you ever think that you are already in heaven or hell?

When people always discuss about heaven an hell, what kind of places those are and other things.
I have thinked that whatabout we are already in one of those...
what do you think?

the same idea can be applied towards dreaming, and "a matrix" but yes, i do at times ask where am i. the answer is, i really dont know, i can say im on earth, but how do i know that what i touch is real? etc.

I can tell you this for certain: if this is heaven, heaven is highly overrated.

Yes, you are in heaven. This is God's kingdom as is everything that we know of, and not know of.

Hell is what people put themselves through for not realizing they are part of God and the Holy Spirit resides in each one of them.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm fairly certain I'm in hell.

calling this heaven is the biggest overstatement i have ever heard...
i feel pretty certain that i am in hell...

Thinking about the things that are going on right now in this world.....I think it definately resembles some sort of hell. . . . yet beauty surrounds us on this planet just as much as destruction. Although the balance is slipping fast.

I don't know about you but, I'm on Earth, neither Heaven nor Hell.

Originally posted by Cearbhall
I don't know about you but, I'm on Earth, neither Heaven nor Hell.

heres a thought provoking question,

how do you know your on earth?

Here you go: why call it Earth and Jabba Jabba World or Hooply Doo!

Originally posted by Cearbhall
Here you go: why call it Earth and Jabba Jabba World or Hooply Doo!

no i was serious, how can you prove, that we are on "earth"?

You just have to go by the multitude of learned men and ther studies and what they called this place that all the animal and plant kingdom reside.

how do you know what you see is not fake? how do you know we are not in a dream world? the truth is you don't know, seriously, quit trying to think you can.

My senses help me figure out that the world it isn't fake. How do you know we are in a dream world? Prove to me it is fake, everything around me. I'm sure learned men and women could prove to you this place is real, before you could prove it is fake.

Originally posted by Cearbhall
Prove to me it is fake, everything around me...

then i ask you, prove to me it is real, and if you prove it i shall surrender upon this subject.

Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem

Originally posted by Cearbhall
Prove to me it is fake, everything around me...

then i ask you, prove to me it is real, and if you prove it i shall surrender upon this subject.

good point, how do we know this is real or fake?? coz someone told us that is was and the things we learnt at school??

we could be living in somesort of dream world, but i don't know where to begin in explainin it

Everyone must realize that everything that we see, feel, touch, etc. is an ILLUSION. It is held together by God. This keyboard that I type on, the glass I drink of, etc. they are not really solid material. If anything was and the atoms in such objects actually touched they would explode in a chain of combustion.

This is the power of the father.

Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem

Originally posted by Cearbhall
Here you go: why call it Earth and Jabba Jabba World or Hooply Doo!

no i was serious, how can you prove, that we are on "earth"?

That's what we named it. It can't be wrong. Everything is illusion. It's all in your head. Without your brain, none of it would exist.

[Edited on 10-23-2003 by Satyr]

Help me, I am in Hell.

perehaps we got those "good things" cause we are going to lose them...


Thou its not that there is only a pain and suffering in hell.
Pain gomes from lost of beaty, You might be surrounded good things but soon they will disappear, Die or be destroyed.
Its kind of stupid to think that "pain" or hell is just that you are being tortured in hellfire.
That idea what i try to tell is like love, You are in love whit beautiful wonderful human (thats the surrounding beaty what some ane told) but then you cannot have her love. Then she is gone (suffering, pain) i dont know did i make it clear but i try tell better then later.
(yep i think im in hell too)



[Edited on 23-10-2003 by Hanza]

[Edited on 23-10-2003 by Hanza]