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The Spirit of Science Fiction

Historians of science fiction usually trace the origins of this literary form back to the early 19th century.
Some prefer to see its beginning in the short stories of Edgar Allen Poe, which combined a persuasive realism in style with a subject matter always tinged with the "mysterious" and occult.
Others see the first science fiction writer in Poe�s English contemporary, Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley (wife of the famous poet); her Frankenstein, or the Modern Prometheus, combines fantastical science with occultism in a way characteristic of many science fiction stories since then.

The typical science fiction story, however, was to come with the late 19th and early 20th centuries, from Jules Verne and H.G. Wells to our own days.
From a largely second rate form of literature in the American periodical "pulps" of the 1930s and 40s, science fiction has come of age and become a respectable international literary form in recent decades.
In addition, a number of extremely popular motion pictures have shown how much the spirit of science fiction has captivated the popular imagination. The cheaper and more sensational science fiction movies of the 1950s have given way in the last decade or so to fashionable "idea" movies like 2001: A Space Odyssey, Star Wars, and Close Encounters of the Third Kind, not to mention one of the most popular and long-lived American television series, Star Trek.

The spirit of science fiction is derived from an underlying philosophy or ideology, more often implied than expressed in so many words, which is shared by virtually all those who create in science fiction forms. This philosophy may be summed up in the following main points:

Religion, in the traditional sense, is absent, or else present in a very incidental or artificial way.
The literary form itself is obviously a product of the "post-Christian" age (evident already in the stories of Poe and Shelley).
The science fiction universe is a totally secular one, although often with "mystical" overtones of an occult or Eastern kind. "God," if mentioned at all, is a vague and impersonal power, not a personal being (for example, the "Force" of Star Wars, a cosmic energy that has its evil as well as good side).
The increasing fascination of contemporary man with science fiction themes is a direct reflection of the loss of traditional religious values.

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Nice post Helen.

I love reading your posts cause they make sense.

PS not like some other people here.

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posted on 23-11-2003 at 04:56 PM Post Number: 267227 quote
class="subject"> class="mediumtxt">Some posts don't follow the rules of the forum, that is not respecting others.

We see two people arguing on the side and bunch of others posting another view.

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posted on 23-11-2003 at 04:58 PM Post Number: 267229 edit quote
class="subject"> class="mediumtxt">quote:Originally posted by Russian
quote:Originally posted by boomersooner
sorry about that Frenchie did not mean to ruffel your feathers 63.74.13.36...


Now thats STUPID!

I think you should be BANNED FOR EVER!

You just have a bad attitude!

And you should not be on this website. "images/smilies/ats2505_uzi.gif" align="absmiddle" border=0>russian ,as for beeing banned
forever its never going to happen

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"images/smilies/thumbdown.gif" /> posted on 23-11-2003 at 04:59 PM Post Number: 267231 quote
class="subject">down with quantity class="mediumtxt">quote:Originally posted by surfup
Are you referring to you when you first joined ATS?

Not all New Members are stupid...they ask some good questions.

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correct if im wrong....but how did i "imply" my saying all newbies' are stupid?
please... a shameful comment in it's essence, i assumed you wouldn't go there...a comment only worthy of a rube
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we all were newbies' once upon an ATS registration form, we all abide by the rules or are shown the door, nothing elite to that.
i am one to discourage hating/dissing/personal verbal attacks...one diagnoses the posts as on the verge of being labelled insane, one cannot
incorporate irrelevant material in a topic at such an enormous scale....
open your eyes to the blatant' i plea
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posted on 23-11-2003 at 05:00 PM Post Number: 267232 quote
class="subject"> class="mediumtxt">quote:Originally posted by surfup
Some posts don't follow the rules of the forum, that is not respecting others.

We see two people arguing on the side and bunch of others posting another view.



very good point you made.
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I dont think youn people want to talk polotics and weaponary on this thread.

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Now the sentence above is an example.

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posted on 23-11-2003 at 05:01 PM Post Number: 267234 quote
class="subject"> class="mediumtxt">Sorry for the comment.
New Members, I take it back.
You are not stupid...but geniuses.

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class="subject"> class="mediumtxt">boomersooner so why do you advertise something you were said not to advertise 3 times after being told not to?!

You just want to mess up this forum!

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class="subject"> class="mediumtxt">quote:Originally posted by Russian
Oh yeah I like the SU-47 and Bush is a Good persident!
Now the sentence above is an example.


That is a great example...too much digressing...too little respect to people arguing.

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posted on 23-11-2003 at 05:03 PM Post Number: 267238 quote
class="subject"> class="mediumtxt">quote:Originally posted by boomersooner
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sorry about that Frenchie did not mean to ruffel your feathers 63.74.13.36...


Now thats STUPID!

I think you should be BANNED FOR EVER!

You just have a bad attitude!

And you should not be on this website. "images/smilies/ats2505_uzi.gif" align="absmiddle" border=0>russian ,as for beeing banned
forever its never going to happen

as for boomer,
do you care? or have you made it a habit to be unruly,ergo upholding an optimistic view worthy of an ignorant lout
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class="subject"> class="mediumtxt">And one more thing...ATS is becoming more offensive and personal everday.

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Originally posted by Russian
Nice post Helen.

I love reading your posts cause they make sense.

PS not like some other people here.

Thank you Russian.....If it wasnt for these Orthodox Teachings I myself would not make sense....

I was a believer of these signs in the sky''U.F.O'S '' and would spend alot of time with total fascination looking up in the skies for one to appear and take me away!
But now I do realise that the reason they are appearingmore frequent is because we are nearing to the END of the World!
helen..

My mum used to tell me when i was young that if it rained it was becos someone in heaven was crying or if it was thundering God was angry with someone.

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My mum used to tell me when i was young that if it rained it was becos someone in heaven was crying or if it was thundering God was angry with someone.

Sorry to tell you but you are wrong.

God doesnt cry.

So if God deosnt cry why do we have rain?