Nemesis Star In Our Area

Did anyone ever hear about this? I was just wondering because I never saw this and am kind of interested in this.

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[edit on 29-11-2006 by StinkyDerSon]

Isn't this pretty much the same thing as 'Wormwood' and 'Planet X' - believed to be the homeworld of the Anunakai / Elohim / Nordic Master-Race / Genetic Engineers of humans?

No, morgansolutions, Nemesis (whether or not it exists) has nothing to do with 'Planet X', EBE's, or any similar nonsense. If you'd read the Wiki article StinkyDerSon linked to you would know that.....

As for your question, StinkyDerSon, people have been floating ideas about a possible solar companion for years. As your article states, Nemesis would almost have to be a Brown Dwarf - while the possibility of it being a very low magnitude Red Dwarf in a highly elliptical orbit can't be ruled out, a Brown Dwarf is far more likey (mostly because someone is pretty likely to have noticed a Red Dwarf by now).

Evidence for Nemesis is scant, but has been mounting in recent years. Richard Muller's work regarding mass extinctions and the orbital period of a Nemesis-like companion is a seminal piece of scholarship in this area, and his evidence is compelling but (IMHO) inconclusive.

The discovery of large Trans-Neptunian Objects (TNO's) like the highly eccentric Sedna is taken as being highly suggestive of a companion star like Nemesis. If Nemesis does exist, several planned astronomical surveys like Pan-STARRS and the LSST Survey should be able to detect it. Also, NASA's Wide-Field Infrared Explorer satellite should be able to detect Nemesis if indeed it is a Brown Dwarf - assuming it get's launched at all, of course, given NASA's recent habit of cancelling research and pure-science missions.

Personally, I'm inclined to think that Nemesis exists. The evidence is there, and it would be pretty darn cool, too!

Originally posted by PhloydPhan
Personally, I'm inclined to think that Nemesis exists. The evidence is there, and it would be pretty darn cool, too!

Won't be so cool when it comes round in 20 million years or whatever.

Though with luck, we'll be in a position to do something about it by then. Or else not need to.

And on another note...

EBEs, Annunaki and Wormwood in the Space Exploration forum... I think ATS is suffering from 'forum leakage'. Could this lead to 'forum rot'? And ultimately to 'board cataclysm'?

Worry worry worry...

in section A, titled, "dwarf star" of catogory 1, in the subsection to be intersected at the time of 1 to 1.5 light years so to speak of the title of the matter of the dwarf star, may sometime hit, but who knows, i will never be there at the time when it does, so what the hell of the subsection a in the b of so what.

Originally posted by Astyanax

Originally posted by PhloydPhan
Personally, I'm inclined to think that Nemesis exists. The evidence is there, and it would be pretty darn cool, too!

Won't be so cool when it comes round in 20 million years or whatever.

Though with luck, we'll be in a position to do something about it by then. Or else not need to.

And on another note...

EBEs, Annunaki and Wormwood in the Space Exploration forum... I think ATS is suffering from 'forum leakage'. Could this lead to 'forum rot'? And ultimately to 'board cataclysm'?

Worry worry worry...

I didn't mean to be a complete twat when I mentioned Wormwood/anunakai etc - It's just that Wormwood is said to be a STAR that falls to Earth in the end of days. Just seems to me worth mentioning, that's all. From what I've read elsewhere, Planet X, Wormwood and Nemesis have a common link.

On an astronomical point of view, why is there so little research into it? If a brown dwarf emits 1/10000th magnitude of our Sun, surely that is still enough light to to get a good look at it and study its orbit - if we can see billions of light years to the edge of the big bang then I'm pretty sure we can get some decent data on Nemesis.

Don't worry about it, morgansolutions. These things happen.

But as far as there being a relationship between Nemesis and any Biblical/mythological/pseudoscientific "end of days" story, well, I don't know how to respond to that except to say that stars (actual stars, that is) don't fall. If memory serves you're talking about Revelation 8:11:

And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Now, I am not a theologian, but I'd interpret the "star" in this passage to mean a "falling star" - as in an metor. It was probably called "wormwood" because pure wormwood oil is a well-known poison.

The reason there is so little actual research (i.e. astronomical observations, etc.) on this topic is that brown dwarfs are cold and dark bodies in space, at least relative to other stars. We've only known that they exist since 1988. Most of the EM radiation they give off is localized in the infrared portion of the spectrum, which is why the Wide-Field Infrared Explorer satellite I mention in my first post might be able to detect it.

Another problem is that we don't really know where in the sky to LOOK for Nemesis, and the sky is an awfully big place to look. Muller's data is (essentially) based on geologic records, not astronomy, which is useful for detecting a general pattern but not for predicting an orbit.

The theory of a our solarsytem being a twin star system is nothing new.You look back to some of the ancient cultures,you`ll see that many of them discribed a starlike object in the sky.

If nemesis turns out to be true,this would truly be a major discovery in human history.