When will the actuall truth come out?

Ok, I believe the evidence is there that something huge was suppose to happen and is happening before our very eyes. What I believe some people may not agree with but here it goes.

First: Poles shifted a very little when the tsunami hit near indonesia. Enough to see from space. Also, our vibration is climbing. Look up the Schumaan Resonance( I think thats it). Another thing, do a google on how our magnectic field is slowly dropping. Another thing, Take a look at all the severe weather and the havoc mother nature is bringing all over the place. We are an ever changing peice. Notice I say peice. In 2012, or around there, I believe we will literally jump beyond anyones belief. What I mean this is we will be mutated in to a supreme being by energies (maybe the photon belt?). Ive read at many places they think we are going in and out of it through certain times of the year.
I dont know if this is true but I came to a conclusion that our age will end and the truth about EVERYTHING will come out. Life is an illusion get used to it and open up to the truth . Oh yea and the fact that Charlie Sheen has came out on live tv about 9/11 . Also, one that thing what about all of the ufo sitings, alot adds up. Crop Circles and such. Aliens im sure are around but they are here for us to help us through this time. And no doubt there are people out there trying to stop this from happening. just my thoughts.. Any opinions? Just by charlie sheen coming out like he did , will influence alot, it just goes to show that anything can be an illusion. You just got to open you rmind up to ideas!

[edit on 4-4-2006 by jdem02]

1) Actual is spelt with a single "L".

(maybe the photon belt?)

2) Photon Belt?! You've been watcing too much Star Trek. I mean, COME ON!
Set Phasers to "Shut up".

[edit on 4/4/06 by TKL]

Poles shifted a very little when the tsunami hit near indonesia. Enough to see from space.

As far as I know, you can't visibly see magnetic fields from space... or earth for that matter. Even if it did change, it's probably just something natural anyway. We're well overdue for an ice age.

The rest of what you said has already been covered on other threads too.

To Yarco's post:

I am quite new here and I have not researched this whole place. So it goes to show whoever else posted that stuff also knows about it, Another thing, if the magnetic field dropped it could cause chaos because without it we would go insane. Everything would be un balanced. To TKL: I cannot argue your own opinion. Think out side the box dude. You think in your little world of just earth. There is alot unexplained to us.. Idk about astrology but from what I know there is really 13 constellations and not 12. How can you come here and try to argue my opinion when you havent done any research your self? Oh yea and excuse me for my spelling im not perfect like you Your ignorant, im sorry

Maybe the truth already came out and you chose to discard it.

Lets try and avoid the ridicule here folks....

In my opinion, it's only going to come out when either governments or the aliens want it to come out....

I think it will start to come out when we really want it to come out. Most Americans would be too uncomfortable with the truth right now... that's why very few fight for change or ask the real questions. Most of them base their reality around what Fox or CNN is telling them in what little time there is between the commercials of corporate monsters who run the country and work to ensure that measure is taken to keep the people, who willingly give up their allegiance and money, under mental and physical slavery.

Look, blame the gov, J. They are the ones that r hiding secrets, disguised as friggin' reptilians, and doing illegal stuff to us like they own us.

Hey J, welcome. I am new here also.
Lets talk about some of your ideas. I'm a scientist, but a mad crazy one, so I will be looking for the science in your thoughts without being too critical of loose thinking (which I enjoy), and I will give you my feedback about where we stand with that:

First: Poles shifted a very little when the tsunami hit near indonesia. Enough to see from space.

Its true that the earthquake and the resulting tsunami were strong enough to be observed from space in terms of slight alterations to the poles and the earth's rate of rotation. But only a tiny tiny amount. Not enough for you to notice. Did you know that most major earthquakes do the same thing?

Also, our vibration is climbing. Look up the Schumaan Resonance( I think thats it).

The earth's rate of charge dissipation will stay proportional to the rate of charge absorption. In my opinion, even if the resonance frequencies shift slightly, it is only to help compensate and balance the charge across the earth. Its a self maintaining system, in that respect, and not one that I suspect is particularly dangerous for life.

Now, I don't know what will happen if the Earth's magnetic field declines to the point where our magnetosphere fails to trap particles, and the surface of the earth and lower ionosphere starts getting bombarded. But in that case, I think a weak static field modulation will be the least of your worries.

It is true that DNA doesn't like frequencies of around 60 Hz, but that is with respect to much stronger, more localized fields, such as those generated by an electric blanket. I would worry more about your long term exposure to strong electric fields oscillating at 60 Hz within your home. Don't sleep right next to AC wires.

Another thing, do a google on how our magnectic field is slowly dropping.

Its true, some time in the next thousand years or so, we might have a pole reversal, and science cannot really tell you much about how that will affect your health. But keep in mind that mass extinctions do not occur with pole reversals, so obviously it is a survivable event for most species, including large mammals.

Another thing, Take a look at all the severe weather and the havoc mother nature is bringing all over the place.

This weather is all over the place, all of the time. The difference is there is now a commercial industry, a conspiracy, if you will, to drag you down concerning all of the earth's tragedies on a daily basis. It is called the news business, and they make money through the advertising you watch in between believing you are being informed.

We are an ever changing peice. Notice I say peice. In 2012, or around there, I believe we will literally jump beyond anyones belief. What I mean this is we will be mutated in to a supreme

That will be awesome! I can't wait to be totally supreme! I'm not sure what you mean by this, but my pessimistic/(optimistic?) side tends to believe I will spend 2012 on my couch, just like last year.

(maybe the photon belt?).

If a whole lot of high energy photons turn you into a supreme being you will have one hell of a tan! Seriously, what is the physical evidence for the photon belt? Is there any, or is it something that is only ascertained through alien channeling?

Keep in mnd that photons are not concerved particles. They are bosons and they don't really exist as 'particles' the way we normally think of them. There can be more or less photons at any time, they are merely quantizations of EM interactions.

I dont know if this is true but I came to a conclusion that our age will end and the truth about EVERYTHING will come out. Life is an illusion get used to it and open up to the truth .

I would love for this to happen. I hope it does.

Oh yea and the fact that Charlie Sheen has came out on live tv about 9/11 .

Control and manipulation are central to the psychology of many succesful individuals, and they gravitate towards governmental roles. Just stop listening to your appointed leaders, choose your own, and you will have done your fellow man a great service. (For direct evidence, look at the letters President Jackson wrote his cabinet and his private agents.)

Also, one that thing what about all of the ufo sitings, alot adds up. Crop Circles and such. Aliens im sure are around but they are here for us to help us through this time. And no doubt there are people out there trying to stop this from happening. just my thoughts.. Any opinions? Just by charlie sheen coming out like he did , will influence alot, it just goes to show that anything can be an illusion. You just got to open you rmind up to ideas!

Here comes my opinion. People's belefs are largely a matter of programming, more than some resonance with a truth. Nothing will be coming out, and no one is going to change. The future requires that we program our youth to behave differently than their parents. So who is going to program the kids in the ghetto to escape? The music industry is happy to make money of victim mentality. Who is going to program the rich kids to give a damn (for real), get real, and have humility? Certainly not MTV. No one is going to help. Who is going to teach the rural poor to question their idolitrization of misplaced faith. Brookes and Dunn won't. Things will likely continue to accentuate along the lines of popular media. But other than that, the existing control mechanisms cannot change until our civilization collapses, and that is some ways off yet.

[edit on 5-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]

[edit on 5-4-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]

Okay I just wanna clarify several things to jdem02. I was in a very boring moment of my day and I thought I would try to piss someone off. Sadly, in this case, I failed quite miserably. As to the fact that you think I am ignorant enough not to even research my arguments, I would like to point out that I am not ignorant I just couldn't care less about the slightest movements of our magnetic field or whatever(By this point you've probably noticed I didn't even really read your post). In fact, the whole point of sending that reply was not to simply to undermine you, but also because I felt I had to reply to a post that others hadn't contributed to at the time.

Hello Ecto,

I am not arguing since you are a scientist but I will throw a little bit back in through my spirtuality. Ok here we go. I will add a little to what you wrote

First:
Ok yes, you are right. The North Pole moved 2.5 centimeters. In an eastward shift that is part of a long term seismic shift. And then we lost 2.68 Milliseconds in daytime. Now this could be all shaping up to what people have predicted about 2012. Anything can change quick we have seen this. Considering if 10 major earth quakes hit in a year that could move the poles and make our time decrease. Over a period of 6 years im sure a shift would occur because of this.
Source
Second:
Schumans Resonance:
Earth's Rising Base Frequency Earth's background base frequency, or "heartbeat," (called Schumann resonance, or SR) is rising dramatically. Though it varies among geographical regions, for decades the overall measurement was 7.8 cycles per second. This was once thought to be a constant; global military communications developed on this frequency. Recent reports set the rate at over 11 cycles, and climbing. Science doesn't know why, or what to make of it. Source
About the DNA. When the Schuman Resonance reaches 13 cycles it would mutate our dna. Think about it. But also it may be a bad thing ALSO causing the magnetic field to fail. No magnetic field= chaos if your not at peace.

Third:Magnetic Field:
Considering that ships, planes and Boy Scouts steer by it, Earth's magnetic field is less reliable than you'd think. Rocks in an ancient lava flow in Oregon suggest that for a brief erratic span about 16 million years ago magnetic north shifted as much as 6 degrees per day. After little more than a week, a compass needle would have pointed toward Mexico City.

The lava catches Earth's magnetic field in the act of reversing itself. Magnetic north heads south, and -- over about 1,000 years -- the field does a complete flip-flop. While the Oregon data is controversial, Earth scientists agree that the geological evidence as a whole -- the "paleomagnetic" record -- proves such reversals happened many times over the past billion years.

"Some reversals occurred within a few 10,000 years of each other," says Los Alamos scientist Gary Glatzmaier, "and there are other periods where no reversals occurred for tens of millions of years." How do these flip-flops happen, and why at such irregular intervals? The geological data, invaluable to show what happened, registers only a mute shrug when it comes to the deeper questions.

For that matter, why is it that instead of quietly fading away, as magnetic fields do when left to their own devices, Earth's magnetic field is still going strong after billions of years? Einstein is said to have considered it one of the most important unsolved problems in physics. This goes to show it can be anytime expecially if science dont know when the last one was. It can happen any day.

Source

Four: I dont watch tv and dont get my news from there. I hate mainstream media they are good for nothing. Also, there is proof out there that the weather is alot worse then it has been. No telling when the weather and natural events were like this. An earthquake like everyday, volcano's going up, tornado's cyclones hurricanes. Its definatly alot worse now then it ever was ... By the way, im not scared of any of this because its all for a reason. I am not religious but I do believe in god. I follow my spirit not some book jesus passed down so all of history could be rewritten. No thank you.

Five:It may be just another day, but changes are over time. I do believe from now till about 2015 we will see a huge change. Think of it this way professor (sorry I call all scientists that). What if everything fell down. If you believe in ghosts. You would be able to see them. Think of it that way. Ok but another example: I am a 3d physical being. If someone from 4d or 5d reached his hand in this world we would be like what the? So figure, your a stick figure in 1d, and I reach my hand in to your world. You would be like what the? Yea. Understand what I mean? There, I believe, is alot more hidden from us and only time will tell when they start rippin apart iraq, iran, and egypt under the pyramids. Iraq is already got a big spot closed off for them researchers

Six: NO there is no scientific evidence on the photon belt, but who says something out there exists that we dont know about. Look at how many stars are out there. What if some planet with this energy of somekind came near us and totally changed us because of the mutational properties of the energy. Just a theory. That I do not have proof on or anything it was just something to talk about

Seven: Well, about 9/11 I believe it was a set up anyways. There is no doubt if you watch every video the detail is there. How could a woman be seen in a video in the towers standing next to the opening where the plane hit. If it was hot enough to burn steel how could someone lived through all that. It was an inside implosion. Set up for real and the truth about that is not very far away now that FAMOUS actors are coming out in public with it.

Eight: Our country(usa) is collapsing at the moment. Also, if earth is going to just get more violent over the years why would u want to be here in 6 years? Plain and simple... Good always defeats evil even if it takes evil to defeat evil.
Light over comes darkness in EVERYTHING. Peace is the answer but there is more and more happening then you think. Its just going to get worse but in the end it will be a magnificient place to live. Hopi's maya and all those ancient civilizations believed in almost the same things. They obviously knew something big would happen.

Last thing: its ok TKL your cool anyways.> You have your own believes and I have mine so I stay at peace with that

The Truth Will Come Out Plain and Simple

[edit on 5-4-2006 by jdem02]

Originally posted by Gazrok
Lets try and avoid the ridicule here folks....

In my opinion, it's only going to come out when either governments or the aliens want it to come out....

Yes, when they want it to. But I also feel the pressure is increasing through increased sightings and world-wide incidents re EBEs/UFOs.
15-20 years ago discussing UFOs would make most laugh and ridicule, now guess what--? Tomorrow guess what --??

I'm trying to find info on "Harry Bates", the Man who inspired the 1951 movie - "The Day The Earth Stood Still", as he seemed to know more than most then and as most UFO believers do now.
But I have not had success finding his book or anything about the man.

Dallas

Originally posted by Gazrok
Lets try and avoid the ridicule here folks....

In my opinion, it's only going to come out when either governments or the aliens want it to come out....

I believe it will be the aliens. They probably could alter our governments intentions of disclosure any TIME they wanted. Perhaps this it why the governments has not disclosed. I am not trying to take up for our government but maybe it is just out of their hands. Maybe people have not thought about that. Maybe our government is threaten by them. It has always bothered me why some private at the Roswell crash never came forward with info on their death bed. Maybe this is higher than we know. He may know that if he did come forward with the truth then we would ALL be hurt by "Them".

or

If not threaten by aliens, perhaps the movies, TV, news ect. were suggested by the aliens to give us the chance to adjust. Look what really did happen with the Orson Wells Broadcast. Perhaps a dry run for disclosure. After all they are more advanced and would know the best for everyone to except their existence. With the advancements made in the last 50 years, people have now changed from the traditional ways of thinking and living their lives. The traditional churches of 50 years ago have changed so much. I could go on and on about this but hopefully you get my meaning.

Just a thought.




[edit on 5-4-2006 by Truthforall]

[edit on 5-4-2006 by Truthforall]

The truth will come out when hell freezes over and an alien species can cut fine slices of the pie and examine them without the worms being able to manipulate the eyes of the 'beholder'.

Other than that, we know the truth, it's just hard to sit here comfortably when it feels like so much foreign 'matter' is forcing it's way up our backs.

Just what is it that gives you indication that the poles have the primary role in whats happening in "our" world. There are so many things to consider. Common sense would go to say that a shift in anything that rules our continuance would be noteworthy, just because it all has to be part of the equation. With all the things that would ultimately factor into our existence, what factual evidence do you have that pole alignment is the reason for our worldly change?

If you did your generic pros and cons list there would indefinitely be too many factors to single it out to pole alignment. I KNOW, that it goes deeper than that. Just the mere mention of that being the primary involvement of "change" makes me wonder where your mindset lies. If I read correctly, you believe that pole alignment is the "just cause" for our worlds shift of behaviors. That's a foul stench to the word "vague". There are so many contributing factors that ultimately you should look more outside the box. There NEVER is just one factor to a conclusion, ever. Mathematically, scientifically, or even common sensually this could simply not be the only source of our disruption.

If I have misunderstood your "reason" to use the justification that the "poles" are our primary reason for disruption, I do apologize. I just believe that there are SO many factors. Too many of them accurate to be dismissed.

I feel that there is an outer source guiding us all on our paths. Paths we won't know for sure until we've reached the end. I'm not bashing your ideals. I'm just simply arguing the fact that the conclusion you have reached makes no logical sense when all accommodating truths have been added to the elaborate equation This is by no means an attack. Its an retort regarding belief vs belief.


Thank you for your time,
LogicVSReason