We're really not that bright...

Originally posted by ANOK
Point is it's not beyond a few powerful men with long term agendas we don't fully understand, to sacrifice a few people to push that agenda.

And there we have the problem.
All you all can do is assume there's an agenda or some long term goal so you try and look for stuff that YOU think is part of this agenda or plan.

People have been talking about the "powerful" and their master "plan" for YEARS upon YEARS. DECADES even. How many more decades will it be before this "plan" is revealed?


And I thought you said these men were powerful. If they were really powerful then they wouldn't need to kill anyone, they'd be able to do whatever they wanted.

Oh, and that list btw is BS. lol
I may go over each one later on if I have time but...you're really reaching now. A sign of desperation?
I'm really curious to why you put this one on that list though

Top FBI agent John Oneil(who died in the WTC towers)(ALLOWED)

lmao. So...what? He come back from the dead and say that 9/11 was allowed?
You know what O'Neil was most known for? For being obsessed with trying to find Bin Laden and Al Q.
That's just one example of how you tried to twist that list.

Originally posted by ANOK
Here are some more "officials" who don't buy the official story...

Top FBI agent John Oneil(who died in the WTC towers)(ALLOWED)

If this guy died in the WTC towers then the only thing he bought was the farm.

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird

Top FBI agent John Oneil(who died in the WTC towers)(ALLOWED)

lmao. So...what? He come back from the dead and say that 9/11 was allowed?
You know what O'Neil was most known for? For being obsessed with trying to find Bin Laden and Al Q.
That's just one example of how you tried to twist that list.

Well if you check into these names like say then you'll figure out the John O'neil deal

BTW I didn't try to twist that list, you could only question one lol, and one that looks odd but really isn't

Dude what you don't understand is it's not a plan that is going to be revealed, just like we're not going to wake up and the NWO is in control like some people seem to think.
It's an ongoing program of power and control. It has been ongoing and involving since 'government' (I use that term loosly btw) took control. The government is just a tool of those who have the real wealth and power. As times change they have to re-create ways to control the population and the flow of money and power.
For the ultra rich to maintain their power they have to constantly, as I said, re-invent new ways to maintain their positions.
The ultimate goal has to be ultimate control. The question is what happens when they have ultimate control, if they ever will...The prosses will never stop, capitalism doesn't have an end, is there ever enough money, power? Isn't every new generation less satisfied than the last and needs bigger, more extremes to satisfy?
The ruling elite are no different in that respect.

You only have to look at the big picture of history and present times to see the patterns. It ebs and flows, sometimes they fail (WWII) sometimes they push the 'agenda' (I use that term loosely btw because it changes) in a huge way (9-11).
They make mistakes and they deal with them (Kennedy).

Remember wealth and power brings paranoia, once you have it, you don't want to let go, no matter what you have to do (war, terrorism, assasinations, 9-11).
And they will not stop until we stop it, or it implodes taking all of us with it...

[edit on 25/5/2006 by ANOK]

Originally posted by Dock6
When they want a big job done, they outsource.

As in the torture industry. Victims are flown to Europe and elsewhere. Keeps the blood from staining the carpets in the Whitehouse.

Yep. And when Italy put out arrest warrants for 22 CIA agents kidnapping Italian citizens a while back, informed word was that the Muslims being kidnapped were being flown to places like Egypt and tortured.

You bring up a really good point. It would be smartest to bring in foreigners for the tasks that needed labor.

When they want an insured, white elephant landmark-edifice removed and want to combine it with the scheduled invasion of Iraq -- they outsource.

Originally posted by ANOK

The prosses will never stop, capitalism doesn't have an end, is there ever enough money, power?

I am very interested in your thoughts about capitalism. I am of the Ayn Rand persuasion myself, but I have always wanted to have a serious conversation with those who felt differently. To be honest, I wish I knew more than I did about economic systems.