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Originally posted by doctorfungi
Put it this way. There are NO cameras in your house. If you are going to do something private - do it at home.
You are in a public place. Expect to be watched.
Originally posted by interestedalways
AnneStacey, what if the perpetrators of the children gone missing were actually victims of the powers who protect us? David Icke suggests similiar goings on.
Originally posted by interestedalways
Can we? Then why aren't we. Statistics show that known family members and friends are the main cause of children being harmed and kidnapped, molested and abused. Cameras won't help that. Kids who are taken out of their own yard by strangers won't be caught on camera unless they are living on the corner.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
I dont need a big brother and niether does anyone else. I dont need a weapon and do not own one, but if I felt threatened and needed an equalizer I would certainly do that instead of taking everyones freedom to ba a carefree American apple pie eating person that I am.
Originally posted by annestacey
Speak for yourself. There are a lot of dangerous and stupid people in our society who need to be watched. And I would appreciate them being watched... even if that includes watching me.
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Originally posted by LoneGunMan
I agree and know there are a lot of bad monkeys mixed with the good ones, but 99% of society are good. Anne are you going to tell me you never have done, or wanted to do something...colorful when people are not around? I dont want to feel like someone is whaching me all the time.
You know Anne if the 99% of society were able to defend themselves, the remaining 1% wouldnt dare attack a society member of good standing. Sure you will see some accidents, but you will see less violent crime than if cameras were the only deterent. If you are that afraid buy a small weapon and learn how to use it.
Originally posted by annestacey
I disagree with your percentages. I honestly feel that the bad monkeys in our society are much more than 1%.
The sick and twisted people are mostly dumber than dirt and if they want to attack someone... they will... regardless of who's watching. This is already evident with the crooks who rob convenience stores knowing there are cameras watching them.
And to be honest with you... if I want to do something colorful and it's not going to get me in legal trouble... then I'll do it and not worry about who's watching. But remember that the colorful things can be done in areas outside of the cameras... you don't have to be colorful on a city street ya know!
The sick and twisted people are mostly dumber than dirt and if they want to attack someone... they will... regardless of who's watching. This is already evident with the crooks who rob convenience stores knowing there are cameras watching them.
Originally posted by interestedalways
AnneStacey, I do understand where you are coming from in your stance. I used to feel as you do until I realized what was going on. If we could be kept safe by cameras and security I would be more open to the extreme position of no freedom and the idea of "if you don't have anything to hide, why worry"
It just isn't that easy. We have been fed a strict diet of fear for a really long time now from the media and we have bought into believing that there is no other recourse besides giving up our freedom to move and be without fierce restriction. There is something much bigger at stake here. It is hard to see through the veil of fear for the safety of our loved ones and ourselves.
We are treating symptoms, not root issues.
I wish I could make a better case for my beliefs, just know that people who are so accepting of this Big Brother mentality have been groomed for years to accept what is being proposed. It isn't what it seems to be, this embarkment of Socialist government and a tolatarian society.
Remember the movie about Anne Frank? That is what comes to my mind for our future in this country.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
You re probally right about the percentages, but its not as bad as the media makes it out. You answered your own question about if the cameras are needed or not.
The sick and twisted people are mostly dumber than dirt and if they want to attack someone... they will... regardless of who's watching. This is already evident with the crooks who rob convenience stores knowing there are cameras watching them.
So why have the cameras? I'd just beat the crap out of them, but you can always make yourself equal to a threat if the crap beating thing is not an option for you.
...areas outside the cameras...heheh
Originally posted by annestacey
So then we're back to a society of animals fighting for survival. That's why there has to be some sort of governmental control. Not everyone can fend for themselves. The more out-of-control society is... the more reason the government has for just giving us all a bullet in the head.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
I saw this in another thread, you could get one of these new cell phone guns
[edit on 1-11-2006 by LoneGunMan]
Originally posted by annestacey
I do feel that something needs to be done about the population growth. I saw recently that the morning after pill called Plan B is now available over-the-counter which I think is a very good move.
Of course, a lot of women don't even think about birth control and just keep having kids without a thought as to how to raise them properly.
What are your thoughts on this?
Originally posted by LoneGunMan You know Anne if the 99% of society were able to defend themselves, the remaining 1% wouldnt dare attack a society member of good standing.
Originally posted by annestacey
This whole idea of everyone carrying guns to defend themselves reminds me of the Mad Max movies. Of course for me, it would be more like "Tank Girl". What if you can be trusted with a gun but your neighbor can't? Whose to say he's not gonna get drunk and start firing at pedestrians?
Originally posted by annestacey
This whole idea of everyone carrying guns to defend themselves reminds me of the Mad Max movies. Of course for me, it would be more like "Tank Girl". What if you can be trusted with a gun but your neighbor can't? Whose to say he's not gonna get drunk and start firing at pedestrians?