If this New upcoming technology is NOT from reverse engineering....

then i give up on everything, lol. I read Colonel Philip Corso's Book, and he definitely mentions this in there.


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Originally posted by whos_out_there
then i give up on everything, lol. I read Colonel Philip Corso's Book, and he definitely mentions this in there.

So? It's not so hard to see what technological breakthroughs are going to be made, just think of something we can't do now, but which would be kinda cool, and bingo, it's in the future.

how would HONDA reverse engineer alien technology? Did the government just hand over alien crap and say, hey, do whatcha can? Sounds unrealistic.

So? It's not so hard to see what technological breakthroughs are going to be made, just think of something we can't do now, but which would be kinda cool, and bingo, it's in the future.

SO...SO...?? thats not something that has been created before. its not something thats been improved, and this is definitely not one of those stupid scooters they were all raving about either) this is something original never been done b4 AND wireless (no bluetooth no RF) just using good old brain power. i mean they still haven't invented the dick tracy watch and thats been out for decades in the comics, lol, or the flying car WHERE IS THAT!! HAHA, but i guess youll be one of the ones when they see a UFO finally, will just act like its supposed to be there, and go on your merry way to work.

Originally posted by Ryanp5555
how would HONDA reverse engineer alien technology? Did the government just hand over alien crap and say, hey, do whatcha can? Sounds unrealistic.

Honestly do you think or are that ignorant (not to insult you) to think that UFOS only crashed or landed here. Come on think about what ur saying, were not the best and greatest and everything you know as much as id love that. Think about it.

but i guess youll be one of the ones when they see a UFO finally, will just act like its supposed to be there, and go on your merry way to work.

No, of course, you're right. Klingons are real too, I seen them on tv.

Sometimes you know, I think humanity gets a raw deal. Do you think that ET came down and showed us how to build the wheel as well? I put the above down to good old fashioned smart human ingenuity. I mean, I know smart humans are dying out, but hey, they're not dead yet, so let's not rob them of their achievements.

quote from the article:

"The machine for reading the brain patterns also would have to become smaller and lighter - like a cap that people can wear as they move about, said ATR researcher Yukiyasu Kamitani."

I guess you missunderstood the 'wireless' brain controll a litte. You need some electronics put close or direct on the head to read the brain pattern.

The problem is that most people think that something, like this new way of controlling robots, are new technology.

The fact is that almost anything of this kind is the result of years and millions spent by lots of people working hard to try to achieve what they, or others, imagined.

If this news piece had appeared before the Aibo, the Asimo, etc. then it would have been a great surprise.

Asimo is the result of 20 years of work by Honda, it is nothing that has appeared from in a moment, and they say that they need at least 5 more years to put the "mind reading" capability in Asimo.

Also, most of the advances are in the way of controlling the robots, the major developments have been made in the software, not the hardware.

Originally posted by whos_out_there
i mean they still haven't invented the dick tracy watch and thats been out for decades in the comics, lol

They have invented it.

But now they call it "cell phone with digital video cammera"

The underlying tech is MRI... a Siemens or GE patent if I'm not mistaken. Honda "the idea company" took the mag res output of a human flexing a hand decoded it (made a map) and encoded it to effector mechanisms in a mechanical hand... impressive but not alien science, nuclear science... pretty old too. Honda and ATR are to be saluted for seeing the potential and exploiting it. Their next goal is reducing the MRI componentry to a "skull cap" - I'm not sure that's doable; ever seen how big an MRI unit is? And the electrical power it pulls? I'm glad this stuff is still only research phase. But who knows eh?

The real significance of this application of known human tech is that the human brain can be mapped and produce afferent output to a machine in a known and predicatable manner without surgery. Amazing huh? Now the bad news; there is no feedback loop, that is, one can use the brain to send commands without surgery but NOT receive data the same way. Sensory input can not be transfered back. Thank God. Unless something along "Montauk" von Neuman tales are true.

The peaceful and "helpful" application of this technology are wonderful potentials. But the use for less peaceful purposes is also great...

Victor K.

[edit on 25-5-2006 by V Kaminski]

Aren't we forgetting simple economic factors here?

1.) what is the likelihood of such technology being both cost efficent in manufacturing and widespread use in order to generate a profit?

2.) Are people "ready" to incorportate such ideas into a functional way of life?
Is the time "ready" to introduce such items into the market?

3.) What are the social reprocussions of making such technology widespread - we've already seen how the new cell phone towers have generated everyhting from headaches to suspicions as to their "true nature".

As far as reverse engineering is concerned, I have long suspected that the technology that is being heralded as "new achievements in mankind" have been based on ideas that have been around for years, decades - possibibly millenia. The truth of the matter being that we have just come into awareness of how to actually manifest these ideas in reality.

It would be very arrogant of us to assume that we are the originators of such technologies (the ideas, not the labors) but at the same time to speculate on where the ideas originate in the first place might defeat the planetary evolution that is underway.

Just a theory - not an established fact.

And yeah - I'm a little ticked off about the two way wristwatch not catching on. After all - they DID have a television in a wristwatch back in the late eighties. It just never caught on because the screen was so darned small.

Oh yeah - one more case in point - why develop personal technologies when so many people use the ones we currently have for such stupid means - i.e. computers soley for the aquisition of porn, cameras for the same, webcams for the same, hidden cameras for invasion of personal privacy (i.e. use in restrooms)....a large percentage of the populace is already showing that they don't intend to use their technotools for anything other than base and self gratifying purposes at the expense of the dignity of the human spirit.

I'd hate to think what would happen if true technological marvels were unleashed prematurely -

THE FLYING CAR? Heck - we still have people who drive without insurance and under the influence. Could you imagine these idiots with air space? Not a good idea.

Originally posted by g210

quote from the article:

"The machine for reading the brain patterns also would have to become smaller and lighter - like a cap that people can wear as they move about, said ATR researcher Yukiyasu Kamitani."

I guess you missunderstood the 'wireless' brain controll a litte. You need some electronics put close or direct on the head to read the brain pattern.

I definitely didn't think it was completley wireless. what there describing is what witnesses in the past have mentioned more or less.

Lets just say that the real thing is wireless (know one knows for sure, of course), this thing is only in the first stages, like a fisher price version of what is to come. Plus this is how most products (pretty much every electronic gadget) get introduced, first they have the basic prototype model (which we dont realize), then boom 2 month after you purchase it they come out with new and improved one.

Originally posted by Pyrotechnocracy23


And yeah - I'm a little ticked off about the two way wristwatch not catching on. After all - they DID have a television in a wristwatch back in the late eighties. It just never caught on because the screen was so darned small.

Good one, but im not talking about tv watches, i want to see the DAMN person like tracy did when he got a call, some real time s***. LOL

Sorry i know this is off the topic , but i couldnt help myself. _javascript:icon('

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Originally posted by whos_out_there

Originally posted by Ryanp5555
how would HONDA reverse engineer alien technology? Did the government just hand over alien crap and say, hey, do whatcha can? Sounds unrealistic.

Honestly do you think or are that ignorant (not to insult you) to think that UFOS only crashed or landed here. Come on think about what ur saying, were not the best and greatest and everything you know as much as id love that. Think about it.

what?!?! What does this even mean? if they didn't crash or land then how would we get their technology? Did someone from HONDA build a special device which would be able to read the technology inside an alien ship and then say how it was built? I don't really know what you are saying, but as for the second to last sentence about us being the greatest or not my statement before hand had no bearing on that. I was asking why the hell the government would give it to HONDA! Or why the hell aliens would give it to HONDA for that matter. You would think that if they were going to give it to someone aside from governments they would give it to a technology corporation, not automotive. Something like SONY. The whole idea of HONDA reversing ALIEN technology is ludicrous. I never said anything about the government.

If these units are controlled by brain waves, we better hope that those brain waves are not
abynormal!

I can see it now RoboCop meets Terminator.

The USAF was working with similar technology YEARS ago. They were trying to develop a plane that flew just by the pilot thinking. The problem was that the helmet they had to use for it was so huge that the pilots could only wear it for a few minutes at a time before they had headaches from trying to support the weight. This sounds like they just miniturized what they had already developed, and found ways to make it work better.

Read the book Flight of the Cheetah by Dale Brown. You'll see that the theory and idea for this technology was out a LONG time ago, the tech just wasn't there until recently.