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Originally posted by thelibra
It's funny you mention that, as Zen makes up the majority of my philosophical beliefs at the moment. I saw majority, because there's no way for me to know if Zen is exactly right,
Conspiracies are much like religion or philosophy, my friend.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by thelibra
Conspiracies are much like religion or philosophy, my friend.
Only as much as science (when properly used) is a conspiracy theory, religion, or philosophy. You can argue with that if you'd like but I'll go ahead and leave you to your desire for/contentment with total ignorance.
Originally posted by 2PacSade
Thax to all who have given concise statements to my original question. I'd like to gather more data, but I need specific requirements with respect to "What would it take to make you change your mind?". A straight to the point statement on any of the debated issues concerning 911.
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Originally posted by Amaterasu
We are headed into a Fascist, 1984 world.
Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Originally posted by Amaterasu
We are headed into a Fascist, 1984 world.
What's wrong with fascism?
As long as you aren't an enemy of the people, you have nothing to fear.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
For me to believe the conspiracy viewpoint......
1. I would have to disregard all the witnesses to the impacts of the jets at the WTC and Pentagon.
2. I would have to disregard the pieces of said jets found at each crash site (including Flight 93)
3. I would have to disregard the bodies of the passengers found at the Pentagon.
4. I would have to disregard the airline personnel involved that day.
5. I would have to disregard the phone calls made from airphones that day
6. I would have to disregard the COMPLETE statements made by NY emergency personnel that day (not the partial quotes used by so many).
7. I would have to believe that the US military (of which I am a proud member) would cooperate in something like this.
8. I would have to believe that thousands of workers in the WTC wouldnt notice the walls being torn apart and holes drilled for demolition charges.
9. I would have to believe that the "bad guys" were able to find perfect voice imitations to make the airphone calls that day, including those passengers that didnt know they were going to be on Flight 93 until they checked in at the airport, within the space of an hour and a half.
10. I would have to believe a arrogant human being who would state, I built something that could withstand a passenger jet hitting it. Although I would guess that he is a direct descendant of the gentleman that said he designed the Titanic to be unsinkable.
11. I would have to believe that THOUSANDS of people could be involved in this and NO ONE would talk.
BUT- The official story is also comprised of a very complex set of explanations. . . Some of which are just as suspect. . . That being said. How come 19 guys could pull off the official version when it would take thousands in your eyes to perform the contrary? I don't see why there would be such a disparity between the two? Thanx again!
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
1. I would have to disregard all the witnesses to the impacts of the jets at the WTC and Pentagon.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
2. I would have to disregard the pieces of said jets found at each crash site (including Flight 93)
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
3. I would have to disregard the bodies of the passengers found at the Pentagon.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
4. I would have to disregard the airline personnel involved that day.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
5. I would have to disregard the phone calls made from airphones that day
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
6. I would have to disregard the COMPLETE statements made by NY emergency personnel that day (not the partial quotes used by so many).
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
7. I would have to believe that the US military (of which I am a proud member) would cooperate in something like this.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
8. I would have to believe that thousands of workers in the WTC wouldnt notice the walls being torn apart and holes drilled for demolition charges.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
9. I would have to believe that the "bad guys" were able to find perfect voice imitations to make the airphone calls that day, including those passengers that didnt know they were going to be on Flight 93 until they checked in at the airport, within the space of an hour and a half.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
10. I would have to believe a arrogant human being who would state, I built something that could withstand a passenger jet hitting it. Although I would guess that he is a direct descendant of the gentleman that said he designed the Titanic to be unsinkable.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
11. I would have to believe that THOUSANDS of people could be involved in this and NO ONE would talk.
Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Originally posted by Amaterasu
We are headed into a Fascist, 1984 world.
What's wrong with fascism?
As long as you aren't an enemy of the people, you have nothing to fear.
Originally posted by Slap Nuts
You are military? What about all of these guys? Please impeach their statements ONE BY ONE.
patriotsquestion911.com...
Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret)...
You are military? What about all of these guys? Please impeach their statements ONE BY ONE
Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret)
One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’.
Col. George Nelson, U.S. Air Force (ret)
The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft.
Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret)
Regarding the impact at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001 "When you look at the whole thing, especially the crash site void of airplane parts