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Originally posted by ArbitraryGuy
(many argue that the oil shocks led to inflation, but I argue that they were not the root of it).
Originally posted by apocalypticon
The fact is (imho) that the uncontrolled influx of unskilled labor, in the context of an overwhelmingly non-union work environment does contribute to a weakening of income in these areas. I have no hard statistics for this belief; only the observations of a skilled worker in the Trades for the last 30+ years.
Originally posted by Gools I think the case for resources being at the root of all economic activity is a strong one.
But hey, everybody knows that the "free market" is god, even though Adam Smith never really argued for such. Right?
Originally posted by Gools
Originally posted by ArbitraryGuy
(many argue that the oil shocks led to inflation, but I argue that they were not the root of it).
I'd like to hear more about that argument. I think the case for resources being at the root of all economic activity is a strong one.
Originally posted by Gools
Originally posted by apocalypticon
Don't forget the effect of essentially "open borders"....
I have no hard statistics for this belief; only the observations of a skilled worker in the Trades for the last 30+ years.
I think the statistics and economic theory do support that. The thing is, North America is becoming a free(er) market and more people means more wage pressure.
Originally posted by Gools
But hey, everybody knows that the "free market" is god, even though Adam Smith never really argued for such. Right?
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Originally posted by ArbitraryGuy
Thanks for your interest in such a discussion, Gools and apocalypticon.
Originally posted by apocalypticon
I won't even try to pretend to be an economist or anything like that; my undergrad was in History. I have just seen the decline for the newer (say...last 10 years or so...workers) workers as far as wages are concerned.
Originally posted by apocalypticon
We are a nation of immigrants...and each generation has exploited the cheaper labor force of succeeding immigrant generations.
Originally posted by ArbitraryGuy
What gets me is why, although wages have stagnated for the past 30 years and quality of life (for Joe T. American) has decreased, workers aren't more peeved or more open and militant about the issue of declining/stagnating wages.
Originally posted by Aelita
Another thing is education.
Originally posted by Aelita
If the wages go up, American product will become uncompetetive in the world markets, and we have already seen some of that.
Originally posted by Byrd
Social Security was started because of the appalling conditions of poor elderly workers. The story is too long to go into here, but it's interesting reading.
Originally posted by Byrd
As to the charts, have they been adjusted for inflation and other factors?