The Elohim-do you think they created us?

reply to post by Raven18

thats a very interesting quote i think these Gods youre talking about are fallen angels

reply to post by shapeshifter116

you think you are an elohim
thats special

[edit on 6-7-2008 by iesus_freak]

reply to post by shapeshifter116

so you think that lucifer is a reptillian and God is an elohim interesting and not far off from a lliteral biblical perspective

actually lucifer was a cherub(could be reptillian) and yes God is a member of the elohim

remember in revelation and daniel the serpents and stuff are just SYMBOLS of satan

and the snake in eden a tool of satan

reply to post by Raven18


I believe in an entirely different Elohim, I dont think they are human or from another planet.

I also have to disagree with the translation of Elohim, it derives from El and as far as I know has nothing to do with the sky.

From my understanding of certain biblical passages like Psalm 82 and passages in Genesis, Elohim, Bnai Elyon or Bnai Elohim may be punished to become incarnate and mortal or temutun. G-d directly threatens them in Psalm 82 and tells them they will fall like the Sarim(Angelic Princes) and die like Adam if they don't judge the earth properly.

There are plenty of passages in the Bible about the Sabaoth(Host of Heaven) who I'm pretty sure is the same as the Bnai Elohim and Bnai Elyon. Its pretty much explained in many of the prophecies in the Tanakh that the Sabaoth will be destroyed by G-d in the Last Days and some kind of war will take place in the heavens.

What ever this mortal form they are punished with, its not exactly human. It may look human, but it would best be described as a different species. I base this on the description of the hybrids produced between them and humans. The description in the Book of Enoch and in the Bible of these Nephilim are one that actually fit a known scientific phenomena known as Hybrid Vigor or Heterosis: en.wikipedia.org...

The Nephilim are described as being larger, stronger, and infertile in the Book of Enoch. A real world modern example of this would be the hybrid offspring of Lions and Tigers, which can average twice the size and weight of their parents. They are also infertile.

Think about this, a rather large Lion is around 500 lbs. A rather large Tiger would be in the 600 pound range. The average Liger is over 1000 lbs, with some specimens weighing over 2000 lbs. They are literally giants compared to their parent species. They are larger, stronger, and infertile.

I won't get into the details but I think there are chromosome differences between that mortal form and what humans have.

I also disagree with the Raelian view on Jesus. He brought up Psalm 82 in his defense before the Sanhedrin. I wont go into the implications of that here, but if there is any truth to it....well it might be mindblowing.






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reply to post by iesus_freak


So what about the Nehushstan? The Bronze serpent on a pole that Moses carried and that Jesus compared himself to?
en.wikipedia.org...

Or what of the Seraphim? Who may of been serpentine based on the word used to name them.

I wouldn't automatically conclude that serpents and serpent symbols are evil.

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