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Cancer: Causes, Cures & Cover-up.

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posted on Oct, 14 2003 @ 03:23 PM
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Below are some of the Highlights, but more info can be found at these two sites among others which also present the same discovery that has been shelved for way too long!
www.joevialls.co.uk...

Foundation of Life Website: Cancer Treatment Section
www.thefountainoflife.ws...

The Causes & Cures
The proof Dr. Krebs has presented over the years to support his claim of 'lost' B17 in our diets is impressive. Centuries ago we used to eat millet and linseed bread rich in B17, but now we chew our way through wheat bread which has none at all.

Research has proved that a Himalayan tribe known as the 'Hunza' never contract cancer or suffer from heart disease if they stick to their native diet which is exceptionally high in both apricots and millet. However, once exposed to western diets the Hunza become as vulnerable as the rest of us.

Careful investigation reveals the most likely common factor to be vitamin B17. The caribou which form a large part of the staple diet of both groups(Hunza & Eskimo) graze predominantly on arrow grass containing up to 15,000 mg per kilo nitriloside, the primary source of B17.....

Unfortunately for most 'civilized' western cultures, grasses and other foodstuffs now used to feed domestic animals intended for human consumption rarely contain more than a trace of nitriloside, though they did until botanists and biochemists started to genetically alter our plant life....

Where The Hunza or Eskimaux get an average individual ration of between 250 and 3,000 milligrams of vitamin B17 every day, European folk eating 'healthy' modern foods receive barely 2 milligrams.

Physicians reading this article will probably be shaking with self-righteous indignation by this stage, muttering darkly: 'Yes, but where is the PROOF?' Right here: Most people have heard of 'spontaneous regression' where a cancer simply goes away, hopefully never to reappear. Such spontaneous regressions are exceedingly rare and vary from one form of cancer to another. One virulent cancer variety known as testicular chorionepithelioma has never been known to produce a single spontaneous regression. Perhaps for that precise reason, Dr. Krebs singled it out for special attention when proving the effectiveness of B17 Laetrile in providing total control for cancers.

As Edward Griffin recalls, in a banquet speech in San Francisco on November 19, 1967, Dr. Ernst T. Krebs briefly reviewed six cases of testicular chorionepithelioma. Then he added: 'Now there is an advantage in not having had prior radiation, because if you have not received prior radiation that has failed, then you cannot enjoy the imagined benefits of the delayed effects of prior radiation. So this boy falls into the category of the "spontaneous regression." And when we look at this scientifically, we know that spontaneous regression occurs in fewer than one in 150,000 cases of cancer. The statistical possibility of spontaneous regression accounting for the complete resolution of six successive cases of testicular chorionepithelioma [All six completely resolved solely by B17 Laetrile - Ed.] is far greater than the statistical improbability of the sun not rising tomorrow morning.

The Cover-Up
Unable to patent B17 or claim exclusive rights to the vitamin, the pharmaceutical multinationals launched a massive propaganda attack of unprecedented viciousness against Laetrile, despite the fact that hard proof of its efficiency in controlling cancer now surrounds us.

Unfortunately most: governments have buckled under the pressure exerted by the pharmaceutical multinationals, the American Food & Drug Administration, and the American Medical Association. All three have mounted highly successful 'scare' campaigns based on the fact that vitamin B17 contains quantities of 'deadly' cyanide; conveniently forgetting that vitamin B12 also contains large quantities of cyanide but is freely available in health food shops world-wide.

Dr. Kreb's B17 Laetrile was derived from apricot kernels and then synthesized into crystalline form using his own unique process. Suddenly the American FDA bombarded the media with a story about an unfortunate couple who had poisoned themselves by eating raw apricot kernels in San Francisco. The story made headline news across the U.S.A. although several suspicious ;journalists never managed to establish the identity of the unfortunate couple, despite many determined attempts.

Comments??

[edit on 1-8-2005 by John bull 1]



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 02:43 AM
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dangerous stuff, its not so nice to make people believe that a wonder cure for cancer is there. U should also bear in mind that the companies making vitamines also like to sell as much as possible. I work in the cancerresearch field and i pretty shure b17 aint going to cure no cancer.I can comment on this more but need to do some work now first..



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 02:54 AM
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Vitamin B17 can't be that suppresed? I just noticed the Google Ads to the right...Anyways I eat caribou whenever I get the chance!



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 03:30 AM
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maybe this helps
www.bccancer.bc.ca...



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by jozuph
dangerous stuff, its not so nice to make people believe that a wonder cure for cancer is there. U should also bear in mind that the companies making vitamines also like to sell as much as possible. I work in the cancerresearch field and i pretty shure b17 aint going to cure no cancer.I can comment on this more but need to do some work now first..


Well from what I've read it's not just a Vitamin B17 thing but has something to do with the cyanide too.(yes I know what cyanide is too) Of course I am not a Cancer Research Specialist either, like you say you are. This however isn't the only time I've read about this kind of "Alternative" Cure or Possible Cure so I thought I would post it so others interested could research it more if they like. I do hope you check into it more since that IS YOUR JOB in the first place.

I find it interesting you judge me as to what my intentions are also. "Dangerous and Not Nice to make people believe in a wonder cure" you say. I don't believe anyone is claiming any "Wonder Cure" but perhaps when there is NO CURE as of yet, any cure does seem that way. Although I guess being SHOT FULL of other POISONS and RADIATION seems like a "Safe and Nice" way of treatment to you?? How about the Removal of Flesh, Bone and/or Limbs is to you something other than "Dangerous and Not Nice"??
You act as if I have never known anyone close to me who's gone through it and therefore am unaware of the Pain and Horror of it. Well you'd be wrong sir, as I can assure you I have seen it. I also have some medical training as well as family and friends who are in the "Legal Drug" business. Prozac and Ritalin being given to 3 year old kids daily! The masses of this planet being doped up for any and all reasons possible.

Understand I don't presume to know you or what you do or how well you do it. I have hope that you do an amazing job and do have the best intentions of the sick and dying. To many others have nothing more in mind than their own wallets. I also know funding and legal B.S. often prevents problems for the medical staff as well, forcing them into positions they wouldn't choose unless made to.

I'll tell you what though. If it is possible that even one person benifits from what is posted here, at least I did it for NO MONEY, NO REWARD, but just as one person trying to help another, no questions asked. I'm not selling anything or promising a Damn thing and obviously I expect others to continue research on their own if they're interested. I wish you the best of luck in your research also and do not mean any offence from what I have typed either. It just struck a wrong cord perhaps.



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 04:22 AM
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Sorry mojom, it was not my idea to tell you thats its dangerous to post this. I believe people can think for themself, at least i hope they do. I dont know where u get the idea that i would be against u but i dont know, people lightly take things personal.
There are a lott of people claiming theyre wonderpil helps to cure cancer, giving people who are already at the end of theyre powers new 'hope'. In most, if not all cases, this turns out being very disapointing to the person. Iam also not claiming that radiation or chemotherapy are good. I also think that people should try any alternative they want. And i believe that every person can use and try what they want. Also people in the fundamental research field, biology, moleculair biology or medicine dont make much money, actually they get payed #ty payments and the work, not only being sometimes very depressing, is never ending meaning most work long days for that #ty payment. I also have people in my surrounding having cancer or have already died of cancer. So sorry if i offended u, it was not directed at u..thx for your respond though

[Edited on 15-10-2003 by jozuph]



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 04:37 AM
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No problem jozuph, didn't mean to lecture ya or anything there buddy.


As this is a conspiracy however, and this is your business, maybe this is one that can be solved? Also from what I've read this isn't something that is always of use once someone is real far along. It's most effective at early stages just like all treatment, so it's not a miracle cure, but possible treatment other than killing cells left and right hoping to kill the bad ones while leaving enough good ones the person can still live. Check out these links. Call these doctors as a fellow Dr. and see what's up.

List of Doctors who support it:
www.credence.org...

Page full of links to many articles showing past research.
www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk...



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 06:48 AM
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True its a conspiracy forum but i dont really believe this is a case of conspiracy

I would like to look into this but that means a lott of reading on the subject and time is not on my side. I looked at NCBI, in Pubmed a database where all published articels from scientific journals are published, well at least the abstracts. I think that scientific research should be published in the apropriate journal to show how its been done, what the results are and how they are obtained. This so everybody can read em and decide if the research has been done properly and if the claims resulting from this research are proven to be the thruth. If i do so, and search for vitamine b17 or any of it acronyms i am disappointed since theres not really one paper which shows that it works. One in-vitro studie shows that b17 can work in a antiproliferative manner on promyelocytic leukemia cells but its published in an obscure journal wich we dont have in our library. In the link i already gave are some results from clinical studies which also didnt show an effect and if the effect was not that benificial to the patient mainly because the cyanide poisoning. There was one study in whome they couple the b17 to an antibody directed against a specific tumor to get more specific cell killing and it showed that this is a more suttle way to use Laetrile but they conclude : Our findings indicate that antibody-directed enzyme prodrug therapy is more effective than non-directed enzyme activation of a prodrug and can result in a non-toxic cancer therapy which means that they looked more to the use of directing by use of an AB then to the effect of amygdalin.
For the rest theres only papers going back to the 1970, 1980's without any prove.. Also concerning the use in very early stages of cancer development i cant find any papers confirming this, only ideas and could be's.. True its good to make sure u get your vitamins but cureing cancer is something different is my personal opinion. If i have time ill look into again, pz



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 07:45 AM
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heres the link to NCBI, maybe u wanna look for yourself..
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 08:06 AM
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The "conspiracy" is that dear ol' Joe wants your money and doesn't mind if you drop dead in the process from your cancer.

It doesn't work.

The physicians cited are conveniently dead -- many were dead by 1971, when the information on your link was published. Krebs, who discovered this, died before any of the more recent clincial trials began.

I could have found you a whole boatload of doctors and scientists who say that disease is caused by demons... if I just take my sample from people alive in the 1600's. You can find laetrile supporters in people who studied cancers in the 1960's... just as you could find supporters for giving women thalidomide for morning sickness back in the 1960's (this, of course, was dropped after a large number of babies were born with a particular type of physical deformity caused by the thalidomide.)

If those physicians were alive today, they (including Krebs) would NOT support laetrile.

The site is a whole web of lies. Unfortunately, most folks haven't done any medical research or any other science research (I'm in grad school and I'm doing research now... so I'm familiar with this stuff.) It's hard to believe that this is a lie when someone shrieks "COVER UP!" and cites a whole bunch of medical supporters.

But the only coverup is that there are greedy men who want the money from desperate people and it doesn't matter if you die in the process. They'll give you the stuff and send you off... you won't live long enough to file a lawsuit, and your family probably won't think to file one if you didn't tell them about your new "miracle treatment."



posted on Oct, 15 2003 @ 08:13 AM
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thx byrd, but dont state its complete rubish...some alternatives can help, not cure but help..



posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 01:48 PM
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Good information (although I haven't had the chance to corroborate all of it)

www.quackwatch.org...


AF1

posted on Oct, 19 2003 @ 03:24 PM
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"The polio epidemic reached its height in 1952. It turned thousands of victims into cripples and confined countless children to large pressure chambers called "iron lungs," which helped them to breath when their diaphragm muscles were stilled. There was and still is no treatment for polio. Aside from attempts to maintain life functions, the disease must run its course.

And so, in 1955, just one year before I received it, Jonas Salk had performed no small miracle when he successfully mass-produced an effective polio vaccine by growing a form of the virus on the kidneys of rhesus monkeys. This virus would be harvested, killed, and given to healthy children like me, who would then develop antibodies which would kill any future invasion of the body by the polio virus.

This happy story of medical marvel has a deadly glitch. And it is especially deadly if, like me, you received your vaccinations in the 1950s, in certain states like Massachusetts.

In 1960, researchers discovered that the polio vaccine distributed to certain states was infected with another virus called "Simian Virus 40." SV-40 is a monkey virus that is not normally found in humans. Unknown at the time, it was present in hundreds of rhesus monkeys that were used to grow and harvest the polio vaccine. Injected into research animals, the SV-40 virus causes brain and lung cancers. Now, some forty years later, its effect on humans is just being investigated.
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"Researchers from the Institute of Histology and General Embryology of the University of Ferrara, lead by Dr. Fernanda Martini, discovered SV-40's presence in a variety other tumors. They found the rhesus monkey virus in 83% of choriod plexus papillomas, in 73% of ependymomas, in 47% of astrocytomas, in 50% of glioblastomas, and in 14% of meningiomas.

SV-40 also has been found in 23% of blood samples and 45% of sperm fluids taken from normal individuals! Researchers have determined the SV-40 virus can be transmitted sexually and through blood transfusions.

Even more shocking, SV-40 has appeared in 61% of all new cancer patients
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www.viewzone.com...

I dont know if anyone knows about this, but SV40 is a monkey virus that was said to have contaminated many of the polio vaccines that were given during the 1950's.

My mother and my dad both got that vaccine.

5 years ago my 6 year old developed a tumor, and 4 years ago she passed away. They think it might have something to do with this vaccine. Just one more thing the government has #ed up.



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 01:07 AM
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"There's no money in the cure." Chris Rock.



posted on Oct, 22 2003 @ 06:21 PM
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Look Cancer is a man made disease!!! I know i know,,,that sounds a little too crazy, but come on!!! Even if it isn't,,there's no cure??? Yeah okay! Look,,,thge pharmiceutical(pardon my spelling) companies would lose millions if a cure was published. Think about it,,,how much money does the country generate from the sick,,,medication alone brings in billions from people with cancer,,,that doesnt include hospital stays and doctor visits,,,or,,,,cat scans,,,all types of procedures. Yeah, most insurances cover and some do not,,,but in the end someone gets paid for there services,,and that person has to pay there taxes right?



posted on Aug, 1 2005 @ 05:20 AM
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I have a thread on how cancer works and how Vitamin B17 cures cancer.

here is thread

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