Exploring Pluto? Do they think were STUPID????

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Originally posted by Umbrax
For example, Smallest known star discovered.

I am not implying anything about what you stated except your link to the thread with the artciel...

I have a big problem with that article, the statement "16% bigger" is misleading. The star in question is much more dense than the sun but is 1/10 its mass. Off the top of my head I know the mass of Jupiter is about 1/1000 that of the sun. 16%? They are stating surface area or circumference. This would make sense, because they stated "16% bigger" but the title uses the adjective "Smaller". Smaller is not the antonym of bigger, lighter is the anonym (correct spelling on antonym?). This leads me to believe that the article was also written to mislead or had an intent other than "the whole-truth".

Originally posted by blobby
lol NASA aint military rofl of course it is military didnt you know it was JPL or something before NASA and that was pure military all that changed was name, its still tied to military for sure.

It was Einsenhower who launched NASA as a 'civlian space agency' not a DoD departement. It was NACA prior to the move by Ike.

Frosty, I was merely supporting what cmdrkeenkid had said regarding Jupiter not having the mass needed to become a star.

If you believe there to be discrepancies in the Space.com article I think it would be great if you revived that thread. Maybe some new members would like to iron out the article. Honestly I feel like we would be hijacking this thread by getting into it further.

Here's the bad news. Yes, the government is lying to you. No, we're not going to go to Pluto to explore it. Seriously, why on Earth would a space exploration agency want to explore an object that is, they suspect (but, of course, don't want to confirm), typical of objects located in the KB. After all, our alien masterminds won't let us leave the inner solar system yet, so why would we bother exploring the outer solar system? More on that in a moment.

Now, as we all know, especially Keen (who has extensive education in Astronomy, so we know he's one of them. After all, he teaches Astronomy, what could he possibly know?), Jupiter became a brown dwarf star upon the nuclear reaction we caused on the planet. That is why, using a telescope, you can no longer see the 4 moons around Jupiter (you do see 4 objects that appear like stars and move around, but those are only alien craft to trick us. More on that in a moment.) This was done to sustain the Karachi population on Neptune, as they were running out of dog feces, their current energy source.

What some of you may not know is there is also a brown dwarf that has been in orbit around our sun for at least 12 billion years. This information NASA has managed to keep fairly secret, but some wise (so therefore banned) members have uncovered the information and presented it here on ATS. They're old threads, you'll have to search from the beginning. What is only coming out now is the true nature of that "star".

Now it's been a moment.

That "star" is actually the Mayan mother ship coming to return to the planet they captured so many millennia ago. It is set to return in 2012. The expeditionary Mayan party knew this, so they only went to 2012 on their calendars, knowing they were going to go to the Andromedian calendar when the rest of the population got here. Unfortunately for them, they were scattered in an unexpected attack by Spain about 4 or 5 hundred years ago. Now those Mayans have infiltrated all governments and positions of power. Those in the know refer to them as reptilians, reptiods or draconians. This is to prevent them from learning that we know their true nature, but some people have heard about these "reptilian" aliens and assumed they were...Well, reptilian. Of course, they are not. Reptiles are dumb, these guys ain't.

The reason the probe is going out is two fold. First, it will be getting to Pluto in 2015. bigpappadiaz was right, though, in saying no one will care. See, the Mayan spacecraft is carrying Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha and John Titor to distract the masses when it lands and starts shooting its anti-economic ray down on Wall Street (causing mass selling). Primary reason for the launch #1: The Mayans won't suspect it's anything more than an exploration vessel, or that it will be too late.

In 2015, though, New Horizons will begin transmitting a message to earth. While not audible to human beings, this signal should cause every Mayan head to explode within about 30 seconds. Already there are plans for rebuilding Earth after that as a liberal utopia (most republican's heads will explode in 2015) after the Mayans are destroyed.

So good call on being paranoid, Big Pappa, but not to worry. This is secret to liberate mankind three years after our alien overlords arrive in force and turn us all into cattle. During those three long years, don't lose hope! There is a plan!

Now for the plea:

Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please don't take that seriously!

Oh man, now I get it! If I want to avoid having my post deleted because it's about something really real, like the coming depression, I need to disguise it as something sort of ridiculous. Plus maybe sort of on track of the subject, so here goes: They think we're stupid, no one sent a probe to Pluto.

[edit on 20-1-2006 by bigpappadiaz]

Originally posted by bigpappadiaz
Oh man, now I get it! If I want to avoid having my post deleted because it's about something really real, like the coming depression, I need to disguise it as something sort of ridiculous. Plus maybe sort of on track of the subject, so here goes: They think we're stupid, no one sent a probe to Pluto.

[edit on 20-1-2006 by bigpappadiaz]

Now verify your stance by providing us with something tangible. First, whatever information you give us please site your sources and second, why haven't you done this so far?

This is the space exploration forum, not predictions nor economic. You proposed this mission was bunk because of the economic downfalls of the world by the time it gets there, and therefore it cannot be that they sent it to Pluto.

Unfortunately, NASA's seers were all retired with the CIA's '___' program, so NASA isn't privy to the information you apparently are. If they stopped to ask what the economic condition of the world will be when the probe reached Pluto before deciding, 17 years ago, to proceed with the program, they probably looked at the usual indicators instead of their crystal ball. If they stopped before launching and, for some bizarre reason, considered the same problem, will the public be economically stable and generally happy when our probe reaches Pluto (because, you know, this is the primary concern for every NASA mission), they again would have looked at the current economic signs and figured, "yep, they'll have the money...But money can't buy happiness, so we'll just have to hope on that one."

If I could see the post that got you the warn, I may have been able to give you more insight into why it was deleted and you warned, but I'm sure the moderator who warned you already did via U2U.

ok, I think the case it pretty much closed on this thread...Yes the probe is going to pluto...and will be used for 100% science.

BTW, Conspiracy Nut, Since you obviously want to talk about you odd believes so much...Why dont you create a thread about it, that way theres no thread hi-jacking.

Originally posted by spliff4020

If we are so interested in exploring the best way we can, why would'nt that money be spent on a trip to mars. Where we actually step foot on the martian soil and EXPLORE.

Yup all well and good, till you ask yourself... How they gonna get home? How are they going to lift off of the planet? The last time I looked theres no space port on Mars. Little different then the moon.

Personally, I think space exploration is waste of time and money. Look for the asteroids, sure. But beyond that, its boring and pointless. Theres nothing out there. At least, not as far as we can go. I just dont understand the point of spending that kind of money on these projects.

For all of those who think space exploration is a waste of time, please look in to the sky, and remember how many satilites revolve this earth just so you can surf the internet, watch Live sports from around the world, get your international news coverage, and yes, your porn.
Thanks to space exploration, and the information gathered from missions of decades gone by, they have ultimetly increased technology for you and me.
Also, a mission to Pluto is alwways going to happen at some point, and it has to be now as Pluto is at it's closest and easiest point to allow this mission to prove successful.
1% of U.S Governments spending goes on to NASA.
Remember, those who think this mission is a waste of time, read nd learn about how previous missions have led to advancment in satilite technology used today to beam t.v coverage around the world.
The Universe is an amazing thing. We should never stop learning about it.

Just think of Outerspace as a massive ocean. OUr tech does not allow us to exloit that ocean easily just yet but soon enough it will. Once we have things like the space elevator etc.. space will become just another sea port.

There is amazing energy resources out in the heavens. Even if we never find other life out there what we will find will allow humainty to grow and move off this planet and eventually save humanity. We are those natives that took the canoo across the oceans thousands of years ago. Pluto is nothing less than the "new world".

We go because we must.

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Alrighty then, the economic crash thread. Sure, they sent the probe to Pluto, I'm convinced. 100% science. The Depression's A-Coming