The Question of the Hour

I was sitting in church yesterday and the preacher was preaching on genesis. I just happened to notice that when he read genesis chapter 1 verse 28 he said the words replenish. I thought he made an error in his reading but I double checked and he didn’t. The question of the hour for religious and non-religious people here at ATS is: Does this verse from the bible prove that there were other “humanoids” here before Adam and Eve.

001:028 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and
multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have
dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the
air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Replenish the earth. The word replenish means: To fill or make complete again; add a new stock or supply to: replenish the larder. (Source: www.dictionary.com
(link dictionary.reference.com...)

So I can’t help but ask the question why did Adam and Eve have the task of filling of making complete the earth again?

Edit: All caps title.


[edit on 13-3-2006 by intrepid]

Did a quick search on answering genesis to see what the religous argument was for it (wasn't hard at all) ...

Turns out your idea is abit wrong, religously speaking.

www.answersingenesis.org...

1. The word translated ‘replenish’ (KJV) simply means ‘fill’ in the Hebrew.
2. In the English of King James’ day, ‘replenish’ also usually meant ‘fill’, not ‘refill’.
3. The word ‘replenish’ therefore cannot be used to support ideas about a previous creation, which was destroyed. In any case, such erroneous theories, invented in response to the ‘millions of years’ idea, must hold to the unbiblical notion that there was death and suffering before Adam’s sin.

So why use the word replenish did they not have the word fill in biblical times?

That was how the word was used back in those time's. Language's evolve over time, new words invented, old words redefined or take on new meaning's. Replenish was the word for 'fill'.

Originally posted by spaceman16
So why use the word replenish did they not have the word fill in biblical times?

The writers in biblical times did say fill. When the bible was translated to english in the KJV, in english replenish meant the same thing as fill. Its only today that it has a different meaning in english.

Which is intersting, because it shows how an important aspect of the religion can be completely changed by translation. Even within a language it can change!

The word in Gen1:28 in the greek is maw-lay=maw-law = to fill ,or befull of.

spaceman16:

you are correct. This refers to the modern man being designed to replace the lesser primitives.

there is still many clues in the bible to this world's true history if one reads carefully.

also look to the older bibles for better translations.

that is so wrong!what bible do you need to read to come up with that? there is only one man which is adam! to confrim this read the torah if this helps it has the same thing written as the kjv,don't be confuzzed,

If there was only one man and he had children and the children had children with their brothers and sisters then why wasn’t there imbedding? You think after the 3rd generation of brother and sisters have children with each other that they would begin to look deformed.

Originally posted by Orca
that is so wrong!what bible do you need to read to come up with that? there is only one man which is adam!

There is nothing that says that other people didn't exist, merely that Adam was directly created in the garden of eden. It also notes that cain, the son of adam, when exiled, is able to find full cities of people in the rest of the world. Its probable that adam is merely the ancestor of the hebrews, the first of them, created specifically by god. This, indeed, is how creation myths usually go, it talks about the creation of the world, how the first member of the tribe was created, and how the world came to its current state.

Could you tell me the chapter and verse of where Cain found the other cities full of people? That would be interesting to ask my preacher about and see what he has to say.

Sounds like somebody's mixing up the official Bible release with bits of the Apocrypha. Or the Urantia Book. Or just hallucinating.

Originally posted by spaceman16
Could you tell me the chapter and verse of where Cain found the other cities full of people? That would be interesting to ask my preacher about and see what he has to say.

Well, it does say that a mark was put on him so people would recognize him and not kill him.

Genesis 4:

15And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Now, who is going to be after him, and where the hell this "wife" came from is anybody's guess. I can only assume the verse is referring to some kind of proto-hominid.

well some times the truth hurts, adam was made from the dust,God breathed life in to adam,He put adam into a deep sleep, and took adam rib and made women,after adam sin , adam and eve had many children,they lived a very long life, this is where cain found his wife, more than likley it was a sister, back than their was no law for imbredding,the only law was to be fruitful and muitply the earth, only latter that imbreeding became forbiden.most people try to find another way for cain to find a wife they can't take the truth, and if you look very close adam wife is flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone.

Originally posted by Enkidu
Sounds like somebody's mixing up the official Bible release with bits of the Apocrypha.

Apologies, he builds a city

Genesis 4:
17 Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city

The implication is that there are people to gather into a city.
Also,

Genesis 4:
15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [a] ; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod

Interesting firstly that its 'out of the lord's pressence and into the land of nod', since when are there limits to omni-present god? Regardless, there is a recognition that there are other people out there who will kill him, other people, not 'his family.'

17Cain lay with his wife

not his sister or neice? He's married outside the group. There are many wives of the progeny of adam, mutliple wives for some men infact, but they aren't noted as the children of adam and eve. The context does seem to be of there being other people, with the proginator of the hebrews being adam.

Their Are many groups that believe in the serpent seed,teaching's -such as the (shepard chaple) which they believe adam was created on the 8th day,and mankind set apart from the garden was created on the six day! they believe this is where Cain meet his wife=6day creation,this could explain the mark in which cain recievd to save his life.,but also they believe that cain is of the serpent seed and all his decendents!

It says here at wiki that the word nod translates as wandering, and that Cain was cursed to wander. Not that he was exiled to a land of wanderers. (but that still wouldn’t explain where his wife came from)

en.wikipedia.org...

and this site discusses where the land of nod and the city of Enoch was

nabataea.net...

Originally posted by spaceman16
It says here at wiki that the word nod translates as wandering, and that Cain was cursed to wander. Not that he was exiled to a land of wanderers. (but that still wouldn’t explain where his wife came from)

en.wikipedia.org...

and this site discusses where the land of nod and the city of Enoch was

nabataea.net...

In all likelyhood adam and eve are only part of the Hebrew creation myth. They were the creators of the hebrews and as with most creation myths they are given godlike status. Adam and eve might never have existed and its only myth that keeps them 'alive'. All genesis is is a creation myth like all the other creation myths from around the world nothing more.
As for cains wife there were many people on the planet at the time not just adam and his tribe.


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