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OBL, Black wind, puzzle fitting together!

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posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 08:54 AM
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Hmmm so we got a stolen modified 727, a stolen laptop with sensitive information on it, and mabye stolen uranium.


I mentioned in a previous post that OBL said he wanted to visit the infidels with a black wind and martyr himself in the process. Looks like the pieces of that are falling together.

With enough nuclear material that jumbo would make one hell of a dirty bomb! And even if shot down it would still be effective! Could possible contamiate an entire city and take out a well known landmark at same time!

This is what I believe is just round the corner, i just hope i aint right!



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 09:12 AM
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Furthermore:

Baghdad is considered the (center) of world

Jerusalem is considered the navel of the world

Washington is considered the center of democracy
~~~

OBL, fortells his martyrdom, in the 'belly of the eagle'- 2003




BR 549



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 09:12 AM
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Where can I read the articles about the stolen laptop and 727? I haven't heard very much about either of them.



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 09:12 AM
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Furthermore:

sorry, 2nd post,

[Edited on 16-10-2003 by riffraffalunas]



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 09:24 AM
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kaoszero, there's some threads on both subjects...(just use the ATS Search option...on stolen laptop, missing plane, etc.)


Hmmm so we got a stolen modified 727, a stolen laptop with sensitive information on it, and mabye stolen uranium.


All of these happened pretty far apart...and one of these acts was a crime of opportunity...(the laptop theft). May be a bit of a stretch to say they're connected... However, your general idea is a pretty scary one...a plane dirty bomb...
This would be right up his alley...



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 09:32 AM
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15 Kg of DU really isn't very much. I don't think it would have very much effect if loaded onto a plane and the plane were crashed.
It may be enough for a small "dirty bomb" to contaminate a city block or so. I doubt it could do much more. Not to mention that DU is very low on the radioactivity scale compared to what you can get out of a smoke detector or x-ray machine.



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 09:36 AM
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plane-DU-crash-hot fire-DU burns and spreads with the smoke/wind..can polute a big area with low radiation so low it will hardly be more then natural. The bad thing is when u breath it in, or eat it, or drink...and hats the big risk, there will be bad long term effect, similar to what happened after chernobyl.
And the scare it will create, thats something else


www.firethistime.org...

[Edited on 16-10-2003 by jozuph]



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 10:07 AM
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I never said the radiation would be much, but imagine the terror of the general population! They would not understand that it isnt that dangerous.



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by kaoszero
Where can I read the articles about the stolen laptop and 727? I haven't heard very much about either of them.


Stolen laptop (stolen yesterday-Oct 15, 2003) edition.cnn.com...

Stolen 727 (missing since May 2003)
worldnetdaily.com...

Stolen DU (missing since July 8, 2003) newsvote.bbc.co.uk...

It's a stretch to link these together, but anything is possible.



[Edited on 10-16-2003 by darklanser]



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 10:08 AM
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Yes,the panic value/scare factor may just be all there is to these stories regarding DU and stolen planes at the present time.
Crashing planes have a limited effect,they make a comparatively small mess,DU makes a mess,but it more than likely isn't as dangerous a compound as many believe it to be , or I am sure it wouldn't be so widely used.
One thing I think about frequently is the possibility of a "dirty bomb" attack being used to scare people into leaving certain areas because of contamination,when there isn't any contamination at all.
Look at what the UN wants to do with America.
www.texemarrs.com...
(not exactly what I wanted to link to , but if you want to find out,search for it,it is out there...)
It is scary to think how people believe everything they read in the media and see on TV.
Besides all of that,why live a life in fear of the inevitable?,nobody lives forever.
Don't let anyone push you around for any reason, if they kill you the bad is on them,and you're free.



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by kaoszero
Where can I read the articles about the stolen laptop and 727? I haven't heard very much about either of them.


See my thread on the missing Boeing



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
kaoszero, there's some threads on both subjects...(just use the ATS Search option...on stolen laptop, missing plane, etc.)


Hmmm so we got a stolen modified 727, a stolen laptop with sensitive information on it, and mabye stolen uranium.


All of these happened pretty far apart...and one of these acts was a crime of opportunity...(the laptop theft). May be a bit of a stretch to say they're connected... However, your general idea is a pretty scary one...a plane dirty bomb...
This would be right up his alley...


The stealing of the laptop probably was not a crime of opportunity. It was probably well planned. And quite easy to pull off.
The boeing in question was gutted and fitted with fuel tanks. How's that for a nice, warm thought? No dirty bomb needed.



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 11:05 AM
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I give 1 to 6 weeks for something to happen (something bad).
Its all been biulding for quite some time now, all those attacks in iraq may be designed to divert attention from a much bigger scale attack in the works!



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 11:12 AM
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If it is three different factions,entities,people or governments which have stolen,fumbled upon or lost these items,it will probably be some time before they come to some kind of agreement regarding payment, compensation or cooperation to use them in the way everyone like is freaking out about.
These are more likely random, unrelated events if they occurred at all,considering the media is a puppet of the powers that be,they are probably being used to terrify the ignorant helpless sheeples of the world into entering into some kind of a contract in which they agree to give up some more rights.
Giving up rights simply gives government more power.
Once the people of the world have no power and no weapons to defend themselves,the governments will do as they please.
This is more serious than the bogus "war on terror" itself,but the sheeples choose to allow themselves to be blinded by fear.
I would think that the summer's wild weather is more of a threat to the world than nukes or dirty bombs,food shortages,natural gas and oil shortages are a real possibility.
This war on terror is more than likely something to distract the masses from the real problem looming on the horizon.
Give it maybe 2 years,we will all see it then,too clearly.



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 11:16 AM
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I hope your right unbalanced but I think people will look back on this thread and think oh crap he was right



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Fry2
15 Kg of DU really isn't very much. I don't think it would have very much effect if loaded onto a plane and the plane were crashed.


Silly fry. If they use those 15 kilos they will blow it with conventional explosives. Crashing a plane like that is a waste of uranium.

By the way. Don't forget 'sensetive information' was stollen from Sydeny airport too.



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 11:24 AM
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I don't know about the stolen uranium, but the stolen laptop and the missing airplane could relate. What Kukla mentioned is what concerns me. Those running the show may feel threatened if it starts looking like Bush might not get re-elected. Or if the CIA Leak case blows up and gets heavy. Heads could roll over that. I'm having flashbacks of Nixon's second term.



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 11:33 AM
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The plane was probably stolen for parts.
The laptop is probably in a pawn shop,with it's hard drive reformatted and all the information on it lost forever.
The DU is probably on the bottom of a river or lake,and the van it was in when it was stolen is probably being sold as parts too.
Don't worry your head about it.
It is all quite meaningless in the grand scheme of thing,more than likely.
Peeople are not that bright really,they steal, lose and misplace things all the time.....



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 11:38 AM
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Silly fry. If they use those 15 kilos they will blow it with conventional explosives. Crashing a plane like that is a waste of uranium.


That was my point. In addition to that they would need to powderize the DU before blowing it. People really crack me up with this fear of DU. You are getting more radiation from your monitor than you would get from a chunk of DU sitting on your desk.



posted on Oct, 16 2003 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by uNBaLaNCeD
The plane was probably stolen for parts.
The laptop is probably in a pawn shop,with it's hard drive reformatted and all the information on it lost forever.
The DU is probably on the bottom of a river or lake,and the van it was in when it was stolen is probably being sold as parts too.
Don't worry your head about it.
It is all quite meaningless in the grand scheme of thing,more than likely.
Peeople are not that bright really,they steal, lose and misplace things all the time.....


I agree with certain aspects of what you say, but in this case, there is something going on. Not saying these three things are related. They may or may not be. That missing aircraft, however, is definitely a concern. I'm afraid it could have been flown into the states or Britain, for example during the blackouts. The screen went black just long enough to allow something of this nature to occur. And I ain't skeered!



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