Nostradamus: Predictions of World War III

I've been interested in the prophecies of Nostradamus for awhile now and thought that through all his quatrains, there had to have said something about World War III. I came up with a list of his writtings that may (or may not) speak of WW3, and I was wondering if anyone would like to give their interpretations of these predictions.

"From brick to marble, the walls will be converted,
Seven and fifty peaceful years:
Joy to mankind, the aqueduct renewed,
Health, abundant fruits, joy and honey-making times."

"Of beyond the Black Sea and of the great Tartary,
A king comes who will see Gaul,
Piercing across Alania and Armenia,
And within Byzantium hw will leave his bloody rod."

"For seven days the great star will burn,
The cloud shall make two suns to appear:
The big mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff changes country."

"When those of the arctic pole are united together,
In the East great dread and fear:
Newly elected, supporting the great trembling,
Rhodes, Byzantium with Barbarian blood stained. "

These are just a few that I, and a few others, found interesting. Please, if you have more, or any interpretations of these writtings, share them.

Nostradamus is a tough one you know... usually his predictions don't come to light until after the event ... and even then the language which he wrote his prophesies are like trying to decode the writing on the egyptian walls

I do think he was psychic, I do think his predictions come true ... it's just so tough ... why did he have to write them out like that! Translations are sometimes found false ... and sometimes it's proven that tranlations are altered to "stretch" to match an event ...

know what I mean?

Did you happen to catch a program after 9-11 with this guy with a beenie on his head talking about Nostradamus' predictions of 9-11? that was a good show, but it goes to show you how he stretched very far with his own interpretations when it came to "the third anit-christ"

Westcoast,

He wrote them like that for a reason and it was treason, they would have burned him at the stake for prophesizing at that time.The Christians would have burned him for being a demon or witch or heretic.

Originally posted by menguard

Westcoast,

He wrote them like that for a reason and it was treason, they would have burned him at the stake for prophesizing at that time.The Christians would have burned him for being a demon or witch or heretic.

Are you sure about that? That view may be the easy way of explaining it, but how does how he write it make it any less of a prophecy, I mean you could at least leave a translation manual. At any rate there were a number of people who had their own prophecies in middle age europe.

Originally posted by Myrmidon
"Of beyond the Black Sea and of the great Tartary,
A king comes who will see Gaul,
Piercing across Alania and Armenia,
And within Byzantium hw will leave his bloody rod."

Tartary is what would've been something like russia at the time. Gaul , france. Alania, the allans were a tribe or barbarians (supposedly with blondish hair but 'almond' shapped eyes) from central asia. Armenia is, armenia.
Byzantium is Constantinople. Er I mean Istanbul.

When the great pontiff changes country

A ponitif is latin for bridge builder. Great pontiff would be something like 'pontifex maximus'. The first inclination would be to reference the pope,who's a pontif. But it seems unlikely that there is going to be a new pope anytime now. In rome, Pontifex Maximus was the cheif preist of the state, with oversite over lots of reliigous holidays, the first roman emperor assumed the title to reinforce his rule. So, it could be taken about a dozen ways.

Newly elected, supporting the great trembling,
Rhodes, Byzantium with Barbarian blood stained

These kinds of things show that nostradamus is just useless. Rhodes used to be an important trade center, with maritime focus. Byzantium is modern constantinople. Rhodes isn't important anymore. Could he have meant another city that has strong trade through shipping? Maybe, but why say Rhodes then? I can see him saying 'iron cages' when he has a vision of tanks perhaps, but, if he saw NYC, lets say, then he'd call it Rhodes? Doubtful. He's probably talking about..Rhodes. Which isn't important today.

The Christians would have burned him for being a demon or witch or heretic.

Thats strange, consdiering he was known in his own lifetime as a great fortune teller and seer.

Something that came to mind about all this was the translation itself. I mean considering, like you've all said, that the way he writes it is like Shakespearian blow back, it makes it even more vague, and even more so these days that we don't know how to take it the right way. Being that it is vague, there can be many ways to interpret something. The only one that got me was the seven and fifty years of peace, which could easily be the gap of time between the end of World War 2 and 2002, which was roughly the time the war on terror started. It was that war on terror that initially started all this really. And the pope did change since then.

^Very very interesting thought about the peace gap!

when I heard about that "prophecy" I kept thinking future, future ... not thinking about the past 50 years ...

nice thinkin'!

that wouldnt be the peace gap....are you forgeting desert storm, korean war, and vietnam?

just browsed a few Nostradamus videos on YT and apparently he predicted WW3 starts in 2019..

and lasts 3 DECADES!

a reply to: tulsi

Three decades?!

Prepping for that won't be easy, logistics is key.

originally posted by: WestCoastCrazy
Nostradamus is a tough one you know... usually his predictions don't come to light until after the event ... and even then the language which he wrote his prophesies are like trying to decode the writing on the egyptian walls

I do think he was psychic, I do think his predictions come true ... it's just so tough ... why did he have to write them out like that! Translations are sometimes found false ... and sometimes it's proven that tranlations are altered to "stretch" to match an event ...

know what I mean?

Did you happen to catch a program after 9-11 with this guy with a beenie on his head talking about Nostradamus' predictions of 9-11? that was a good show, but it goes to show you how he stretched very far with his own interpretations when it came to "the third anit-christ"

That would be John Hogue, the greatest 'stretcher' of all things written by Nostradamus. A total phony, who claims he is an 'expert' on Nostradamus, is merely a shlock who tries to sell his lousy books.

(Is there a reason for those specific choices in quatrains, let me see a moment)

"From brick to marble, the walls will be converted,
Seven and fifty peaceful years:
Joy to mankind, the aqueduct renewed,
Health, abundant fruits, joy and honey-making times."

(NO VALUE, AND VALUE IN MODIFIED CONTEXT) Tsunami Earthquake 2004 to Halley's Comet 2061 = 57 Literal Years (is valid)
(IS MODIFIED TO BE VALID) Jubilee from Halley's Comet to 12/21/2012 or 7 Years from 12/21/2012 to 12/21/2019
(think Daniel's final week or jubilee and/or Final Seven Years instead of jubilee for MIDST OF WEEK, both VALID)

C5Q54 (use multiple languages not just french, for the language in view (?), just a guess probably not right)
Du pont Exine, & la grand Tartarie,
Vn Roy sera qui viendra voir la Gaule,
Transpercera Alane & l'Armenie,
Et dedans Bisance lairra sanglante gaule

From beyond the Black Sea and great Tartary,
There will be a King who will come to see Gaul,
He will pierce through "Alania" and Armenia,
And within Byzantium will he leave his bloody rod.

(IS VALUE) The Answer is not "Black Sea", (the answer is "whale" or "ark") ................ God is giving the "Son of Man" some power or authority, at an appointed time, does not require a wife or some special work ................... the translation is not HE WILL PIERCE, but the COMET MABUS WILL PIERCE (IS VALID)


"For seven days the great star will burn,
The cloud shall make two suns to appear:
The big mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff changes country."

(IS NO VALUE .......... Daniel's "1290 and 1335" for 7 Years, Flight 370 to 12/21/2020, 153 days before its end...........concludes "27 years for Antichrist of NOstradamus (no-stra-dam-us ... "no wife") ......... from 1993 to 2020 ......... IS INVALID)
("25 Years for Antichrist" from Jupiter Comet Strike, to Comet MABUS (comet runs, no sign specifically) is 12/21/2019 = NO WIFE IS ACCURATE)
(Nostradamus Provides two Measurements for "Antichrist" 25 years and 27 years, its one or the other BOTH ARE NOT VALID!)

"When those of the arctic pole are united together,
In the East great dread and fear:
Newly elected, supporting the great trembling,
Rhodes, Byzantium with Barbarian blood stained. "

(Russia has largest nuclear stock pile ...... this is need of East/Asia now with North Korea ..... New Elected USA President doesn't oppose the arms race ........... IS ACCURATE ............ migrant crisis in europe) (spiritual uncleanness is fueling the arms race)



(Brief Notice About Nostradamus .........)

(sometimes there is not sign, Nostradamus records both a "sign" and the sin of mankind, specifically with no sign ................ so there are less valid answer and valid answer, and answers that are not valid at all)

originally posted by: xinging

originally posted by: osciline
"no value and value in modified context"

Have to Disagree, but you made some good points!

"From brick to marble, the walls will be converted,
Seven and fifty peaceful years:
Joy to mankind, the aqueduct renewed,
Health, abundant fruits, joy and honey-making times."
..............
"From brick to marble, the walls will be converted,
Seven and fifty peaceful years:
JFK to mankind, the aqueduct renewed,
Health, abundant fruits, joy and honey-making times."

1963 JFK (for 636 Mark of Beast) + 57 Years to 5/21/2020

"For seven days the great star will burn,
The cloud shall make two suns to appear:
The big mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff changes country."
..............
"For seven days the great star will burn,
The cloud shall make two suns to appear:
The big (Mayan Calendar 2nd Sun Jupiter) will howl all night
When the great pontiff changes country."

12/22/2019 Solstice + 157 Days = 5/27/2020 (if begins 5/20, this was specific mayan observance date)
.............
.............
C10Q72
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of “Angolmois”,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

EDIT

Mars Hoax 8/27/2015 + 1666 Days = 3/19/2020 (6 Year Anniversary of Flight 370) ............... a possible comet strike or disturbance of mars ............. (seven months from October in the may to october cycle of halley's comet, comet cycle as observed from earth ............. but with only the month of may in view)

I'm always glad to see others delve into Nostradamus.

However, at the risk of sounding 'preachy, Nostradamus should be taken as written, without veering off into personal interpretations, numerology (as above), and linking virtually any current events, to the quatrains.

The quatrains contain all the information - within the text itself - that describes these events, or - in many cases - it contains the pieces of an event required to make the group of 4 quatrains read as a whole. I know how easy it is to look at a quatrain, and make it fit an argument, and that it looks good to you, but it simply NEVER works, in the end.

Skeptics use such interpretations to bash Nostradamus as a phony, by pointing out how all sorts of things can be interpreted from his writings. And in that, they are quite correct, when using such methods of interpretation, one can make all sorts of different interpretations on the same quatrain, and make it 'fit' their argument. Anyone can shape their argument around an event, by twisting the actual words, by adding numerology into it, when it was never there to begin with, and so on.

Just to point out one of your examples...

"From brick to marble, the walls will be converted,
Seven and fifty peaceful years:
Joy to mankind, the aqueduct renewed,
Health, abundant fruits, joy and honey-making times."
..............
"From brick to marble, the walls will be converted,
Seven and fifty peaceful years:
JFK to mankind, the aqueduct renewed,
Health, abundant fruits, joy and honey-making times."

What does JFK have to do with "Joy.."??

If you make interpretations, they should be based on the actual words within the quatrain. Nostradamus uses many different codes, key words, and links to mythology - Roman and Greek, specifically - to describe the events. But one MUST use the actual words in the quatrains for any interpretation, which will fit perfectly, and cannot be disputed, and cannot be devalued by other interpretations.


This comes from my own work on interpreting his quatrains, and addressing various disputers along the way, and sifting through the interpretations of our so-called 'experts', who are the main problem here, to begin with.

I see that you are very interested in the subject, and various other subjects related to it, which is great. If you do not research the various fields, ancient mythology, and others, you will never be able to interpret the quatrains correctly. But you must hold the quatrains completely intact, and stay within the text, when you relate the text to mythology in real-world terms.

I've mentioned this before, on other threads - each of these quatrains do NOT work alone, or if they do, there is far more information not included in the quatrain. Each event is in groups of 4 separate quatrains within the book, almost always split up from one another, for obvious reasons.


If you jump on a single quatrain, and assume it describes the whole event, you run into many of the problems I've mentioned above. They are open to many different interpretations, and many seem to fit, simply because one vague quatrain can fit anything.

Obviously, you have to start with one quatrain, and try to decipher it, as best you can. In most cases, it fails to work, but if you keep looking, it may reward you in the end, though it may not seem like it at first.

After you find one quatrain that looks promising, you must see if it fits completely with an event, to that point, and that your interpretations are based on the actual text, and nothing extraneous. If so, you might be on the right track. If not, drop the whole thing, and try again.

I'm trying to encourage others in studying the topic, looking for people to interpret things on their own, because it is much more than one person can handle, and it must be approached properly, with groups of 4 quatrains per event.

The group of 4 quatrains per event is something I'd never seen before I started it, and even now, I may be the only one working from that angle. I am absolutely sure it is the unknown key to unlocking all of his work, and the reason nobody could interpret everything properly before, or even make sense of some quatrains as being real events.

For now, I bid you adieu..and bonne chance, mon ami...

originally posted by: Myrmidon
I've been interested in the prophecies of Nostradamus for awhile now and thought that through all his quatrains, there had to have said something about World War III. I came up with a list of his writtings that may (or may not) speak of WW3, and I was wondering if anyone would like to give their interpretations of these predictions.

"From brick to marble, the walls will be converted, -- TRUMPS WALL
Seven and fifty peaceful years: -- 750 ?? if you cut the zero its 75 -- kind of TRUMPS AGE
Joy to mankind, the aqueduct renewed, -- TRUMPS U.S. ECONOMY IS STRONG [i'm not advocating for trump here]
Health, abundant fruits, joy and honey-making times." -- STRONG ECONOMY --> ABUNDANCE OF STUFF

"Of beyond the Black Sea and of the great Tartary, -- Tartary --> There is a tatarstan in russia -- like TRUMP/RUSSIA relations
A king comes who will see Gaul, -- TRUMP is like a king = president (he has links to Europe with his wife being European)
Piercing across Alania and Armenia, -- piercing or fighting through muslim type groups -- trumps muslim policies
And within Byzantium hw will leave his bloody rod." -- Byzantium relating to Rome and Rome is like U.S. -- // bloody rod -- trumps tweets are like a bloody rod against his enemies

"For seven days the great star will burn, -- i don't want to do anymore

The cloud shall make two suns to appear:
The big mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff changes country."

"When those of the arctic pole are united together,
In the East great dread and fear:
Newly elected, supporting the great trembling,
Rhodes, Byzantium with Barbarian blood stained. "

These are just a few that I, and a few others, found interesting. Please, if you have more, or any interpretations of these writtings, share them.

a reply to: Myrmidon
If you only read one book, Nosty will seem super, but after amassing a small library, you see that these "interpreters" are all fakes. A prophesied event has to occur only once, and in one place on the Earth. So Nosty was translating different languages back into his garbled French. Could he read lips?? I live in Idaho, and there is a cluster of fulfillments within 300 miles, if you include Mt. St. Helens, May 18th, 1980, as the Great round Mt. Strato volcanos are great round mts, if you're looking straight down at them from the heavens. So perspectives do count! Benito Mussolini was on Nosty's bad guy list and Nosty laid a real bear trap which I'l Duce' fell into at Dongo, It. in 1945. Ol' Benito was deliberately trying to avoid Nosty's dire prediction, but then ran straight into the four hundred years' earlier, bear trap, anyway. This verse is C. VIII, Q. 31.

Now think on this; if I have cracked a portion of those Thousand ( Ten Centuries ), of prophecies, what would it take for me to blab them around? If I were an academic code breaker, it would be a ribbon in my hat, but what if these fall into a genealogy path up into the branches of my family tree? Last May my wife and I trekked up into the Chateau de Amboise, above the Loire River on a French castles tour, and I got a big surprise. Both Leonardo Da Vinci and Nostradamus are associated with Henry II, and Marie de Medici, who ruled this roost in those two lights' lifetimes. Leonardo's bones were dug up and removed to a secret location during WWII, as Benito Mussolini was demanding that Vichy France return them to Italy. After the war ended, his bones came back to the Chapel of St. Humbertus, where we visited his tomb, last May.

St. Humbertus is the French patron saint of Hunters. Our excellent lady tour guide, mentioned that Marie de Medici dabbled in Black Magic, and that certainly included Nostradamus's magic mirror seances. C.VIII, Q. 78 gives the sigma or threshold, which is the little zero in an algebraic graph, to lead you into the Epistle to Henri, which was penned in French for a French King, presumably, Henri II, and Marie de Medici, holding court at Amboise, Fr. So there's no reason to twist this prose out of it's original French. Get a decent English translation, and you can go on from there.
Edgar Cayce's "Jon", ( Jean ), Peniel prophecy is just another way of writing jeune Selin, from the C.VIII, Q. 31 verse I mentioned above. And as Nosty wrote, you have to drink in the smoke of the lamp, in order to understand his garbled verses. But you still have to have concrete, pardon the pun, places to start one of these "arcs". Gen. Paul Maginot met his fate before Mussolini, from eating a tainted oyster on the half shell. " felled by the least at the wall ". France's Maginot Line, was the greatest cement fortification in history, and the lowly bi-valves' shells were the least at Gen. Maginot's wall.
Ralph Boswell nailed this one about 1941, but post war "interpreters", like J.C. de Fontbrune are still casting it for a coming WWIII.

For seven days the great star will burn,
The cloud shall make two suns to appear:

He predicted two suns?

This is a bit jarring, as I have been contemplating the two separate prophecies about two suns, that partially fit that whole 'comet' thing that people are talking about this year. I am wondering if it's actually the long-awaited second sun, that's supposed to approach our current sun during the 'ending times'. In one channeling, there's an interesting comparison that mentions 'Him, that shines brighter than the new sun' (I will leave up to the reader, Whose return this alludes to).

However, after researching this a bit, I realized the predictions mention the Constellation of Cancer, and the comet is not coming from that direction, as far as I have understood it (I am not an astronomer, so I may have mistaken).

But if Nostradamus really predicted this.. when he mentions that the suns come from 'clouds', it matches, as in the predictions I have, it is mentioned that the sun doesn't become bright until it is under the influence of our sun, which basically 'activates' it from a cloudlike substance and makes it more cohesive and bright, until it starts shining as a sun, as it takes its place next to our sun, and both suns start orbiting a magnetic center between the suns.

I was never sure how to take this whole 'second sun' thing, so I forgot all about it, until I read this bit about Nostradamus saying that the other sun is formed from a cloud. It's not an Earth-cloud, of course, but a cloud of more cosmic nature, and would make sense if taken that way.

However, I have hard time taking this as any kind of definitive event that's going to happen, until I see it happening myself. I can take it as a possibility, but it just seems a bit too weird to be real. Could be that the other sun is symbolic, and refers to something else entirely, as his predictions tend to do.