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Originally posted by AGENT_T
HIV...Hoax scare to control population growth?
video.google.com...
I Still find it hard to believe thall all efforts to fight the aids virus is being based on one unproven fact. that HIV CAUSES AIDS.
Studies early on found less than 50% of AIDS cases were HIV+
Why?? miliions of people have it, INCLUDING Magic Johnson,they seem fine enough and are even given drugs that are actuallY poisonous.eg.AZT.
Like giving chemotherapy to a guy who has a benign tumour
So is HIV a deliberately misleading statement to stop ''free love'' and control population growth and AIDS a manufactured disease to remove ''undesirables''??,My opinion only..I add
and JOHN .. i will be happy to debate your questions if you really require an explanation of the video.. AFTER you have watched it
Originally posted by john_bmth
I'm not gonna waste my time watching some video until u can reference some of ur claims... that may actually give u (and thus ur video) some credability... enough credability to warrant me taking the time out to watch it.
Originally posted by john_bmth
I'm not gonna waste my time watching some video until u can reference some of ur claims... that may actually give u (and thus ur video) some credability... enough credability to warrant me taking the time out to watch it.
ok... so long as u watch my 8 hour video 'prooving' that the world is flat and trees aren't real. And u can't say anything to the contrary UNTIL u've watched the whole thing! Thats a stupid arguement, no? Surley u could reference some of the sources from the video? I'm assuming it is referencing credible sources, no?
In fact i dare anyone to even watch the first 5 minutes and not be compelled to watch the rest. 3 minutes even
I dare u to reference 1 of ur claims from a credible source. Then u got urself a deal
Originally posted by AGENT_T
Thanks Dae,you are a bigger man than i am.Maybe i should have more patience trying to help people DENY IGNORANCE
would love your feedback on this. I was stunned.Equivelent of 15$ per head of every single hiv sufferer.?? On a seemingly natural occuring virus that has NEVER by ANYONE proved to even cause aids??.
Originally posted by john_bmth
on the other hand, u could actually read my post
Peter H. Duesberg, Ph.D. is a professor of molecular and cell biology at the University of California, Berkeley.
He isolated the first cancer gene through his work on retroviruses in 1970, and mapped the genetic structure of these viruses. This, and his subsequent work in the same field, resulted in his election to the National Academy of Sciences in 1986. He is also the recipient of a seven-year Outstanding Investigator Grant from the National Institutes of Health
Duesberg has challenged the virus-AIDS hypothesis in the pages of such journals as Cancer Research, Lancet, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Science, Nature, Journal of AIDS, AIDS Forschung, Biomedicine and Pharmacotherapeutics, New England Journal of Medicine and Research in Immunology. He has instead proposed the hypothesis that the various AIDS diseases are brought on by the long-term consumption of recreational drugs and AZT, which is prescribed to prevent or treat AIDS
Walter Gilbert, professor in molecular biology, won the 1980 Nobel prize in chemistry
Kary Mullis won the 1993 Nobel Prize in chemistry for his invention of the polymerase chain reaction technique, for detecting DNA, which is used to search for fragments of HIV in AIDS patient
Source
AZT was developed back in 1964 for chemotherapy in cancer patients, at a time when it was thought that cancer was caused by a retrovirus, but was shelved because it failed in animal experiments. It was designed to destroy proliferating cells. Normally cancer chemotherapy drugs are used for limited periods. The rationale for cancer chemotherapy is to kill cancer cells during mitosis with cytotoxic chemicals like AZT.
Also of interest is NYC's Dept. of Health and Statistics record of Pediatric AIDS deaths over the entire AIDS period (which they backdate to 1976) versus the number of Pediatric HIV deaths for the same period.
60% mortality (40% survival) rate in the AIDS (highly drugged) group -versus- 4% mortality (96% survival) rate for the HIV (no AIDS - less drugged or not drugged) group.
A major problem with the new AIDS definition is that it ignores the man-made environmental causes of immune suppression. Exposure to toxins, alcoholism, heavy drug use or heavy antibiotic use all can cause onset of the list of 'diseases' indicative of AIDS. "Los Angeles Weekly Dec 18 1987. Dr. Leo Rebello
"I have known so many people who have died of AIDS ... and all of them - all of them - took the drugs they were told to by their doctors. .. I have never taken any of them and I haven't gotten sick. Not even a cold.." Goldie Glitters - nearly 30 years "living with the virus"