hard to belive.....

Hmm Net chicken, research out (because I'm not going to bother) the theory that Moses was in fact the Son of Amenhotep, because there are a lot of similarities.

And as for you wetdog, I've never said anything about there being no god, you obviously missed some key points of Masonry.

And I'm interested to hear Toltec's ideas of "My system of belief" or would that be more your father's rather?

But yes...it is indeed my OPINION that Jesus was in fact a Lord, or at least someone of personage, I don't think anywhere I was stating that it was the ONLY truth, however Rosicrucians hold the same belief, and their research into it far surpasses my own, perhaps I'll be replying in the future, with more decent arguments

Sincerely,
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Gee... Freemason where are you in so far as status/position in "your" system of belief? Truth is a very young man who needs to learn to make better responses. You on the other hand seem educated enough so as not to require that type of training. My father died in 1985; to this day I still regard his ring as something special (you know which ring I am talking about freemason, the gold one with the same image as your avatar reflects).

Truth is a simple target but the fact of the matter is no one really hates his presence. The problem we have with him is in relation to him not living up to his own expectations (pray you do not do the same).

Its not a matter of better responses Freemason, its the honest ones we protect

A word of advice reviews carefully the post prepared (made the past). Also if you wish to represent yourself as a FreeMason do so to its extent. Their are those here who feel your kind has and is the cause, of much of the problems we face today. While this is not something I agree with, my impression is it is you who have something to prove.

Truth is I post late and in a hurry which can cause minor discrepencies :p I'll try to avoid them more in the future...

hmm sorry about your father...I am curious though, was his ring one that can open, or just the symbol?

Sincerely,
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Gold ring with the symbol set in an oval shape

Mark 3 says explicitly he was a carpenter: the Greek is completely clear: "ho tekton ho huios tes marias": the carpenter (root of architect of course and possibly not just wood as we'd understand it to-day) the son (of the) Mary.
Nowhere else is anything said at all -so why would one dispute this?
You'll read any manner of guff about "hidden meanings" allusions from Isaiah to the Odyssey; but nothing with any Biblical foundation that isn't largely the product of the person spouting the guff.
Is this "conspiracy"??

Mark 6:3 of course, blasted cheap keyboards and maddening drivel-posters: too much for a mere Estragon when these are combined.