5 ton coke bust- planes owners- Tom Delays appointee, and CIA?

Also, a great read...
hopstickers website has been updated...
Oh boy, we gonna have some fun now kiddies...
(thanks dgtempe)

drug plane belonged to CIA

I especially like the part about a match.com profile...
although you will want to respond to it, please dont...
i have some ideas to try first... and if the hand is revealed, then the profile will dissapear...




[edit on 2-6-2006 by LazarusTheLong]

Hey,

Once in awhile i get lucky.

I did what you asked me to do. Mission half accomplished.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Mission half accomplished.

Isn't it funny that after that carrier photo-op, that phrase can never be used again without heavy irony?

This thread is so cool, good on you for starting it dg

Just wanted to bump this one.

dgtempe and lazarus, you got my votes.
Keep up the good work ...

Thank you- we are still working on this.

Originally posted by cycles
dgtempe and lazarus, you got my votes.
Keep up the good work ...

What about all the others?
Actually, this is a massive effort on many parts... and much is still being done behind the scenes...

I am trying to get this transferred to a research project on conspiracy masters...

If you would like to help this potential project,
then contact:
LoganCale Or I (or Dgtempe) , and we can make you all a formal part of the team...

Desert, agonizer, Rich, cycles... any others interested?

Ok, i have to post this...

It is another angle of this story, that indicates that the reason the army didn't have enough money for hummer armor was related to a republican money scam performed against he pentagon for overpriced software that the army couldn't even use... (by one of the companies that is involved in these CIA fronts)

but hey, at least the buyers of influence got the good end of the contract... they got paid... $32,000 for each $6000 program (cost a whole bunch to slap a new label on it)
But at the same time that the army was forced to pay for these garbage software deals (pushed thru account payables) they couldn't afford new armor for humvees...



hookergate- porter goss the juicy stuff starts about half way down...
or do a page find for Glenn Kovar

And i dont know if any of us have mentioned it yet, but from what we can tell...
Porter Goss quit based upon this deal.... and the now connected Abromoff/cunningham scandal, and the soon to be disclosed connections to 9-11 terrorists, and funding sources for the terrorists...
this is getting big, and it aint going away...



[edit on 7-6-2006 by LazarusTheLong]

This does keep getting more and more interesting. Anyways I was on another thread which was talking about James Bath. I looked up him up on Wikipedia and found this

In 1980, Bath was named company president of Cotopax Investments, registered in the Cayman Islands. The name was changed to Skyway Aircraft Leasing Ltd. The company board then resigned en masse, leaving Bath as a sole director.

en.wikipedia.org...

Is this Skyway Aircraft Leasing connected to the one mentioned earlier in the thread??

The_headcrusher, here's an interesting read on James Bath. (Posted earlier on this thread.)

www.wburg.com...

Forgot to answer your ? . Yes.

[edit on 9-6-2006 by desert]

I have not seen any direct connection between SkyWay Aircraft Leasing and SkyWay Communications. Do you have sources linking the two?

Hi, Logan. I couldn't find any direct connection between SL and SC. What were those four entities Bath established? Re my above reply--I took the question to ask if that was the same SL mentioned here. Unless there's a difference between a SL with Ltd and one mentioned without, I took them to be one and the same.

I've been looking into the whole James Bath thing and he's indeed an interesting fellow.

Suspended from Texas Air National Guard on September 1, 1972, one month after George W. Bush's suspension. Both for the same reason. But when the White House released the document showing that, they blacked out Bath's name. Someone had previously gotten the document through FOIA, however, and released it. Link to uncensored document

He went on to work with Bush in several business endeavors, which I haven't looked into much yet.

Then, July 8, 1976, Bath became Salem bin Laden's representative, as shown in this document. Bath purchased the Houston Gulf Airport for Salem bin Laden - something I'd like to look into a bit. The airport does not exist now, but perhaps it was used for smuggling at some point.

No direct connections between the two SkyWays that I've seen yet, but I shall continue searching.

Additionally, if there was any doubt regarding agonizer's post on Curshen and the alias MasterJon - I'm not saying there was, it was just a clever way to start a post with additional information - I found a large number of posts by that alias and variants - some directly under "Jonathan Curshen" - which I'm not going to post because of their content, but some contained a photograph. At this link there is a photograph of him from 2005. (Inline thumbnails are hosted on my site, as is one of the linked full size images)

And here's the 7 - 10 year old photograph of MasterJon that's been posted around. Most of the direct links going to it were dead, but fortunately archive.org still had a copy up.

Definitely the same guy, especially if you click to see them full size.

From the things he posts, he's a disturbing person. Interestingly, he also appears to have posted on penny stock newsgroups in the past. Now I just have to remember his connection to all of this. I seem to have forgotten and I never wrote it down before. Oh well, it's in this thread somewhere.

Still working at it. Not going very well....will keep trying.

Second line.

Logan
Penny stock fraud...now where did I run into this stuff a while back
first a story like here
www.phillyimc.org...

then your post led me to here, a verrry long read
www.stlimc.org...

These people are way out of the average person's league when it comes to greed, fraud, generally no morals. The average citizen is good and that, unfortunately at times, can color their world into believing people in power must be, too.

LoganCale,

Not offended at all. Skepticism is healthy. I convinced myself SM-John was Red Sea's Curshen and that e-mail and IP-addresses used by Curshen and posting archives on Usenet and Yahoo link everything together. Curshen's sexual preferences maybe does say something about his character, but it is not important for the drug haul. That's why I didn't bother to put up more details here.

Curshen is one of the big players in Red Sea Management. The $7M (including a DC-9) off-shore 'DuPont' investor that pumped money in troubled Sky Way in 2004 used the same Costa Rican address as Red Sea Management does. That's the only link I know of.

Red Sea Management and people involved link to, or are associated with, murky business dealings and murky persons. I consider some of the things found on the internet about Curshen to be rumours, like that his office is on top of the Israeli embassy.

If you consider the confiscated planes in 2004 and 2006, both linked to Sky Way and narcotics trafficking, the idea might come to mind that the $7M investment was a payment for logistical services rendered or an attempt to keep up the Sky Way cover for hiding illegal activities.

Since most observers seem to agree Sky Way's official business potential didn't seem to look like anything that would have justified the $7M investment, this transaction seems at least suspect. Off-shore constructions are generally used to hide the real ownership of assets for several reasons. Not all use of offshore financial constructions are forbidden by law, but it can give cover for illegally obtained assets, tax evasion and other money laundering activities, including ofcourse drug money.

Strange detail is the N900SA was flying with the Sky Way logo before -according to the SEC documents- the 'DuPont-deal' was signed. The to Sky Way registered N391SA confiscated in 2004 is not mentioned in any of Sky Way's SEC filings. A $100.000 down payment for another never actually acquired plane however is.

BTW I am interested in being involved in the research project. There are so many facets to this story that it really requires a team to investigate.

I guess i really need to ask to be a part as well, since i haven't been as active lately...

I did find that the address for the redsea management has at least one other company operating out of the same office.
at the same location APDO 10455-1000
San Jose, Costa Rica. it lists:
Omega Clearing services,

Which i could find nothing under in searches...
Might be a freight clearing/customs service... which would be a neccessary connection for a drug smuggling operation.

Here you can find the address of Red Sea Management related 'offshorebanking.co.cr'.

Offshore Banking.co.cr
Apdo 10455-1000
Tel: +506-258-6464
Fax: +506-258-6060 +506-257-9345
Toll Free USA 800-498-5052
Email:[email protected]

Here another 2002 reference:

The Offshore Specialists Management, Ltd
Apdo 10455-1000
San Jose, Costa Rica
+506-258-6464
+506-258-6060 Fax
[email protected]
www.redseamanagement.com

Here a complete Alabama Against Fraud topic on Curshen

Agonizer, I also had the thought that the DuPont "investment" and the $ for undelivered aircraft was suspicious. Could be for services rendered or for drugs. Afterall, stuff like this is big business, big illegal business.


Lazarus, here's a site that helped me to understand a little about "clearing services" in regards to financial tramsactions
www.gs.com...
but "clearing services" could be freight, too.

Originally posted by truthseeka

Originally posted by YIAWETA
It's an old fund raising method for more campaign contra-butions. Old man Bush would make Tony Montana look like a corner crack dealer with all the flake he's moved over the last twenty five years.

So true. But, do you think Baby Bush makes Tony's cokehead wife look like an occasion user?

So, it seems that the best criminals today are white, educated (somewhat in some cases

), and politicians. This works, because the uneducated, umemployed blacks get blamed for it all. So, maybe the brothers on the block should get educated, become politicians, and continue to be criminals.

Yeah, right; if you had a chance to get educated in the hood, you wouldn't go back to a life of crime afterwards. You gotta admit, though, it's a helluva system. Just like the drug war. Govt is the biggest dealer around, but locks you up with a dime bag on the street. Then, they make money off of you, through the courts and through the jail/prison system. So, they get money from the dope, the fines, and the system that processes your ass and uses you if you get caught in it.

Now THAT is the ultimate hustle.

The funny thing is that these kids that are Hustlers that go to jail are hustlers because of one reason. There parents brought them up aroudn the drug they are hustling. And there parents kids brought them up that way. And one starts using it then the others ... then more ... and as time goes on Clientale builds as well. And you have these people that every time they see you they wanna Holla at you. I know this from first hand experience one of my good friends was trying to stop hustling and he just couldn't not because of the drug per se. But because every where he went someone would ask him ... let me get a half .. let me get this ... let me get this ... and all he woudl have to do is go pick it up from his so called "FRIENDS" that would just give him the substance ... and then he would turn around and flip it and have double or triple the money he had yesterday and he didn't even have to do anythign ... Accept drive around. This is really why that your RIGHTS are preserved as an american so drug dealers can stop anywhere any time and hustle without a police man coming up to them and asking them Squat ... I remember when the sherriff's used to be the towns friend now it just isn't quite that way ...Actually it is quite the Oposite ......................It was even hard for me to see him do this and tell him get a job get a life. When I have a job and I work everyday and he makes more than I make in a month in a couple nights ... Depending on how much driving aroudn he wanted to do ... Kinda sad for the kid ... ... Wish there was something to tell him ... But what could you tell someone who has been doing this ... for the last 6 years and has been caught know what the concequences are and just figures it is worth the risk for him ???? If anyone has any information I could give him it would be interesting to see what he says to it .... or what he does not say .... rather .....