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What I mean is... in the "CONVENTIONAL" war against Iraq, the US had no problems with the Iraqi ARMED FORCES, that was what they were trained to do..to win a Regular Conventional WAR & they did that!!! Now As far as keeping the country together & stopping Iraqi people & terroist from killing Us & their own people etc after the WAR ,thats another story..the US forces was not trained to really do this.
Originally posted by Daedalus3
Conventional war as opposed to nuclear war, not assymetric warfare..
depends on how you define conventional.
Originally posted by rogue1
NO, obviously your english isn't that good - so now you are saying it wasn't justified ?
Well they weren't sold, simple as that.
Come on provide evidence. You always say what you say is well supported by evidence yet time and again you refuse or cannot find teh eveidence to back yourself up
Oh right right, yet you cannot find anything to support you How typical.
LOL rigth, so hundreds of thousands of East Timorse were killed by US made weapons given for free. I thought you said you lived in reality.
I suggest you do some reading about teh Viertnamese War and the hundred os thousands of civialins who were brutalised and murdered by the VC and NVA.
Himan decency yeah right.
Next you'll be saying that apaertheid in South Africa was teh decent thing to do by humanity
Originally posted by StellarX
Well they weren't sold, simple as that.
They were and the Vietnamese are still paying back some of the money to this day.
I have provide more than sufficient evidence but why should i always do so when you never ever bother defending your vapid views with actual factual material?
Actually what i said is what happened anjd if you do not like it i can hardly change reality to fit in with your preconceived notions.
LOL rigth, so hundreds of thousands of East Timorse were killed by US made weapons given for free. I thought you said you lived in reality.
It's the truth sadly enough even thought i should have used the Turkish example as the money trail behind the Indonesian arms leads first trough some European countries. Research export credits if you want to figure this out before i once again embarrass you with facts you wont like.
Actually that was down by the Southern forces in South Vietnam against their own people and did not happen in the North. You really must do some actual research before you say these ludicrous things!
Well since i stick to the truth i wont be saying that any day soon.... What i will say is at the very least one can say that the various rulers of South Africa never tried or never found enough interested to start a non stop genocidal campaign like those launched against American Indians or Australian Aborigines.
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Originally posted by rogue1
SAys you, I thought you also said that Puitin forgave this imaginary debt as well
Can't you remember what you write or is this just another typical example of you contradicting yourself ?
Yet you provide absolutely no factual materials here at all to support your statements.
So we are just to believe your word ?
Right so you say, yet you have no nformation about it NOrmally rou're a whiz with google, yet you don't even provide your usual fringe sites this time.
Actually you are quite wrong. You only emabarass yourself.
You love your throw away statements, we have all become wuite sued to them, but hey keep going I like a good laugh.
Actually no, the NVA and VC committed many atrocities in South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.
You obviously haven't researched the war at all, because your statement that the NV were some enlightened force are quite stupid
LOL, only reason was because the white Afrikaaner scum were outnumbered and international outrage would have quickly put an end to their barbarous regime.
Interesting you mention the Aborigines ( which there are still many around and there was never a genocidal campaing - Idiot )
and American Indians, they all happened in much less enlightened times.
Yet the barbourous Afrikaaner scum did all this in the 20th century right up until the 1990's -
what monsters.
posted by INC2006
Native Americans were slaughtered and killed, millions over millions were killed, they moved them from "conservation" to another, and by conversations I’d bet it was some sort of forced labor camp or a make shift tent camp that wouldn't even protect against rain or wind, just like what was done in Russia by Stalin, just like what was done to the Jews with Hitler . . you might say racism is over [in America], but I’m telling you even if it's not racism there is still that prejudice, that hate and looking down on attitude in America on the impoverished . . “ [Edited by Don W]
Chief Joseph: "I want to have time to look for my children, and see how many of them I can find. Maybe I shall find them among the dead. Hear me, my chiefs! I am tired; my heart is sick and sad. From where the sun now stands, I will fight no more forever." en.wikipedia.org...
posted by wildcat
One thing is I think that the Soviet [Russian?] National Anthem is far greater [better] than the United States’ one. It has pride and enthusiasm in it but as for the American, it's more like a woozy cry baby one that puts tears in your eyes. Soviet [Russian] one sounds like it's harder to play than the American. And I say this living in the United States. [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by donwhite
posted by INC2006
Mr W, that is a sufficiently innocuous opinion that you need not worry about finding yourself secretly declared an “enemy combatant” and confined to Guantanamo Bay on an indefinite basis.
[edit on 11/6/2006 by donwhite]
Originally posted by wildcat
Originally posted by donwhite
posted by INC2006
Mr W, that is a sufficiently innocuous opinion that you need not worry about finding yourself secretly declared an “enemy combatant” and confined to Guantanamo Bay on an indefinite basis.
[edit on 11/6/2006 by donwhite]
Oh I'm not worried, it's called freedom of speech and if it's repealed, then there would be automatic rebellion.
Originally posted by INc2006
numbers of NA have severely went down since the first time europeans set foot on the americas. there might have been 10's or 100's of millions of them then, now in N america Numbers of NA are barely maybe 2million at max. anyhow i have posted about the Native americans and the trail of tears before on another post. thanks for reminding me this time.
Originally posted by INc2006
dude, so just because NA killed the aboriginal people means that what the Americans done to the NA is justified, by that your saying that the holocaust was justified because the Americans done it before. so please.... count to 10 before you answer, just cause somebody stole a car doesn't make it right for you to go steal a car...
Originally posted by devilwasp
I dont mean to sidetrack or change the topic here but does anyone know where I can get information on what branches of the russian military, security service and interior ministery women can join?