Lets Talk About The Bible.....

Where did it come from.....................

Who were the real writers...............

The Catholic Church..................

Khazar Jews....................

Muslims.....................

Eastern Religions...

Wiccan Views..........................

Pagan views...................

Down Home Mother Mary...

The Playwright Jesus.....

Communion of the Saints............

If anyone wishes to debate any of the material on this thread with me, please note that I may do so if appropriate and if I have the time, but always on a civilized level... I will not respond to threats, insults and intimidations..... Or curses by the acursed........................

Let the Fun/Thrills/Love begin and set the 'prisoners' free.....

Ave Maria ! Lolove n luck n good sex/emotions/passion/health......Infinity

[edit on 3-7-2006 by georgejohn]

[edit on 3-7-2006 by georgejohn]

To start you might want to TRY and be more serious instead of putting a "humorous" slant on it... Playwright Jesus? Down Home Mother Mary?

It's almost as if you get a rise out of posting things you see as taboo, like a child.

Where did it come from?
It came from ONE place... Yet it came from every place

Who were the real authors?
It was essentially and finally authored by ONE mind... Yet it came from all minds.
as to the physical writers, well, originally it was the disciples who sat down to record what happened after he died, than it was copied and added to and subtracted from until we get it today... pretty much the same thing is said, just watered down... it needs to be boiled down again...

One thing I think we need to do is stop recycling old knowledge and constantly going over it, you can NEVER learn anything else... it's more healthy to go back over things than to hold on to them so dearly that it is always there, u have to let things go for a time and come back to it after obtaining new knowledge

We also need to stop worrying about such trivial things WE KNOW we cannot prove or disprove.. .we need to wander into the world and find things HERE and NOW that we can prove and disprove with our current science and technology and over-all human know-how...

We all have to see that from our supposed millenium crash until around 2020 or a bit earlier we [have been / will be] in learning over-drive, so many NEW conspiracies so many new theories for the world and quantum mechanics.. so many epiphanies towards religeon and human understanding are going to take place that it will shake the earths foundations, we need to be preparing for this... the rest is trivial.. for example, if you were told I'm going to hit you, and I wrote a book about it, explaining I'm going to hit you, I might fake it a few times so you don't know when its really going to happen.... But are you just going to totally disregard my warning and my book?.... even if it is a bunch of hoop-law... and what if you'd never seen me before, but always hear a bunch of other people talking about how much pain I *can* inflict... would you still say who cares? would you worry about the trivial truths in my book? or would you prepare yourself for the impact? would you arm yourself ? What would you arm yourself with if you knew I was a million times more powerful than you?... perhaps learn how to become powerful, I ass-u-me?

perhaps if the lie was who the characters were in the book?[The God who created our world and everything in it.. actually being Satan and not knowing his home or his father]? being a 'jealous' god.. having no others before him?

Why would you want to become powerful enough to "arm yourself"... because the person you thought was God was not, sure he created you, but out of ignorance, we are his good fruit, which bought him redemption, although he will try to destroy us, but The Lord God promised us it would never happen again, after he saved Noah by warning him of Satans plan (the rainbow is the promise)...



[edit on 3/7/06 by dnero6911]

To start you might want to TRY and be more serious instead of putting a "humorous" slant on it... Playwright Jesus? Down Home Mother Mary?

Don't mean to 'humorous'or 'Humorless'...Just The Facts... that the Playwright Jesus wrote a 'SHOW' and the 'producers' n 'editors' n 'cast' ...it is said... have messed IT up.................

Down Home Mary...well she is a 'home girl'...from 'mother earth'...from its 'bowels' in the flesh... so to speak...........and a whole lot of 'folk' chat/dance/fly/etc on many 'astral' plains n 'mental' plains n more.....with her !

Thanks for the 'in-put'...lol

Lolove n luck n good sex/emotions/passions...ave maria ! home-girl indeed !

Originally posted by georgejohn

To start you might want to TRY and be more serious instead of putting a "humorous" slant on it... Playwright Jesus? Down Home Mother Mary?

Don't mean to 'humorous'or 'Humorless'...Just The Facts... that the Playwright Jesus wrote a 'SHOW' and the 'producers' n 'editors' n 'cast' ...it is said... have messed IT up.................

Down Home Mary...well she is a 'home girl'...from 'mother earth'...from its 'bowels' in the flesh... so to speak...........and a whole lot of 'folk' chat/dance/fly/etc on many 'astral' plains n 'mental' plains n more.....with her !

Thanks for the 'in-put'...lol

Lolove n luck n good sex/emotions/passions...ave maria ! home-girl indeed !

I refer to my comment..

It's almost as if you get a rise out of posting things you see as taboo, like a child.

Why wouldn't you just come out and post your opinions instead of leaving them like a set trap waiting for someone to comment so you can unleash your madly inspiring ideas... To be stuck in a fairy land in your head while the rest are in hell isn't doing Gods work, you must understand where you are and know your feeble words of love n luck is useless, luck is non-existant for one, and if you believe in God to believe in luck is stupid, and two you have to embrace the ugly, love the bloody, so your comment on good sex/emotions/passions is none-the-less misguided, its an ideology, along with my stances too but by and by yours are more foreign to someone living in what they consider the real world... You have to find a way to relate it to the degenerates to the bloody and the rapers... Right now we've created a fence... you seclude yourself with the other 'lovers of false goodness' how can you portray that happiness and luck n' love to a homeless person? by chanting a few good sex/emotions/passions? or by kissing your home-girl?

by dnero6911
To be stuck in a fairy land in your head while the rest are in hell isn't doing Gods work

soooooooo, ur head is in 'hell' and you are enjoying it ?mmmm...

love the bloody, so your comment on good sex/emotions/passions

urs are more foreign to someone living in what they consider the real world...

sooo you are the 'spoke-person' of the 'real' world ?mmmmmm

Looking/traveling through 'good n evil' with 'home girl'/Immacculate Mary is the way to 'Travel'........................ok ? 'Blood' !

Lolove n luck n good sex/emotions/passions...ave maria ! get down !

[ohhh...'home boy'/ Jesus ! talk-to-me !.............Infinity ]lol

by dnero6911
luck is non-existant for one,

You do seem to get 'hung' up on the 'word' 'luck'...maybe you can find a 'nice-jewish-boy' from Brooklyn to answer you...lol

ma·zel tov also ma·zal tov (mäzl tôf, tôv, tv)

from www.thefreedictionary.com...

Also it seems as if you want people to ride with you in your 'Hellfire n Brimestone' worlds that you do seem to be sooooo fond of...is it that you are 'trapped' in a 'curse' and have grown to 'love' the 'curse' and want others to share in your-daily-bread ?

Well thanks again for your in-put and do hope others will feel free to make their views known...and the 'bullies' will restrain from 'their curses'...

Lolove n luck and you know the 'drill' ! Ave Maria ! OMG !

[edit on 3-7-2006 by georgejohn]

Originally posted by georgejohn

If anyone wishes to debate any of the material on this thread with me, please note that I may do so if appropriate and if I have the time, but always on a civilized level... I will not respond to threats, insults and intimidations..... Or curses by the acursed........................

Ill take Catholic Church for 1000.

This is just my two cents worth and isn’t meant to provoke anyone, so here goes.

When it comes to religion, I think we often argue about the wrong things. I am not a Christian or a Buddhist, but I see there is some wisdom in both.

Buddha taught about the man who was shot with an arrow. I don’t know the story word for word, but it goes something like this:

This man who was shot with an arrow asked, “Who shot me? Where was he standing? What sort of bow did he use? What type of wood is the shaft of the arrow made from? Is the point of the arrow made from bone or from stone?”

These questions did nothing to relieve the man’s pain and the answers would not get him any closer to getting the arrow out of his chest. Shouldn’t he have been asking, “How am I going to get this thing out of my chest?”

When we argue about who wrote the Christian Bible or whether or not God created the world in 6 literal days, we may be asking the wrong questions, and just like the man with the arrow in his chest, we are likely to die before all of our questions and debates are fully settled.

One person can believe the arrow tip is stone, and another can believe that it is bone, but the two people can sit and argue about it and accomplish nothing…

or they can put their differences aside and unite in the common cause of removing the arrow.

what you meant by statement , guess u mean Jeopardy [?]

by Mizar
Ill take Catholic Church for 1000.

since I turned off my TV's over 3yrs ago with 'compassion' to those on it but couldn't stand/take the mind-control 'programs' anymore and did notice that my precious mind was clearing/cleaning up the 'programs' that had been installed by TV..........[had been watching it since '49' more or less]

Question: it is said that 'Our Lady of Fatima' asked sister Lucy on 6/13/29 [if I recall the date right] that the Pope with all the Bishops of the World should 'Consecrate Russia'[together] to her Imacculate Heart and a era of Peace would be given to the World...now John Paul 2 and other Popes claimed that, they were great lovers of Mary...soooo why didn't they do the 'Consecration' ???

fatima.org... get info here and I don't agree with all that is said on this site as well as any site I post, for the record...lol

Would you say that it is a Vaticn conspiracy ? Do you think the Freemasons are running the Vatican or is the Vatican running the Freemasons ?

[BTW grew up playing on the grounds of Saint Josephs Seminary of the Archdiocese of New York...just alittle 'chit'...lol ]

Lolove n luck n good sex/emotions/passion...Ave Maria ! Her Highness ! as well as down home mary/sis/goddess..... Infinity

[ www.thefreedictionary.com... ]

That is something I can not answer as I do not have access to the vatican arcives.

by wellwhatnow
or they can put their differences aside and unite in the common cause of removing the arrow.

ohh yeah or removing the 'Sword' from Marys Heart n looking at 'good n evil' with the Imacculate down home mary as it should have been done, if the 'Show' wasn't messed with...[kissing her toes in 'Astral' Times Square n sliding in there next to brother JC on her breast for some 'milk'] lol

Ohhh so sorry, forgot in orignal post in this Thread to ask for the....
Gnostic views.....

So jump on in on areas related to the Bible...

If anyone wishes to debate any of the material on this thread with me/us, please note that I may do so if appropriate and if I have the time, but always on a civilized level... I will not respond to threats, insults and intimidations..... Or curses by the acursed........................please brothers n sisters... Infinity

Ave Maria ! Lolove/laughs n good sex/passions/emotions/health/joy

by Mizar
That is something I can not answer as I do not have access to the vatican arcives.

well you do now, bro...
asv.vatican.va...

Lolove n you know the story ! ave maria ! wow !

Originally posted by georgejohn

by dnero6911
To be stuck in a fairy land in your head while the rest are in hell isn't doing Gods work

soooooooo, ur head is in 'hell' and you are enjoying it ?mmmm...

Definately NOT, my head isn't near a hell or a heaven, it is in the moment. [See my meaning?]

love the bloody, so your comment on good sex/emotions/passions

urs are more foreign to someone living in what they consider the real world...

sooo you are the 'spoke-person' of the 'real' world ?mmmmmm


You're the one giving me the title 'spoke-person' .. of the 'real' world... What I'm trying to establish is that you need to remove your head from the clouds and enter the moment, whatever it tends to be and see the most in that. No real world, just the fact that the real world is comprised of many scenarios, its fine for your head to be in the clouds, but it shouldn't be torn away from it because 'this hell' is 'testing' you with dead infants and disease running rampant. It's because of these clouds of heaven and these grounds of hell that the moment slips us by thru-and-thru...


Looking/traveling through 'good n evil' with 'home girl'/Immacculate Mary is the way to 'Travel'........................ok ? 'Blood' !

I don't even know what yor talking about here... travelling with your home-girl.. ?? ground yourself before you talk to grounded people, your speaking another language within english which is hard to understand for those who haven't taken the journey.

Lolove n luck n good sex/emotions/passions...ave maria ! get down !

[ohhh...'home boy'/ Jesus ! talk-to-me !.............Infinity ]lol

[edit on 3/7/06 by dnero6911]

by dnero6911
I don't even know what yor talking about here... travelling with your home-girl.. ?? ground yourself before you talk to grounded people, your speaking another language within english which is hard to understand for those who haven't taken the journey.

well try to bro.....now ur the 'spokesperson' for grounded people???...I'm 'grounded ! ...heard it said that a 'ground out' can mess things up
in the flow of the 'juice' of fire in appliances ...n more

sooo you are the 'spoke-person' of the 'real' world ?mmmmmm

there was/is a question mark there, home boy...lol

your speaking another language within english

Geeeee whiz, happy not to be speaking 'Illuminati' english but sure try to speak 'home boy' [american] style...lol

Lolove n luck etc..........ave maria ! down home ! [listen, when in a 'truck driver' style mode, nice 'goodies'! [Holy Spirit will speak in the language that you understand the best !]....Infinity

[learn 2 'bookmark' n 2 use the dictionary n other references...bookmark the 'baby' ! ]
www.thefreedictionary.com...

Originally posted by georgejohn
since I turned off my TV's over 3yrs ago with 'compassion' to those on it but couldn't stand/take the mind-control 'programs' anymore and did notice that my precious mind was clearing/cleaning up the 'programs' that had been installed by TV..........[had been watching it since '49' more or less]

Around 15 years for me. That is the way to truly 'detoxify' the system, no doubt!

...soooo why didn't they do the 'Consecration' ???

Well, simply because they were men, little Lucy a girl who adored a woman, and men don't listen to women, even the 'Mother of God.' If it is not their idea, they just aren't going to go along with it.

If God had a mother, for real, they'd probably call her a whore, instead of a virgin, since I doubt they'd be willing to say God the Father has a father! Funny how things change, from one generation to the next, huh?

Their bloody teared icon is not a bad thing--but it certainly isn't what they say--they don't know any real Mary's, because Miriam starts and ends with 'revelation' and there is the 'wicked' in between.

mem resh mem (in the hebrew)

Would you say that it is a Vaticn conspiracy ? Do you think the Freemasons are running the Vatican or is the Vatican running the Freemasons ?

Probably more like an earthbound circle jerk, but that's actually just speculation. Those things don't hold my interest in the least. But I'm sure someone might know.

Originally posted by georgejohn

ma·zel tov also ma·zal tov (mäzl tôf, tôv, tv)

from www.thefreedictionary.com...

[Mishnaic Hebrew mazzl ôb, good luck : mazzl, constellation, destiny (ultimately from Akkadian manzaltu, mazzaztum, position of a star, from izuzzu, to stand; see w1 in Semitic roots) + ôb, good; see yb in Semitic roots.]

Hmmmmm...resurrection made possible by the bright and morning star, the root and offspring of David?

Mazel Tov

I like that.

[edit on 7/3/2006 by queenannie38]

by queenannie38

Well, simply because they were men, little Lucy a girl who adored a woman, and men don't listen to women, even the 'Mother of God.' If it is not their idea, they just aren't going to go along with it.

If God had a mother, for real, they'd probably call her a whore, instead of a virgin, since I doubt they'd be willing to say God the Father has a father! Funny how things change, from one generation to the next, huh?

Well they do n did n the 'pharisees' still call her that [whore] as they turn the 'little' marys into 'Babylonian Whores'...as the 'real' cat, Jesus waits for the 'cats' to stop going to the 'babylonian lioness' aka as 'the Babylonian Harlot' aka as the mother-governments/relgions/etc and come to the real 'lioness' in us-all n be feed right...and let the 'Groom'/Playwright do His Thing/Show to the 'Bride-in-us-all-in Maria'...get down ! water 'horses' here.....

GOD has a Mother [as God has everything, its all Gods] n He gave the Role of 'Mother-of-God' to Maria n of course, Father-of-the-world-to-come to Jesus, the Son-of-GOD who came in the Flesh of the BVM...HIMSELF ! all praise, thanks, glory etc to HIM.....Infinity

LOLove n luck n good/great sex/emotions/passions...Ave Maria ! The Empress !

Probably more like an earthbound circle jerk

[very funny n on-the-'money' ! ]

Edit...Yeah, and if dont have that 'swing', it dont mean a 'thing !...lol

[edit on 3-7-2006 by georgejohn]

Now your being ridiculous, picking apart my words to find things you can actually respond to, I was merely trying to inform you that being stuck in one way may not benefit you, but you'll realize that, falling from heaven is hell.

I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to add a piece of vital information that might help your journey through rough times... since your mindset of heavenly bliss won't stop these things from happening ... I understand the question mark, but the idea, the word spokesperson was thought of by you... the question and word came from you, therefore I took it as a lable because words don't come from no where.

and now I'd like to comment on your PRE-judging of my decent and intellect. concerning my comment about speaking another language within a language.. what I meant was, that there are experiences (drug or otherwise) that are very difficult to explain to the average person.. correct? (jerk) well explaining those things is hard so sometimes we have to speak another language within a language to instruct people.... thats what I was talking about but obviously you aren't 'learnt' enough to have discovered this phenomenon exists...
another thing is, I'm NOT american... I 'live' in Canada... but would hardly call myself a Canadian, or a part of this planets idea of a society, I live on EARTH, Terra, whatever you choose to call it, more than that, I exist in MY moment, which is here and now and I use the information about the past and future to make sense of the NOW and I try to not exist in a fairy land idea of heaven or hell, rather I exist in a state that I create for myself with the tools I was given... AND I would hope that any God in my place with my knowledge would do the exact same.

Originally posted by georgejohn

by dnero6911
I don't even know what yor talking about here... travelling with your home-girl.. ?? ground yourself before you talk to grounded people, your speaking another language within english which is hard to understand for those who haven't taken the journey.

well try to bro.....now ur the 'spokesperson' for grounded people???...I'm 'grounded ! ...heard it said that a 'ground out' can mess things up
in the flow of the 'juice' of fire in appliances ...n more

sooo you are the 'spoke-person' of the 'real' world ?mmmmmm

there was/is a question mark there, home boy...lol

your speaking another language within english

Geeeee whiz, happy not to be speaking 'Illuminati' english but sure try to speak 'home boy' [american] style...lol

Lolove n luck etc..........ave maria ! down home ! [listen, when in a 'truck driver' style mode, nice 'goodies'! [Holy Spirit will speak in the language that you understand the best !]....Infinity

[learn 2 'bookmark' n 2 use the dictionary n other references...bookmark the 'baby' ! ]
www.thefreedictionary.com...

[edit on 3/7/06 by dnero6911]

[edit on 3/7/06 by dnero6911]

by dnero6911
Why wouldn't you just come out and post your opinions instead of leaving them like a set trap waiting for someone to comment so you can unleash your madly inspiring ideas...

soooo you have gone 'mad' again in your 'hellish 'fairy tale' 'reality' that you are warning me about...

I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to add a piece of vital information that might help your journey through rough times... since your mindset of heavenly bliss won't stop these things from happening ...

or is 'sorcery' or a 'curse' or 'jealousy' or is it REALLY just your version of your god [john 10:34]...ohhh n please no name-calling n then accusing me of being 'nasty' if I answer in same style... lol..'peter'...hope u can understand the in-put...lol...

and now I'd like to comment on your PRE-judging of my decent and intellect. concerning my comment about speaking another language within a language.. what I meant was, that there are experiences (drug or otherwise) that are very difficult to explain to the average person.. correct? (jerk) well explaining those things is hard so sometimes we have to speak another language within a language to instruct people.... thats what I was talking about but obviously you aren't 'learnt' enough to have discovered this phenomenon exists...

geee n here n there you were/have accused me of talking another or various forms of 'Illuminati' english [ that quote also is a good reason that so-many are afraid to post but I'm telling 'em', post baby n learn as you go to type n spell n also there are plenty of 'brothers n sisters' that will help you here in u2u n emails, just reach out n let your 'fears' go and take that One-Big-Step in your 'Forums' etc journey...rap-on...or dont let the high-sounding confused/trapped in 'their trip' brothers n sisters bother your sweet butt...[love that...kisses] ]

Lets 'travel' into the many 'dimensions' of Astra/Mental Worlds' n more and know that 'Big Sis' is just a prayer away n will come running baby if you have given it up to her and her Man...nothing to worry about as 'little sis theresa' is said to have said, 'its heaven all the way to heaven'...

Lolove n luck n good sex/emotions/passions/postings...Ave Maria ! down home ! aint no mountain high, aint no valley low gonna keep me from you baby !..Infinity

Playwright Jesus? Down Home Mother Mary?

would you prefer JC and the boys and Mary wit da cherry?
This argument can be condensed into two basic arguments. That of many historians
and quite a few Gnostic points of view. That Jeshua was of the Royal line of David
and was illegitimate ( in that he was born at the wrong time according to royal tradition
and custom and "legitimized by" The Angle Gabriel or the HP of the Order.")

OR

Mary was shaggin a ghost,Phantasm,SPOOK,entity of questionable existance and/or origin.

OR

as some have pointed out, she did give birth to several children woh were all refered to as " the Sons/Daughters/ children of MARY, not as was customary
bar Joseph, or children of Joseph. This would of course mean that the immaculate conception and virgin birth could be redefined as the immaculate DECEPTION.

It is related in the Apocrapha that at a young age Mary( wtc) was "given over to the temple" to serve and be trained in the temple. Given that the particular temple is not identified there exists the possibility that it was of the same order as the temple at Capernaum with its order of priestesses. It was to this order that Mary M belonged. There is some indication that she succeded Mary(wtc) as High Priestess,
and was succeded ( upon her marriage to Jeshua) by Mary's sister ( also called Mary?). This raises the possibility that what we today think of as a meer name was
in reality a title or designation of position.

On a side note the priests of the temple @ Jerusalem refered to this order of Priestesses as " Temple Whores". Perhaps out of jealousy , perhaps as a reference
to something akin to Hiero Gamos?

OR

as has been proposed by another group Mary ( wtc) was the original NT street whore.

It came from ONE place... Yet it came from every place

At the risk of being redundant, to quote several people to numerous to mention
and a quote that has been in the public domain at least 20 years that I know of.

" The Bible did not arive by fax from heaven. It was written BY men FOR men."

This man who was shot with an arrow asked, “Who shot me? Where was he standing? What sort of bow did he use? What type of wood is the shaft of the arrow made from? Is the point of the arrow made from bone or from stone?”

Actually these questions make perfect sense for the time and place. during the period that archery was prevelent there were no local constabulary ( think of modern criminalistics and the Holy Trinity of same (( Motive , Means , Opertunity)) and the
direct questions asked in relation to the same,((who,what ,when,where and ,why.))

The type of bow could be an identifier as could the construction of the arrow.( I direct your attention to " the grey goose shaft of Robin Hood Legend, and The Black Arrow
of RLS's Black Arrow ( and some RH legends). Every archer( at least that I know) has their arrows marked with a crest or identifying mark of some kind.

One person can believe the arrow tip is stone, and another can believe that it is bone, but the two people can sit and argue about it and accomplish nothing…

hardly likely as the methods of construction and weight of the two materials are quite
dissimilar.

[edit on 4-7-2006 by stalkingwolf]