Hezbollah, It's Payback Time!

Not funny or serious? Dead-pan? Ironic?

Originally posted by subz
Not funny or serious? Dead-pan? Ironic?

yeh... probably deadpan.

seems more like it.

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Originally posted by MrMicrophone
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Hezbollah, It's Payback Time!

Originally posted by MrMicrophone
Do I actually hear American’s whining about the treatment of Hezbollah by Israel?

Too many of you don’t remember that the greatest American body counts before 9/11 came from 2 separate terrorist attacks attributed to Hezbollah. If you are upset about Israel bombing neighborhoods in Lebanon, just remember that the residents allowed those Hezbollah cowards to set up shop there. Hezbollah on the other hand doesn’t have any qualms about shooting rockets indiscriminately into Israeli neighborhoods where there are no IDF troops stationed, but plenty of kids playing in the street.

As for me, “Go Israel!” They understand that the first war they loose will be their last!

P.S.: I don’t think it is any coincidence that an ancient book of Psalms was discovered yesterday in the UK. It was open to Psalm 83 when it was discovered:

"For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth. Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."

And western soceity see pios muslims as fanatic.....While this chritian evangelist is using words of the bible to condone the killing of humans.

Shameful.

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"And from that time onward, the people of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God. And the nations will know why Israel was sent away to exile -- it was punishment for their sin, for they acted in treachery against their God. Therefore I turned my face away from them and let their enemies destroy them. I turned my face away and punished them in proportion to the vileness of their sins.

From this wildly popular post that I made here:
politics.abovetopsecret.com...'

See, not even god is pro Israel, but you, mrMic, think that just because god is/or may be going to save Israel at the last minute, and that the Jews supposedly are the 'chosen ones', that does not make Israel without sin no matter what it does, therefore it only makes sense to critisize where criticism is due, I mean Heck, even god is willing to turn a blind eye and let Israel be punished, do good people deserve punishment?

All quotes by MrMicrophone:

As for me, “Go Israel!” They understand that the first war they loose will be their last!

You cheer for them, as if god approves this behavior, I laugh at you, because you call yourself a person of god, are you that, or are you a religious poser? You take sides, not because of what you believe, but some book says that god uses Israel as an example to the rest of the world, just like a judge will sentence someone harshly to a crime to send a message to the others contemplating the same crime, do you root for the guy who got time for the crime and think he rightious, even if it was a murder or something, because the judge CHOSE him?!

I suggest you go back to the seminary and get some new lessons regarding what Jesus actually taught because you surely have no clue.

If you went back to Sunday school, the kids there can maybe teach even teach some adults some religion. The kids their have a pretty good idea about what the Jesus guy stood for, certainly not the things going on now.

Look, I hate war, but regardless of what you or I think, God has a plan for Israel and He has a plan for those who hate Israel, not my plans, His. Also, if someone was lobbing rockets into your back yard, are you telling me you wouldn't do what ever possible to take out the threat?

So, if you dislike what Israel does and hate their politicians, god will punish me, or them?

No wonder I'm an agnostic.

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Originally posted by MrMicrophone
Do I actually hear American’s whining about the treatment of Hezbollah by Israel?

Too many of you don’t remember that the greatest American body counts before 9/11 came from 2 separate terrorist attacks attributed to Hezbollah. If you are upset about Israel bombing neighborhoods in Lebanon, just remember that the residents allowed those Hezbollah cowards to set up shop there. Hezbollah on the other hand doesn’t have any qualms about shooting rockets indiscriminately into Israeli neighborhoods where there are no IDF troops stationed, but plenty of kids playing in the street.

As for me, “Go Israel!” They understand that the first war they loose will be their last!

P.S.: I don’t think it is any coincidence that an ancient book of Psalms was discovered yesterday in the UK. It was open to Psalm 83 when it was discovered:

"For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth. Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna: Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."

Dude Please if you like to read the bible please do. But I will ask you to also pray for the Inocent people dying in Lebanon and Gaza every day. If you think they are no inocent people in those areas, think about the young ones. If there is another solution besides killing should we put it as a Priority or should we go with the "Easy" way and just retaliate. Is there a plan on this attack or is this just a Political move by the new prime minister of Israel.

If you are religios person as I think you are how do you think your God will judge this actions?

Whatever religion you follow don't become a puppet of powerfull men who dont represent your values as a human beign.

Kinda funny how one of these super christian (near freakish) types cheers for the Zionist Israeli goverment (yeah, Zionist, not your general Jewish, Israel is run and governed by a Jewish Religious sect who's teachings have some heavy contrasts to what your general Jew believes in) bombing the # out of a country who's population is 40% CHRISTIAN

Originally posted by thematrix
Kinda funny how one of these super christian (near freakish) types cheers for the Zionist Israeli goverment (yeah, Zionist, not your general Jewish, Israel is run and governed by a Jewish Religious sect who's teachings have some heavy contrasts to what your general Jew believes in) bombing the # out of a country who's population is 40% CHRISTIAN

That has got to be the sanest and eye-opening comment I have read on this whole mess this week...have a WATS and a cold-one on me!

You have voted thematrix for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month

Before someone goes "where did you get that % number it can't be true":

www.cia.gov...

From the horses mouth to your ears, in other words, from the CIA world facts book.
The best source of this kind of statistical info you can use when speaking with an american imho :p

ps. thanks dude timsky

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I support Israel and I want to ask, why did Lebanon allow Hezbollah to operate in their country? Why did they refuse to take any action against this terrorist organization? Did they not expect that there would be consquences?

Originally posted by laiguana
I support Israel and I want to ask, why did Lebanon allow Hezbollah to operate in their country? Why did they refuse to take any action against this terrorist organization? Did they not expect that there would be consquences?

As stated by man analysts if the Lebanese government did full comply with resolution 1559 that it could of encited another civil war in lebanon. Also to say that Lebanon should comply with U.N. resolutions, with-out question.
Look here politics.abovetopsecret.com...' Israel does not comply with the U.N. ever so why should lebanon?


By the way its funny how people who are pro-israeli have to say they 'surport israel' while the people on the other side of the arguement surport no one. So which arguements are more biased?

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That makes no sense, how did Lebanon comply? Hezbollah continues to use Lebanon as their headquarters. Hezbollah is the only one to blame here, and Lebanon should take responsibility in making sure that terrorist organizations are not given any grounds to operate. Israel is doing what it must, I don't see how anyone could hold them responsible for defending their country. And so what if I or anyone supports Israel? Is that a problem? That doesn't implicate that all supporters of Israel are biased. What non-sense.

Originally posted by laiguana
That makes no sense, how did Lebanon comply? Hezbollah continues to use Lebanon as their headquarters. Hezbollah is the only one to blame here, and Lebanon should take responsibility in making sure that terrorist organizations are not given any grounds to operate. Israel is doing what it must, I don't see how anyone could hold them responsible for defending their country. And so what if I or anyone supports Israel? Is that a problem? That doesn't implicate that all supporters of Israel are biased. What non-sense.

As i said Lebanon did not fully comply with the resolution. You did not read my post carefully.
Actually look at the thread i provided and read the whole thread, when it shows the violations of human rights page. I would like to see how you defend israel's actions. Well yes it does, if your support Israel it does make you biased, just like if i was to support hezbollah (which i dont) i would be biased. To say that you acturly surport one side denotes yourself as biased.

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