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Does anyone know the Kings views on Globalization or the New World Order? What are the Kings views on global politics?

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by khunmoon
Same time it is a country so incredible vertile and rich in commodities, that it's disgusting to witness how the wealthy few acts. They don't need aid, they need to learn how to distribute their natural wealth.

Strange, Tang-mo's family said they appreciated the gift and were able to buy new towels that they really needed. They also use donations for livestock, food, and other things we typically take for granted on a daily basis. Fortunately she's attending school to help her and her family situation. I'm sorry, I'd have a hard time in the middle of even a U.S. city walking up to a homeless person while wagging my finger and 'educating' them "You need to learn how to distribute your natural wealth". That's bogus

First, get it clear, this coup is definitely for the better. Cause I've watched the conditions for ordinary people go from bad to worse, the enviroment they live in rapidly detoriate, especially true for the heavily inhabited areas of the coastal regions and the central plains. I've watched conditions going from risky to hazarderous, from calm to frenzy. All due to profitering, the ugly face of greed let lose.

I wish you could smell the air of the central plains around the processing plants of agricultural products. They are known to be the worst polluters, manufacturing the ingridients for our food. Or see the color of the previous so idylic waterways of the Bangkok area. The dwellers there always used that water for washing and personal hygiene. They still do, despite it might be tainted in strange colors by the wastewater of nearby chemical plants. They might even work in the very same factories causing the menace to them, but they don't make enough money to have communual water-supplies led into their shacks.

Don't know excactly what you mean by "bogus". But is it a bogus to say, if they where educated they wouldn't stick up with such conditions? I'm of non-english speaking origine, so excuse me if I not understand or use the term correct. What I mean, NOBODY should have conditions like that - but that's what makes profits so attractive in this country. You don't have to pay for the damage your activity causes. Don't have to care about the enviroment or the welfare of your workers. You don't have to pay much tax. Don't have no NRA. You can put it all in your own pocket. They have a very strict social order, so no one will bother you, least of all your workers, their religion have taught them to be stuck with their destiny, and work harder to get a better one in their next life - by obeying to the social order. Pretty smart. Uh! Only education can change that.

Education is one of the blames put on the Thaksin-rule, for not doing enough for it. Sure enough money around to put up a contemporary schooling system. The one they have now, only teaches obedience to their rulers. They learn to read and write, that's about it. If you go to the free primary schools of the temple, you are likely to learn superstition only.

Educational reforms are needed. One of the issues to put Thaksin in office, as was his promise to put an end to corruption. He was a liar. It took five years, and some educated people, for the less educated to see it. The vast majority of non-educated will never be able to. The reason there's no great urge to press through any reforms, are a few families eating up a "natural wealth" that belongs to the country as a whole and could be used to highten standards of living and education - and the possessing families would still be very rich.
It's not right so, that's what I mean.

Let me finish by saying, I deeply respect what you are doing supporting a needy child, it's many times more worth than any taxpaid government aid. They often end up in the wrong pockets, you know where yours go.
I wish the best for you and your Tang-mo, and I'll be back for your other question.

[edit on 21/9/06 by khunmoon]

Thanks for clarifying, I think that gives me a better perspective. I was very careful in selecting a charity, reviewing many of them, reading their annual reports, studying their cashflow and contributions, etc. I can say Compassion www.compassion.com... does provide for the immediate needs (such as food, livestock and household goods) as well as investment needs like education to help lift them out of a difficult situation. I think the wise approach is to take care of both.

Your sponsored child lives in the coastal community of T. Samnaktong, home to approximately 5,200 residents. Typical houses are constructed of cement and have tile roofs. The primary ethnic group and language is Thai. The regional diet consists of bananas, chicken, guinea pig, fish, beef and rice. Common health problems in this area include malaria and colds. Most adults in T. Samnaktong work on plantations or as day laborers and earn the equivalent of $143 per month. This community needs drug abuse prevention programs. Your sponsorship allows the staff of Sangkalerk Student Center to provide your sponsored child with Bible teaching, scholastic materials, uniforms, educational classes, life skills training, recreational activities, soy bean milk, nutritious meals, camps, social events and field trips. The center staff will also provide recreational activities, social events and educational workshops for the parents or guardians of your sponsored child.

Compassion does encourage visitation as well. When I get the cost of the trip and time away from work taken care of, I'm hoping to do so.

I appreciate the insight and looking forward to hearing more.

[edit on 21-9-2006 by saint4God]

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by khunmoon
The biggest privat aid given on this earth is that given by middleaged western "sexturists". If not for that, this country would have been down the drain years ago.

And economizing via prostitution is not sending a country down the drain? I'm unclear what you're advocating here.

Thank you for your kind reply.

I'm not advocating, but objecting to the bigotry in the notion "sexturists".
You have to see it in a greater view of culture and history. Like I think niteboy did suggest.

The first thing you have to know is, in the context of their culture polygamy is perfectly ok. Up until 1920's it was legal, i.e. polygamy didn't die out as practice before the 50's-60's. There's both a social and a demographic reason for it going ages back. It helped secure the survival of women in times where no such thing as self-employment for a woman existed. Besides it would secure a genetic diversity, as it would add to the social status of any man taking more wifes. The kings of this country used to have hundreds, some suggest thousands, of mia-noys, "minor wifes", as it litteraly means. Though the practice is outlawed, any Thai man with selfrespect, will still have at least one mia-noy. Only difference, his wife can now nag him for it.

The demographic reason has to do with being a Buddhist country, it is compulsary for any man to attend to monkhood for shorter or longer terms. It's estimated up to 10% of the male population at any time reside in monkhood. Add to this Thailand has one of the highest demograpich surpluses of females born in any population on earth. Therefore the most common in rural areas is for the daughter to provide for the family. In their traditional culture it actually is the daughter who inherits the land. Thai men has always been seen as unreliable and lazy. Which I think rings true.

Therefore it has always been in the interest of the family for their daughters to get provided for, so they in turn could provide for the elderly and incapacitated members of the family. The best way to do that, has at any point been to get them well weded. Which leds to your question.

Personaly I agree with you. Yes, I think it will bring the country down the drain, but there's nothing degrading for a mother to send her daughter into prostitution, as long it will secure the provision of the family. A much greater disgrace is a daughter not to be able to take care of her old mother.

To let a daughter go to the market of "sexturists" is not seen as prostitution, but as a weding opportunity. Just bear in mind, the phenomenon should not be seen in a Christian context, it would be both wrong and prejudical.

As for the term "sexturist" I hate it and it's wrong. Elderly men often with broken families behind come here, more for the company of a spouse than for sex.
The term really says more about OUR society than THEIRS.

Despite the fact it cannot be read in any statistics, they contribute to a degree essential to keep this country afloat. But I'm glad that you, saint4God, have brought my attention to the help goodhearted people donate out of unselfish care for the needy here. I don't know how much that aid amounts, but it might run close to that old men bring.

basically,"A Coup" is bad,it promises you another coup in the coming few years.

Thailand now got a governmenrt like Myanmar's,it imposed martial law,torn apart the constitution.It said will be returned to democracy one year later,but never a military government in thailand gave up its power easily as they promised.

I think there will be big problems if their beloved king falls one day

[edit on 22-9-2006 by chao]

Originally posted by khunmoon
The first thing you have to know is, in the context of their culture polygamy is perfectly ok. Up until 1920's it was legal, i.e. polygamy didn't die out as practice before the 50's-60's. There's both a social and a demographic reason for it going ages back. It helped secure the survival of women in times where no such thing as self-employment for a woman existed. Besides it would secure a genetic diversity, as it would add to the social status of any man taking more wifes. The kings of this country used to have hundreds, some suggest thousands, of mia-noys, "minor wifes", as it litteraly means. Though the practice is outlawed, any Thai man with selfrespect, will still have at least one mia-noy. Only difference, his wife can now nag him for it.

Rightly so, I think. I believe there is something naturally wrong with polygamy, all laws aside. If the wife is the least bit uncomfortable with the idea (and listening to interviews indeed they are to a great degree troubled by it), any wife-respecting husband would forego law, culture or tradition to honor and respect her desire for emotional fulfillment. That's the core of love.

Originally posted by khunmoon
The demographic reason has to do with being a Buddhist country, it is compulsary for any man to attend to monkhood for shorter or longer terms. It's estimated up to 10% of the male population at any time reside in monkhood. Add to this Thailand has one of the highest demograpich surpluses of females born in any population on earth. Therefore the most common in rural areas is for the daughter to provide for the family. In their traditional culture it actually is the daughter who inherits the land. Thai men has always been seen as unreliable and lazy. Which I think rings true.

Therefore it has always been in the interest of the family for their daughters to get provided for, so they in turn could provide for the elderly and incapacitated members of the family. The best way to do that, has at any point been to get them well weded. Which leds to your question.

I'm appreciating this perspective, and am grateful you're sharing it here.

Originally posted by khunmoon
Personaly I agree with you. Yes, I think it will bring the country down the drain, but there's nothing degrading for a mother to send her daughter into prostitution, as long it will secure the provision of the family. A much greater disgrace is a daughter not to be able to take care of her old mother.

So you're saying prostitution is the only way to acquire money?

Originally posted by khunmoon
To let a daughter go to the market of "sexturists" is not seen as prostitution, but as a weding opportunity. Just bear in mind, the phenomenon should not be seen in a Christian context, it would be both wrong and prejudical.

Understood, I'll stick to the basics of morality rather than a theocratic perspective.

Originally posted by khunmoon
As for the term "sexturist" I hate it and it's wrong. Elderly men often with broken families behind come here, more for the company of a spouse than for sex.
The term really says more about OUR society than THEIRS.

Despite the fact it cannot be read in any statistics, they contribute to a degree essential to keep this country afloat. But I'm glad that you, saint4God, have brought my attention to the help goodhearted people donate out of unselfish care for the needy here. I don't know how much that aid amounts, but it might run close to that old men bring.

Thank you for being willing to see this point

Some data on the money:

Total dollars through Compassion.com (which is only one charity among many) =
$158,371,465 child programs + $15,075,883 for sponsor/donor ministries totals 83.2% of total program composits.

I don't know how much goes to Thailand (trust me I'm trying to find it ) but Tang-Mo receives $29.12 out of the $35.00 sent monthly and 100% on additional gift giving.

What I'm doing is very, very little in the grand scheme of the world, but hopefully others will be encouraged to join in. Find a charity that has top ratings, financial accoutability, willing visits, gift giving, letter writing, and strong education programs. If you find it to be World Vision, Christian Children's Fund, whatever, if you make these accountabilities, no doubt each of us can make some kind of difference for at least one person's life.

At Compassion we take stewardship seriously. That's why more than 80 percent of all our expenditures go to program activities for our children. It's also why we insist on:

Annual audits to show exactly how our income is used
Regular audits for our country offices
Program audits to evaluate the effectiveness of our child development programs in the lives of children

Annual reports & Form 990 tax forms (every penny is here) also available
www.compassion.com...

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