Proof Positive of Alien Comms

After reading all of the posts about this topic, and the lack of people willing to give it a try, I decided to give it a try last night. This was not without fear though. I had to talk myself into it since I wasnt sure what type of pandoras box I was going to open. Anyway, it was about 2:30am when I tried it. . and I have to say, it was the most amazing experience I have ever felt.

I decided to try it while laying down for bed next to my wife. She sleeps with a big box fan on, so wasnt sure it it would interfere with the process. . but gave it a shot. I laid down on my side, and tried to imagine the whole color thing. I was having a hard time doing it at first. Do I just picture the color as a whole, or do I envision the + and imagine staring at each color (if that makes sense). So what I started to do is think about a ping pong table with the colors in the respective boxes. I did this for about fifteen minutes with no results. I then decided to just drop it, and go to bed. It was getting late. . . and thats when it happened. I felt a shot of energy go through my body and it felt like I was floating. I then heard what I can only describe as a cross between running water and a the sound you used to get when dialing up your old modems. . except without the annoying screeching sound. It was definately a "stream" of static. . and it was loud. I then saw appear in front of me a guy talking. saying something, but I couldnt hear the words. . and it was only his head. At least the image was focused on his head. I tried to hear him talk, but couldnt hear through the stream of static. The whole time it felt like I was floating in black space. I remember feeling afraid when it happened. It had the feeling like I was being lifted up out of my body and being brought somewhere. . but I knew I was still in bed, so I kept with it telling myself not to succumb to my fear. After about three minutes it was over. . I remember feeling like I had been somewhere, and felt a little odd. My stomach started to hurt about five minutes afterward, and I couldnt get back to sleep for an hour. I kept feeling like what ever it was, it was tugging back at me to do it again. I also found it hard to NOT think of the color pattern afterward and had to replace the image with something else. I think work or something . Anyway, the experience left me a believer in what AA has preached. Something amazing happened. Did I talk to aliens? No . . but am I anxious to try again and "develop" it more? Yes indeed. . . . simply amazing. Thanks AA. . Im interested in what you think. Am I doing this right?

Hi amongus,
What you experiences via the exercise is what lot of members are, it the very top level of the useless astro plane, right beyond it lies the grays stream. The sound, the image staying with you, the stomach issue its all residue from raising your VL level. Its very hard to explain it and it is different for most people. The next time you reach this area, ask for a help; speak it in your mind ask to be shown the blue orb with the brilliant white light and follow it to the stream.

Dude once you have entered the stream you are going to have your “WORLD ROCKED” like you have never known.

That’s what I want people to post “their” experiences unobstructed and naked in there innocence about the experience.

People play once you reached this level if you are scared to enter the stream its ok, play with it man ask questions about things you have no idea about. Build up a relationship with the stream man give it a name call it radio station “AM 956 Grays” or what ever. Push the limits of your mind ask, inquire form a relationship with the stream. Poke it touch it taste it touch it….

Then when you are ready and only you know when you are; enter the stream and for the first time in your conscious being aware of yourself make “First Contact”. As I have said before once you are in the stream there will not NO denying what and who you are in contact with.

I also empower all of you who are not members of ATS but are experiencing this phenomena from this exercise to please share with us. The Truth will be know and no debunkers or skeptics will stop what is coming out in this avalanche folks.

AA

Originally posted by Alien Agenda
Dude once you have entered the stream you are going to have your “WORLD ROCKED” like you have never known.

Sounds like a new way of getting 'high'... Anyways, I'm going to consider your meditation and give it a try. Wish me luck

As a ufologist and spiritual medium of many years, I would like to comment on the basic premise of this thread, that the Zetan-Greys can be contacted through telepathic means in meditation.

Telepathic communication is the universal language of spirit, not of the flesh. Which is why even very intuitive people cannot develop telepathic ability that works with other people whenever they desire it. This is also why psychic abilities have traditionally been referred to as Gifts of the Spirit and not Gifts of the Brain.

No physical group of extraterrestrials can communicate telepathically with other incarnates any more than any channeler or medium can with those in the flesh

In light of this, there are really two facets that we are dealing with in regard to alien communication.

The first facet of alien communication is with incarnate aliens, typically the Zetan-Greys.

These are the physial aliens who pilot the cigar-shaped, spherically-shaped, and triangular-shaped spacecraft in our skies which are usually cloaked (optically invisible) through the generation of a strong electromagnetic field, and who routinely abduct many people here for medical experiments, a long-term breeding program, to use Homo sapien glandular extracts as vitamin supplements, and even for the purpose of human dissection. The last of these heinous acts have been found to be done in a manner which leads one to believe that the victim was kept alive for as long as possible; this happened to a US soldier whose dissected body was found a few days after his disappearance.

The physical or incarnate Zetan-aliens in their spacecraft are not spiritual beings, to say the least, and they generally treat people here like laboratory animals and slaves.

The second facet of alien communication is with discarnate aliens or alien spirits.

Within the category of alien spirits, there are those who promote the idea that there is a spiritual confederation of planets, that it is they who pilot the spacecraft we sometimes can see, and that they hold high positions in some sort of intergalactic government.

All of the above are deceptions which are done intentionally.

Why?

Because it is an EGO TRIP to them for incarnate people to believe that the alien spirits are important, high-ranking figures in some sort of intergalactic community. When in fact they are just a bunch of basically spiritual discarnates (at best) who are astrally united in a Group Entity.

Zetan-alien spirits also work through and around their incarnate Zetan counterparts to telepathically influence intended abductees to peacefully submit to Zetan kidnapping and subsequent subjugation. This is one of the ways one can tell intuitively that a Zetan abduction is about to be attempted.

So when I hear about people trying to communicate with incarnate Greys through telepathic means, I see it as an indication that alien spirits are once again furthering the age-old deception that they are the ones who pilot the impressive probes and manned ships that we sometimes see and film and that are all around us.

To be forewarned is to be forearmed.

Originally posted by 7Ayreon
What about considering Safety First.

Meditation is not an evil contrivance, but instead a wonderful method of self-improvement. As a method to open a 'channel' to aliens, it is, as far as I have read so far in this thread, still very much up in the air. However, as several members have said, it was a very positive experience.

I've been practicing meditation ever since the early 70's, attempting to use the method as a means to visualize images which I would then attempt to paint.

I'm only telling everyone this so that they can understand the harmless effects of the practice. I am not mad after nearly 40 years, nor has it driven me to drugs or psychiatrists.

But 7Ayreon brings up a good point...safety first.

Members have mentioned several aspects of physiological effects and expressed a concern. Because of this, I should point out what I usually experience...

- a 'blotting out' with colours'. Closed eyes will almost immediately begin to 'see' blobs of colours washing across the field of view.

- an 'off-centre' pinpoint of white light which moves whenever we try to focus on it. Very distracting.

- a feeling of disassociation. As I push away any thoughts (whats my dog doing, I need to pay the phone bill tomorrow, damn, the taps dripping again), they are replaced with a strange feeling which can only be described as 'being apart' or seperating myself from the world. This can be accompanied by a ringing in the ears or even a whining noise. I ignore any such thing because I think it is my conscious brain saying...HEY...where ya goin'? C'mon back here!!!

- a feeling, as someone already mentioned, of sleep paralysis. My body is making no moves whatsoever and the temptation to move something like a finger or your head becomes very strong. I ignore this as well as it is my conscious mind saying...Hey...you're not moving!! Whatsamatter...you dead?!?

- the best feeling of all...the feeling that you are shrinking. That is the point where I really know I'm in the zone and I LOVE to let that happen. It's at this point that I begin to really 'observe' what my minds eye is showing me. I let it run like a movie... relishing the show, picking through the visions and forcing my memory to record which might be important to me.

But, like 7Ayreon says, fore-armed is fore-warned, and Google is your best friend.

Look up some of the material online about the meditative process...medical journals, TM, whatever...

Edit to add Wikipedia site





[edit on 23-10-2006 by masqua]

hey aa,

it seems that people are getting frustrated, as i did, with the lack of explaination your are giving. these kinds of questions should have been expected, when you posted on this web site. people here question everything. and this is why i love to come here to ats.

i think it is time you talk about your agenda. what is the purpose of the exercise? i know, it is to get people to the stream. then what?

where you told to go get people to the stream? if so, why?

Paul_Richard
How do you know the things you speak of?

Masqua
During your meditation experience, have you experienced anything like AA is talking about?


I am wondering why the flamers in the thread are all non contactees. Where are all the ATS'ers that speak regularly of contact, where are their opinions?

Telepathy, By Definition, Is With Spirits Only, Not With Physical Aliens

As a ufologist and spiritual medium of many years, I would like to comment on the basic premise of this thread, that the Zetan-Greys can be contacted through telepathic means in meditation.

Telepathic communication is the universal language of spirit, not of the flesh. Which is why even very intuitive people cannot develop telepathic ability that works with other people whenever they desire it. This is also why psychic abilities have traditionally been referred to as Gifts of the Spirit and not Gifts of the Brain.

Hi Paul_Richard,
Thanks a lot for your very informative post above I will be honest took me reading it once or twice to grasp what you where conveying.

I cannot really intelligibly challenge what you have posted without stumping over myself so I wont try, but the only flaw I found in your posts in that we are in fact “NOT” communicating with the Zetan-Greys we are communicating with the “grays”. I have no knowledge of the Zetan-Greys you speak of although I would assume its what everyone think of a “grey” alien.
The grays are of the highest and purist species since the dawn of well whatever.

And comms are in the physical once you have entered the stream and understand more of what I have been babbling for 10 + pages. You see in the beginning it is “gifts of the spirit” until you are comfortable with the stream then brother it is “gifts of the physical”.

I am willing to bet that if you tried this exercise you might go further and faster than anyone that has tried it.

What do you think doc, give it a try and report back you experience.

AA

hi JSR,
no agenda at all I am simple providing a tools for people to communicate with the grays. I can't make people understand the depth of this you can only expereice is as there are no words to describe it.
The stream will provide proof posative, many folk are at the threshold they just need to reach out and ask for help during the exercise.

Originally posted by Alien Agenda
hi JSR,
no agenda at all I am simple providing a tools for people to communicate with the grays. I can't make people understand the depth of this you can only expereice is as there are no words to describe it.
The stream will provide proof posative, many folk are at the threshold they just need to reach out and ask for help during the exercise.

well, like i said, dont be agitated by people posting questions and the like. it should be expected in this web site.

oh what use has this contact brought you.

Originally posted by Prote
Masqua
During your meditation experience, have you experienced anything like AA is talking about?

Not quite the same thing, Prote, but fairly close. I have 'conversations' with certain people. Without going into too much detail, I believe it to be more 'daydreaming' than anything. Usually I have the feeling that I momentarily fell asleep and dreamt whatever episode I just experienced. There is a 'stepping back' I go through right after the exchange, as if I refuse to believe it actually happened.

The last time I meditated, I saw myself buying meat at the grocers. Large square bundles of meat at least 2x2x2 feet cubed and I was purchasing 7 bundles.

upon opening a corner on one bundle I found strands of hair, so I made sure that the store clerk deducted the items from the bill because I no longer wanted them.

Unless the clerk was a friendly Nordic, I don't think she was an alien. Pretty, young, dark hair, nice smile...perky type in a sensible brown flower print dress (on topic part)

I could go into more detail, but that was my most recent experience.

I'm less interested in communcation than I am with visions, though. I remember very well what those cubes of meat looked like but tend to forget about the verbal exchanges with whomever is in the vision.

Anytime that happens, like I said before, I feel that I have slipped from meditation into catnapping, and usually relegate such interactive visions as dreams.

The whole idea of meditation, to me, is to havea conscious part of me 'observing' whatever the 'minds eye' perceives. In dreaming, the conscious observer is mostly 'out for lunch'.

Not that it should be totally discounted, though.

Originally posted by minniescarAnyway the next morning i woke up and walked over to the bedroom window to see what the weather looked like and just as i peered out the window a crow slammed right into the glass killing itself. ( scared the hell out of me as i caught me by surprise ) I took this as a sign to go back to bed and watch tv. While watching tv another bird decided to take its life in the window next to me, then when i went to walk down stairs another bird in a different window slammed head first. This continued through out the day, a total of six birds sacrificed thier lives that day which i will say is pretty damn odd and freaky but i doubt it was the result of the exercise but i thought it worth mentioning.

This is most likely not related to the exercise you performed the night before. Ask your wife if she has recently been using Windex to clean the windows.

If it's a dream you will forget it usually within a short period of time. (minutes to days) If you have experiences you will remember clearly forever.

And AGAIN, AA totally ignores my posts. How about addressing my questions, friend?

If you are genuine, than there is nothing to fear. Or is it that you're afraid of being exposed as a fraud?

Please, do tell.

Originally posted by Reality Hurts
And AGAIN, AA totally ignores my posts. How about addressing my questions, friend?

If you are genuine, than there is nothing to fear. Or is it that you're afraid of being exposed as a fraud?

Please, do tell.

i think he has you on the ignore list.

Again, I think you are only looking for attention and "internet accolades", and that you have nothing but Snake Oil for sale in this thread.

I have no time to waste with every antagonistic post you write on this thread, I think your statement above speaks for itself.
You might want to join your other friends at Wal-Mart and by a telescope.
You made my ignore list.
AA

OK - then I'll ask for him: Hey AA: scroll back a bit and see if you can address some of Reality's questions. You know, for the well-being of all, etc...

Thanks...

Please repost them.

Thanks

AA

I have to say, I was VERY skeptical at first. . but figured what did I have to lose. After my experiences last night I can say that I will be changed forever. I dont know how to explalin it, but I really felt like I was on the cusp of something unimaginable. I would love to know how AA was informed of this method, and why (if we are to believe that this indeed is a way to contact the grays) they would want to communicate with us like this. Wouldnt we be pestering them, meddling in their business? This all sounds extremely "out there", but since I experienced it for myself I'm a believer in something. What, Im not exactly sure. But its almost like a drug though. I think about it all the time and I've only done it once. Something is pulling me to keep doing it, and I will again tonight. I'll report back tomorrow with results. Thanks for enlightening me AA. . . might I ask what you do for a living or what area you are involved in, as well as how you first came about learning this method?



[edit on 23-10-2006 by amongus]

AA: I think the questions reality is referring to are near the bottom of pg12. Of course, if you ignored him a while ago you may not see them - and, well, I guess we move just on?

BTW - just a gentle tip: ignoring all detractors may raise suspicions. Many observers are watching to see how you react to doubters; firm but civil? cave in like a marshmallow? snarl back in childish banter? Stick to the facts?

I'm not trying to tell you how to run your thread - aftar all, you got this wagon started. But as all can see, you now have formed a cadre of some believers, some experimenters, some refuseniks, some on-the-fence, etc. Give yourself a credibility boost and try and answer inquiry from truly curious the best that you can - truthfully, confidently, with conviction.

Repeatedly exiling cynics, pessimists, and even agnostics to "WalMart to buy a telescope" just doesn't do it anymore... It seems that WalMart's optics department is rapidly becoming overcrowded with AA-skeptics. If you are ultimately left with just a handful of the faithful, will you feel vindicated? Satisfied?

OKAY! 'nuff said! Let's get this Gray (or Grey) party started already!

Originally posted by observe50
If it's a dream you will forget it usually within a short period of time. (minutes to days) If you have experiences you will remember clearly forever.

This isn't a good way to determine what's just a dream and what's something else. Besides, dreams ARE experiences. And I've had dreams from 28 years ago that I STILL remember today. Specific ones with many details.

Since a good number of folks here seem to be having experiences from this meditation technique, I'd really like to hear why anyone thinks these experiences provide information that didn't just come from their own heads. Not that in-the-head experiences aren't fun and interesting, but I have yet to see any info posted here that clearly came from a higher being (or even someone with a real understanding of math and geometry).