Hell is for the weak

does that mean we have freechoice to "spill the beans" not to direct anyone or anything like that...

Originally posted by TheyWatchYouToo
And what does this happen to do with conspiracies?

Because, hell itself is a conspiracy to keep good natured people in fear. Fear causes self centeredness and lack of action. Hell itself is an integral part of the conspiracy and the fear keeps the conspiracy running.

Some additional comment on the Bama Seat. There will be two judgements. One for those whose names are written in the Book of Works; one for those whose names are written in the Book of Life. The first judgement listed is called the White Throne Judgement. You don't want to be in that one. Those who names are written in the Books of Works will face the White Throne Judgement and there is only one verdict - Hell. Those who names are written in the Book of Life will also be judged (the Bama Seat). In this Judgement God will reward those who did well during their life (Crown of Righteousness, etc.). Paul describes the Bama Seat judgement in 1 Corinithians Chapter 3:11 - 3:15

[Edited on 13-10-2003 by jagdflieger]

Originally posted by uIVIa
That's right, you heard me. Hell is for all the spineless, gutless, will-less herd of sheep. Hell is reserved for all the christians that do no more than sit in a pew on sundays. The meek shall inherit the earth but the strong willed fighters shall inherit heaven. Remember the parable of the sower? What do the majority of christians do with the talents given to them by the Master? They stuff em in their pocket and sit on them. They save their talents and wait for the Master's return. WEAK!

They sit in church week after week and do nothing. They don't even complain anymore because they wouldn't want to disrupt their comfort. Oh yea, 95% of christians are going to hell for sure! For those that want to go to hell it won't be hell for them it will be heaven. But for those so scared of hell, guess what, prepare for eternal damnation for your weak spirit. What do you have to offer the Master upon his return? That one talent stuffed in your pocket squished by the collective fat ass of christianity!

So I take it you don't believe in God?

Originally posted by 10DeadInside10

Originally posted by uIVIa
That's right, you heard me. Hell is for all the spineless, gutless, will-less herd of sheep. Hell is reserved for all the christians that do no more than sit in a pew on sundays. The meek shall inherit the earth but the strong willed fighters shall inherit heaven. Remember the parable of the sower? What do the majority of christians do with the talents given to them by the Master? They stuff em in their pocket and sit on them. They save their talents and wait for the Master's return. WEAK!

They sit in church week after week and do nothing. They don't even complain anymore because they wouldn't want to disrupt their comfort. Oh yea, 95% of christians are going to hell for sure! For those that want to go to hell it won't be hell for them it will be heaven. But for those so scared of hell, guess what, prepare for eternal damnation for your weak spirit. What do you have to offer the Master upon his return? That one talent stuffed in your pocket squished by the collective fat ass of christianity!

So I take it you don't believe in God?

Nah, God to me is all creation and the consciousness behind and interpenetrating all of creation. You my friend, are God also. A small piece of God that hasn't realized the gravity of the gift given, God in potential if you will. But an integral piece of God none the less. Therefore I must show All the same respect I show God. Sometimes though, you gotta pick a side to get a good discussion going.

My God rocks the universe infinity times eternity. Since, you know, my God is the universe.

[Edited on 13-10-2003 by uIVIa]

Originally posted by bigsage
does that mean we have freechoice to "spill the beans" not to direct anyone or anything like that...

I would say Yes. The beans are currently being spilled anyway. Just figure out the meaning of crop circles and you'll see we are being given the keys to our collective freedom.

Spill away Big Sage!

Jagdflieger,
Here are some examples of works in combo with faith that is pleasing to God.

James 2:24 - the phrase "faith alone" (the Greek "pisteos monon") only occurs once in the Bible. "Man is justified by works and NOT faith alone." Unlike what many Protestant churches teach, no where in Scripture does it say that man is justified or saved by "faith alone."

Gal. 5:6 - the faith that justifies us is faith working through love, not faith alone.

James 1:22-25 - it's the "doers" who are justified, not the hearers. Justification is based on works. We need "fides formata."

James 2:17 - James clearly teaches that faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. Works is a cause, not just an effect, of our justification.

Rom. 6:16 - obedience leads to righteousness. Obedience is a good "work," an act of the will, which leads to righteousness before God.

2 Cor. 9:8 - Paul teaches that God will bless us so that we may provide in abundance for "every good work." Good works are encouraged to complete our faith.

Eph. 6:8 - whatever good anyone does will receive the same again from the Lord. God rewards good works done in grace.

Titus 3:8 - good deeds are excellent and profitable to men. Good deeds further justify us before God.

1 Peter 2:7-8; John 3:36 - shows that belief in Jesus means obeying Jesus. Having faith means being faithful, which requires works as well. Hence, obeying Jesus means doing works of love, not just having faith alone.

So as you can see good works are important with the workings of faith. You need good works too.

If Heaven is filled with nothing but Ned Flanders wanna-bees....then for goodness sakes, I'll do a swan dive into the Lake of Fire myself!

and as Ned Flanders would say Gaz.....Okely Dokely! LOL!

Originally posted by Gazrok
If Heaven is filled with nothing but Ned Flanders wanna-bees....then for goodness sakes, I'll do a swan dive into the Lake of Fire myself!

Thump! Thump! Thump! Hear That? That's my bible! This is my bible, this is my gun, this one's for thumping this is for fun. (oh the humanity)

Originally posted by Cearbhall
Jagdflieger,
Here are some examples of works in combo with faith that is pleasing to God.

James 2:24 - the phrase "faith alone" (the Greek "pisteos monon") only occurs once in the Bible. "Man is justified by works and NOT faith alone." Unlike what many Protestant churches teach, no where in Scripture does it say that man is justified or saved by "faith alone."

Gal. 5:6 - the faith that justifies us is faith working through love, not faith alone.

James 1:22-25 - it's the "doers" who are justified, not the hearers. Justification is based on works. We need "fides formata."

James 2:17 - James clearly teaches that faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. Works is a cause, not just an effect, of our justification.

Rom. 6:16 - obedience leads to righteousness. Obedience is a good "work," an act of the will, which leads to righteousness before God.

2 Cor. 9:8 - Paul teaches that God will bless us so that we may provide in abundance for "every good work." Good works are encouraged to complete our faith.

Eph. 6:8 - whatever good anyone does will receive the same again from the Lord. God rewards good works done in grace.

Titus 3:8 - good deeds are excellent and profitable to men. Good deeds further justify us before God.

1 Peter 2:7-8; John 3:36 - shows that belief in Jesus means obeying Jesus. Having faith means being faithful, which requires works as well. Hence, obeying Jesus means doing works of love, not just having faith alone.

So as you can see good works are important with the workings of faith. You need good works too.

Thanks! I knew there was more. Plus, you can't gain spiritual momentum by sitting still. You got to Do sumpin'!

Didn't Jesus say to "know thyself". I Am electrons. This is a proven fact. How do electrons behave?

Electrons(charged particle) = Electric field
Electrons + Acceleration = Magnetic field
Electrons + Acceleration + Change in Velocity = Electromagnetic field

To put into spiritual terms...
The particle must be charged first or their is no field of influence. To charge the particle one must choose a polarity with Will. Positive or Negative. To get to the next level or to gain increased spiritual density, to increase the area of influence and to increase the dynamic influence of that area you must have acceleration. Acceleration is caused by moving in a particular direction (towards a pole). And the level after that one must be able to change directions while maintaining balance and momentum to ensure the smallest decrease of polarity as possible.

But don't worry. We got plenty of help or as some would call it, Love. We are moving a 3.18 million miles a day are we not (acceleration)? That's quite a haul in 24 hours. So that also means we are never in the same spot twice (change in velocity). Or as it was so musically put...


Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown,
And things seem hard or tough,
And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft,

And you feel that you've had quite eno-o-o-o-o-ough,

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine thousand miles an hour.
It's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
'Round the sun that is the source of all our power.
Now the sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day,
In the outer spiral arm, at fourteen thousand miles an hour,
Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred million stars;
It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.
We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
We go 'round every two hundred million years;
And our galaxy itself is one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.



Our universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
In all of the directions it can whiz;
As fast as it can go, that's the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!


-- Eric Idle

To answer this question one has to understand what Hell is,
1- A place or state of misery, torment, or wickedness
2-: a place or state of turmoil or destruction

Hell is simply a state of mind, Hell is not an actual realm where demons and the devil reside.

Hell resides in our mind as does Heaven.

Deep

UI,
Wow that is a good way to look at things, never thought of it that way. Your a man before your time!

Originally posted by Cearbhall
UI,
Wow that is a good way to look at things, never thought of it that way. Your a man before your time!

Thank you Cearbhall. I was kinda hoping though that I wasn't a man before my time. Because it really is immense fun mixing science, religion, spirituality, metaphysics, philosophy, geology, mathematics, geometry and all those listed here into one big crystalized thought center that is that which I am.

UI,
You remind me of a Jack-of-trades of sorts or maybe like a Renaissance man or yore. LOL!