in 4th density by now



[Edited on 25-11-2003 by banjoechef]

When mankind has matured enough to stop believing in big boogiemen in the sky judging us, and throwing down lightning bolts.....then man will have also matured enough to have grown past those issues you claim are caused by religion....

Religion is a tool of control, and of inciting an "us versus them" mentality....but wars, etc. are for economic reasons (despite the reason that is claimed).

I'm with paperclip....religion itself isn't necessarily bad in and of itself, but it's the fanatics who make it worse for the rest of us.... However, I do believe that eventually, we'll grow out of the reliance on such beliefs...

Ignorance is the biggest problem.

We only do have already 7 ways in which we destroy ourselves and endanger our chances of survival.

Don't worry to much about the survival of churches, they will not stay after 9 years, neither worry about what will happen because the churches will vanish, worry about why the churches will vanish at that time and worry about the consequences of that happening, listen to the message of the religions, and understand why religions won't excist (all religions say the Gods do come back).

So I just wanted to speak mysterious for once

Originally posted by paperclip

Originally posted by Raph
I am not looking for a pefect religion but something to be used as a way to get rid of all (or most) existing religions.
Yet everything you say is very true.
At times man just seems doomed.

No need to destroy existing religions, we just have to understand them and follow the true spirit of religions.

The problem humanity has is ignorance, every single religion has its fundamentalists who claim that their way is the only way. Religion itself is not a problem, they are.

Imagine religion beling a cube, each side of it different colour and each side representing one world religion. Christians are, let say, red. All they see is their red side, and they keep saying the whole cube is red. Jews see the blue side and keep saying the whole cube must be blue, we are right. I reality, the cube has all the colours and NEEDS them all to be complete.

Religions represent different form of worship of one single deity, the all-knowing, all-present, timeless force of creation.

The day most of people realise that will be the day when true peace will reign on earth.

the only problem with that concept is that christians believe that when there is only one religon left that there will be no peace, as this is one of the signs in revelations that the end of the world is near. Christians then cannot accept a single world religon, because that would be betraying their faith and what christian would give up their faith right before judgement day?