According To World Famous Alex Jones, NWO may be in its Final Stages.

infowars.com...

I am physically afraid for the first time in my life

Okay I'm going to offer a sensible reply but before I do

Physically afraid ?? ..... grow up pansy boy! Stop being so over dramatic about an Internet article

First off that article has been put togeather by a person who works on the prisonplanet website ..... what do you expect him to come out and say. i do however actually see this COULD be possible and I'll now explain why

Serious national emergencies can happen. There could be a massive incident that means learge amounts of people need to be moved and contained (this would be done for your own GOOD)
Any government that is trying to control a situation where a large population are effected need to take steps to sort out the situation ...... surely this is what the people of the USa would expect in times of need.

Okay so there are stories that there are big camps being setup ....... the reason for this is that there are a LOT of people in the USA

Why is there such a big military link with these camps, that's even easier to answer if you look at your country.

Imagine if you will a massive US city gets a serious emergency and the government need to evacuate the population for their own good (they ARE actually helping you people)

If this were to happen in MY country (the UK) then I'm sure the people would panic, people would semi riot and the police would have to contain us with force. People naturally panic in these situations, they want to run away and run free away from everyone else ....... this doesnt help the overall situation that the governent is trying to sort out

Back to the USA

So your large US city is in serious trouble, what do all the citizens do ........ grab your guns and your pepper spray and your tazer guns and anything else your allowed to have (this is madness in a civilized nation)

NOW can you see why there is a lot of military presence at these camps? People need to be contained, SOMEONE needs to keep law and order. How would the situation be helped with everyone running around blasting off their guns?

These are backup emergency plans ONLY ..... there is no big conspiracy, they are plans to HELP you and if you think there is a big cover up from the NWO then your have been wathcing too much Sci-fi channel.

It is a government security measure to HELP its people. Yes they are detemtion camps, no point in calling them holiday camps because they arnt.

If something bad heppens just go with the flow my freind, the HELP, the medical staff, the food, the law and order will be THERE.

Dont think you can fight off hoards of roaming nutters in your local street with guns blazing, keep yopur head down and try to stay safe.

Snatchypaws

[edit on 2-3-2006 by snatchypaws]

snatchypaws,

This is no joke - this is happening and another terrorist attack is also due. I read that article and the globalists' plan, code named, "END GAME" has ONLY to do with them rounding us up, taking our guns and placing us into concentration camps. Alex Jones sources everything and I am convinced that he is correct - he was correct about 9-11 months before - I trust him more than anyone else! And yes, "they" will target political adversaries first and that is why for many years, FEMA has been training to disarm US citizens and take them to camps. They know the pensions are gone, they know that after one more terrorist attack they can enforce martial law and the draft - and that is not something to be justified over tea time!

We had better hope that you're right and that these camps are about having too many people - (illegal aliens, as they are now telling us) but I seriously doubt the camps are for illegal aliens, as they are pro open border with Mexico. I do think they want to throw the gun slinging Americans in there - along with those who believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Did they grab enough guns in the UK yet? Last time I checked they were conducting some PR on sweet little old ladies to hand over their knives (over a certain length) - to protect the criminals of course. Stalin and Hitler love gun control and could you guess for what reason they claimed to need the Gulags? Was it to keep order and stop terrorists?

They once lied to us about the camps in the past, telling us they do not exist and it’s all just a big conspiracy theory. And now.....they do admit they exist but claim they are a place to relax and relocate - don't be so sure the camps were created "in secret" simply because there are too many rowdy people in the USA.

Remember, just as with World Government, they first tell us it’s only a conspiracy theory, and now the UN is openly calling for World Government - this is all mainstream news cause they need us to accept and legitimize their plan (whereas Hitler was never so bold) and those in the know, understand exactly that those who control the UN, also control the USA.


[edit on 2-3-2006 by markusjharper]

Originally posted by markusjharper
Did they grab enough guns in the UK yet?

We never had them in the first place. 5 years mandatory just for a possession of a hand gun now. We have never had a gun culture over here, and most people in the UK find it pretty repulsive and scary.

Last time I checked they were conducting some PR on sweet little old ladies to hand over their knives (over a certain length) - to protect the criminals of course.

What the hell are you on about?!? There was an amensty on illegal knives, such as flick knives. Pointless excersise, but where did you get the "sweet little old ladies" bit from? Would you like to tell me how this stunt "protects criminals"?

if your that sensitive to fear mongering, you must be having a rough go lately.

wasn't FEMA setting up detainment camps after Katrina


if the NWO could just round people up and make them do what they wanted them to do, wouldn't Iraq be full of "gulags" ??


so whats the story, are we going to be taken over by lizards or evil old white men ?

Why do they need to have gulags?

They have Iminent Domain. All they need to do is take everyones houses who they think is gonna try and otherthrow them (if they are really planning whatever).

[edit on 2/3/06 by byhiniur]

We never had them in the first place. 5 years mandatory just for a possession of a hand gun now. We have never had a gun culture over here, and most people in the UK find it pretty repulsive and scary.

What, no hunters and no guns in England - you must be joking? Canada also has many more guns than what most people think but my point is that the UK people are already less able to protect themselves in the event of a government becoming tyrannical.

In the UK, are you allowed to shoot the robber who comes to steal from you in your home at night while you sleep? Even when it's under a certain dollar amount? (It's kinda true and you know darn well what I mean by the victim too often being referred to as the criminal)

What the hell are you on about?!? There was an amensty on illegal knives, such as flick knives. Pointless excersise, but where did you get the "sweet little old ladies" bit from? Would you like to tell me how this stunt "protects criminals"?

Here's the article I was referring to. It's total BS that they are ONLY after illegal knives. If you disagree, please do tell me why?

www.prisonplanet.com...

[edit on 2-3-2006 by markusjharper]

if the NWO could just round people up and make them do what they wanted them to do, wouldn't Iraq be full of "gulags" ??

Iraq is full of Gulags!

so whats the story, are we going to be taken over by lizards or evil old white men ?

Sarcasm is a weak-minded approach - you don't need to add in "lizards" to the discussion.

They have that eminent procedure. All they need to do is take everyones houses who they think is gonna try and otherthrow them (if they are really planning whatever).

They are already taking homes, and parks, and roads and farms etc - but soon they will start openly telling us how it’s for the greater good and we will continue to hear the yellow-bellied cowards making excuses for the government.



[edit on 2-3-2006 by markusjharper]

Wierd...
When i reply to this post... it says info is being downloaded from tribalfusion.com as the page was loading... maybe someones avatar
never saw that before... Oh well.

First off... this isn't neccessarily a NWO thing... but just the same stupid move that was made during WW2...

except the media and info circles made it harder to hear anything but the government line at that time, so public desent, was reserved for japanese, and sympathizers to the japanese...
Of course, suicide bombing wasn't the thing back then, so reprisals were an afterthought.

this time, there are a lot more people to round up, and this time...the regular citizens see past the smoke screen...
they can't imprison all of us...

they can however (as proven by the Nazis) round up one group at a time, and slowly but surely eliminate all opposition...

in this case, they would have to have even more prisons built by the prisoners, to house the new bunch of grumblers that were griping about the last bunch being rounded up...

I do not beleive that even one fourth of our military would fire upon unarmed civil protesters... so I doubt the verdict of "round em up and kill em" could happen.

if we go to war with Iran... I would predict some muslim roundups...
the funny thing is, they would be rounding up Shia (iranian) muslims, while the saudi Extremists would probably be protected from persecution, much like the Saudis were protected after 9-11...

In a military servey - Approx 75% of US soldiers would not shoot an unarmed American. But 25% would and that's why we have FEMA and the United Nations - also consider why they like to give the survey because now we can see where all the good American troops are being used - that is, overseas and away from the homeland where we need them to protect us!

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond - i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion or "Terrorists" attacks, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted
to them by the World Government."

-- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

Originally posted by markusjharper

if the NWO could just round people up and make them do what they wanted them to do, wouldn't Iraq be full of "gulags" ??

Iraq is full of Gulags!

Really where? Which city/cities? Oh wait, someone told you that so it must be a fact. What exactly to you define as a gulag? Abu Gharib? If you consider that a gulag let me remind you that Leavenworth federal prison, San Quentin, even local county jails could all be considered gulags.

See here's the thing, maybe they arn't so bad. For instance, we took into custody a man that was not only witnessed blowing up a day care, but he also started shooting at my unit injuring several soldiers as well as some civilians nearby. So of course we take him in, hand him over to the Iraqis who end up taking him to that big bad Abu Gharib place where babies are tossed into paper shredders, (that part I'm kidding about) and guess what, about 5 1/2 months later while walking through an alley this exact same man puts 3 rounds of 7.62x39 into my CO. So hey, if a gulag is a place where your sent after you blow up daycares, and shoot and kill military as well as civilians and end up walking the streets in less than 6 months it really must not be THAT bad.

This is the one thing my mind gets stuck on everytime when it comes to this whole NWO subject. Alarms are going off again about a supposed jail, did anything ever turn up with the hundreds of camps that were supposed to be in every state, what about the guillotines? Are you folks aware of how many places could be used as holding facilities in literally minutes? Or the fact that the military can set up a prison camp in less than a day, granted this would involve people in tents. Hell why even build it, if you can use an existing school or airport property. If the NWO is really that serious why even build a jail? Why not just toss some people in the middle of a field, some M-2's on four courners and anyone that so much as looks outside the field gets nailed with some .50BMG? If their endgame is to kill us, they why the camps?

In the end it doesn't really matter cause the people have the power even if the NWO takes over. You were given the right by our founding fathers to take back the power if it should come to that point. Not only that, but a insurgency in the U.S. would make Iraq look like Disneyland, and I'm sure "they're" well aware of that.

Remember, any place where there's high ground, a fenced in area, or natural barriers, can be used as a prison or holding facility in mere minutes. All you need is some belt fed MG's and guys to run em.

I also think you'd find that alot less than 25% of the military would "join in disarming/imprisoning us" so to speak. Why do you think our government is all excited about the "Private Soldier"? Look at Katrina, it wasn't the Army you should have feared, you should have been fearing the "Kill for kicks, shoot civilians for fun Nazish Blackwater."

[edit on 2-3-2006 by WithoutEqual]

WithoutEqual,

I get much from your post but let’s try and keep this focussed on the Gulags in America and not in Iraq. I never brought up Iraq - another poster here brought it up. And no, I am not going provide you with any satellite photos of the cities and try and get into a ridiculous debate with you over the very definition of a Gulag – neither will I bother posting the pictures of abuses occurring in these places, so lets stick with America. Your also saying that Iraq may not have Gulags and then you go on to imply that it is not such a bad idea – well, again I am not going to get into a discussion about what you think is a good idea, or not. The Gulags in America are a fact and if our prisons need more space or medical supplies than may be there is a bigger issue than the space and resources to deal with, see? Just because they can place a fence around an open space and make a holding cell anywhere, cannot make moot the proof that there are Gulags in America. Since they are expecting a need for them, are we supposed to just downplay the significance - it sounds like you are attempting to imply that things cannot get much worse.... and that is a poor argument.

You were given the right by our founding fathers to take back the power if it should come to that point. Not only that, but a insurgency in the U.S. would make Iraq look like Disneyland, and I'm sure "they're" well aware of that.

Now, we both agree that this time (to take it back) is past due and this reality also explains why we are now witnessing the fanatical behaviour of the globalists lately. Their window of opportunity is fast closing and people are waking up. But if your in some way implying that this reality proves that their cannot be a conspiracy against us, and that the globalists will still not try and get us to the point where we are helpless and put us methodically into camps, I’m afraid your sadly mistaken.

I also think you'd find that alot less than 25% of the military would "join in disarming/imprisoning us" so to speak. Why do you think our government is all excited about the "Private Soldier"? Look at Katrina, it wasn't the Army you should have feared, you should have been fearing the "Kill for kicks, shoot civilians for fun Nazish Blackwater."

Katrina was a FEMA success and I personally see FEMA as one of the greatest threats to the average American. Btw, the results of 75% and 25% may seem awful but certainly we have only to look around us to see that obviously the NWO would not have had much success rate without bootlickers (who do not know the difference between an Executive Order and the US Constitution) just going along to get along and following orders.

The question is: "do you think the Constitution is only a God-damn piece of paper"? Well, our leaders do and they plan to rape and torture your children - I hope that makes it easier for us to find excuses for these Satanic thugs in the White House.

can we get a count down timer for this ? when can we officially shoot this thread ? a month ? 6 months ? a year ?

Even though I am new to this site, this subject has been a demon of mine sense I was 6. My older felt it to be his duty to expose to me to the New World Order s soon as possible. I am now 19, have close family all across the country and I know whats real. I live in a inner city. We get the affect be fore the suburbans do. I know that police kill young men and it dosent make the new because they are gangmembers. Some with a possiblity to change. But this is on a even grander scale. This is what Watergate was talking about. If you study Watergate, you know this is what Corporations all over the world wanted to accomplish. I am afraid, that what I have been studying for 13 years is finally about to come to pass. I am not stupid and I have a young witful mind. I pray every night. I tell as many people as I can. But there are people who are stuck on stupid, as a general stationed in New Orleans would say. Maybe those who dont get it deserve there own ignorant demise, but for those who are keen to the era of repeated history is upon us, we have to suffer among you. Race isnt a issue, money isnt a issue. If you arent an elite now, you are among the terroist. Read you high school history books if you have to. Debunkers its in your face. IBM had the machines to kill the jews its true. There's no more denial. Dont waste your energy, please. Important days are among us. There's no more time for debate.

No I don't think gulags are uber great places, but people are making them out to be death camps, and I just don't see any evidence of that. If you're talking about gulags as in forced labor camps does it appear that there are factories/manufacturing nearby this supposed HB/KBR site? Oh yeah, I forgot, Alex doesn't have an actual location, and his only source is AlterNet, can I at least see the actual documents? How did they find out about the contract? Why don't they provide an actual source? So I go to alternet, and I end up going to marketwatch for the "source" and once story stops there. Granted, it could be accurate, but after all the hype about concentration camps complete with guillotines and rail cars turned out to be nothing, you can see why I'm somewhat skeptical. Especially when Alex still keeps material up that's been proven false. I just hope if he does run across one of these places he can get better quality photos than his Bohemian Grove series otherwise noone will take him seriously.

I am implying that things can't get much worse. Prisoners in this country are sexually assulted not only by fellow imates, but also guards as well. I won't even get into the whole sadistic beatings and killings that take place. And they constantly get away with it. The point I'm trying to make here, and I understand I'm not doing a good job of that is, how can we prevent "American Gulags" when we can't, and won't even stop abuses going on at regular jails. Nobody cares about the imprisoned in this country it's just that simple.

I've never said there was NO conspiracy against us, matter of fact I've always said I've felt it was a 50/50 chance. I'm just not seeing how a globalist will make me feel helpless, and put me in a camp, to me that's a personal choice you make. Get on the train with the sheep or fight, it's really that simple. FEMA can't find their own poop chute with a map, night vision gear, spot lights and a instructional book, hell they can't even screw up effeciently, so what's to fear here? Not to mention the fact our military can't even deal with untalented insurgents on a street corner in Iraq, much less an armed society with rednecks that can make bombs that'll dwarf IED's.

One advantage "they" do have is the fact the past several generations of American's have been raised and bred to be cowards, and pacifists that won't even defend themselves when their lives are threatened. Another thing that's an advantage for "them", if "they" do exist is US and the internet. Take a average regular Joe, who hears about this gulag contract and goes wow, this can't happen I'm going to do something about it. Then he hops on the internet and within 5 minutes starts hearing about Reptilians, Underground bases where people are eaten by aliens, shoot outs between Delta Force and greys, Lion people, moon bases, Atlantis and SERPO. Think he'll stick around? Think he'll take any of that seriously? Even if you believe in that stuff, and if you do, more power to ya, most average people will be saying "See Ya!" the second they see reptilians. I don't think that's by accident either. See that's the problem, to get most people informed and motivated to do something about it, means it needs to be based around something that a majority of them will believe is a reality, which means focusing on the acutal police state angle versus aliens, dulce ect. My fear is, this can happen right under our noses due to the fact that every time this subjects brought up Reptilians and Bush eating fetuses is brought up with it, and I'm sorry to say this folks, but that's where you're going to lose 97% of people in this country. Like I said, I do believe that clouding the facist/police state subject with Reptilians ect is intentional just so people won't take it seriously.

No I don't think the Constitution is just a piece of paper, and the fact that our government thinks it is, is flat out criminal. But it's not just the white house, it's starts at the bottom and goes all the way to the top. *If people are going to purge the upper levels, then they better do the same to mid level folks like Congress, Senate, and SCOTUS or we'll be no better off then we were before. If there is really something to this NWO issue I think it's fair to say that political parties are nothing more than a distraction to make people think they still have power here, and that both sides, from the bottom to the very top are guilty of this. Republicians, Democrats, all of em.

*I'm not advocating actually attacking the gov't, just making a point. You'll see me get just as worried as the initial poster once Bush busts out some M1A1 tanks and starts burning down buildings with kids inside.

One advantage "they" do have is the fact the past several generations of American's have been raised and bred to be cowards, and pacifists that won't even defend themselves when their lives are threatened.



excuse me ? can you elaborate on this breeding program please ? Can you show me some examples ? can you back this up ?

withoutequal;

syrinx high priest,

I agree with WithoutEqual, 100% about the average American being dumbed down. You might first forget about lizards, countdown timers and breeding programs for a moment and simply consider the fact that most good people are very unaware of what Mr. Rockefeller/Carnegie and Mr. Guggenheim did to our educational system years ago.

If it were not such a serious matter, it almost would be funny how most Americans know more about The Simpsons TV show than the US Constitution's First Amendment.

news.bbc.co.uk...

But I ain't laughing... and neither should you be.

excuse me ? can you elaborate on this breeding program please ? Can you show me some examples ? can you back this up ?

I don't mean bred as in actually geneticially selecting people. I mean since the day we're born we're tought and conditioned to be cowardly and weak, on purpose. By the media, by our parents (thanks to parenting books) and most of all schools. Just look at the WWII generation compared to this one and I'm not talking about the specific war, or this current war, but the actual grain of the people during that period. These people would stand up and fight for anything they believed in and they depended on themselves, whereas a majority of people now just sit there and take it no matter what cause their comfortable so why bother and when SHTF they rely and depend on the goverment for their survival, instead of themselves.

I mean hell I can't count on mail from Tenn getting to me within 2 weeks, so why the hell would I think if there was a flood, or similar issue that these very same poster children of inefficiency, failure, and mismanagement would be there to help me pick up the pieces? After New Orleans I can see why people are so worried that the NWO could come right in and smash us, that is of course if they haven't already taken control years ago which I also think is possible.

Also, Halliburton isn't the most efficient or ethical company in the world, so go ahead and figure they'll pocket most of that contract, and do the bare minimum during construction to pocket even more cash. So that basically means, it probably won't be the best built, nor the most secure place in the world. That shows just how dumb, cowardly and weak we are when we still allow our gov't to award contracts to a company that's been robbing us blind for years!

There's another example for ya considering both dem and repub politicians are letting the administration get away with this, and ya'll keep electing them cause you're so damn party loyal LMAO! This country is literally a conmans dream.

Technically he is correct but it is now up the the soft weak and cowardly populace to decide how much they want to fight if at all. I doubt that most people will do more than say 'oh God!'