A look at Killtown's websites.....

Not wanting to call anyone out or anything but it has been suggested on the board that one of us who believes the "official story" should look at Killtown and start a thread. So here goes....

June '01 - Attorney General John Ashcroft stops flying commercial aircrafts because of a 'threat assessment'

Ummm he didnt stop flying commercial at all

www.nj.com.../news/ledger/stories/20040414_ashcroft.html

I can personally attest to this, as Mr. Ashcroft came to speak at my church in July 2001 and he flew into town on a commericial flight.

Even Michael Moore removed this from the first version of "Fahrenheit 9/11" after his fact checkers discovered that Mr. Ashcroft had continued to fly commercial.

Sept 13 - Airplane passenger lists from all four hijacked planes list no Arab names.

Yes based on the CNN story appearantly. What they neglect to say is that the lists CNN used were the VICTIMS on each flight, not the manifests. (Which DID show each of the terrorists, save Hani Hanjour)

Firefighter Louie Cacchioli in elevator going to 24th floor hears a bomb go off
and thinks bombs were set in the building.

Mr. Cacchioli is a bit peeved about being misquoted by People Magazine on this point.

Originally, on September 12, 2001, People Magazine ran a few short paragraphs about the 20-year veteran New York fireman hearing what sounded like bombs exploding in the north tower.

Short and sweet, that was it. A few short words about bombs exploding, but words that were repeated over and over again in story after story by writers and broadcasters who never even bothered to talk to him in the first place.

Furthermore, Cacchioli was upset that People Magazine misquoted him, saying "there were bombs" in the building when all he said was he heard "what sounded like bombs" without having definitive proof bombs were actually detonated.

www.arcticbeacon.com...

He entered the elevator with the last company that went up. They went up to the 24th floor or the 22nd floor and the company was getting off. I think it was the truck company at that time, because he grabbed the last guy getting out, who was the irons man and he said "You gotta stay with me, because I need tools in the elevator

At that time, the doors closed and that's when the power went out. Which, what we found out later was when the south tower fell down. They were able to force their way out of the elevator and for some reason the guy from the truck, from 13 truck, went to the right and he went to the left and found a stairwell and he was able to make it out.

Q. Who is "he"?

A. Louie Cacchioli

graphics8.nytimes.com...

Commissioner Stephen Gregory along with a Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 say they both saw multiple flashes coming from the lower level of the WTC 2 right before it collapsed and mentions the flashes they saw are like what you'd see when they 'blow up a building.'

Except they neglect to include the FULL quote from Mr. Gregory.....

www.nytimes.com...

he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down".

Getting a bit late and about out of characters for this post. I'll look at the other sites tomorrow.

Great work!

You have voted Swampfox46_1999 for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999

... Cacchioli ... said was he heard "what sounded like bombs" ...

www.arcticbeacon.com...

Commissioner Stephen Gregory... saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down".

www.nytimes.com...

So it this more like what you are looking for?

Addressing 3 out of 231 items in probably 5 or 10 minutes certainly deserves a WATS.

I could point out a few more myself, such as the Tom Kenney bit, but so what? To use the Tom Kenney bit as an example, even though the specific notion that Tom Kenney was in Manhattan with FEMA on September 10th is false,

9. Sept 10 - FEMA rescuer Tom Kenney says he was deployed to NYC late Monday night before going into action Tuesday morning, the day of the attacks.

FEMA was in Manhattan on September 10th, setting up command posts for the terrorist exercise "Tripod II":

12. Sept 12 - FEMA was scheduled to participate in an attack drill in NYC.

We know this because Rudolph Giuliani told us this at the 9/11 Commission Report hearings.

So, just as the above shows, individual reports that have come out may have been often flawed or misinterpretted on rather trivial points, the message sent by a horde of suspicious "coincidences" is undiminished.

Look at all the freaking exercises and war games alone. You had them at the NSA HQ (exercise involving a plane flying into a building), all around Washington and the East Coast in general (fighters diverted, radars tied up with false blips), FEMA in Manhattan setting up a base on the day before 9/11 for Tripod II, and you even had exercises and heads-ups with certain organizations in the WTC Towers, including one that was simultaneously having its CEO escorted to an airforce base by military officers.

What are the chances? All of them on 9/11, all of them in key locations, and all of them so amazingly relevant to the when-where-how of the whole event!

So many like to throw Occam's Razor around, well this would be a great place to make use of it. This isn't a physics issue, where science can be easily employed. Are these exercises and war games and warnings all separate, unrelated events that just happened to occur together by pure coincidence? Or should we make good sense of it all by looking at it from the perspective that all of these things were PLANNED to coincide?

Which explanation is less reliant on randomness and extreme probabilities? We should consider it in the context of other evidence and information.

All of that alone should indicate something was up, not just from extremists from elsewhere, but within our own country.

[edit on 6-9-2006 by bsbray11]

Killtown uses the Michael Moore method. Group a bunch of items, provide no explanation and let other people's brains run wild with conspiracy. Toss in a few out and out lies and look out.