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MI5 To Spy On Elected Representatives (moved from ATSNN)
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It appears that Tony Blair is about to grant powers to MI5 that will enable them to bug MP's telephone conversations, a move which will reverse a
forty year old convention barring such actions. The Prime Minister has attempted to pre-empt any outcry by stating that MP's should be subject to
the same rules that apply to ordinary citizens and that safeguards will be put in place to ensure against any abuse of such powers. Cabinet members
are said to be furious as a result, with a call being made for the matter to be investigated by the Commons' Committee on Standards and
Privileges.
news.independent.co.uk
Tony Blair is preparing to scrap a 40-year ban on tapping MPs' telephones, despite fierce Cabinet opposition, The Independent on Sunday can reveal.
The decision provoked a furious row in the Cabinet just before Christmas, when the Secretary of State for Defence, John Reid, voiced his opposition.
Professor Peter Hennessy, the Whitehall and constitutional expert, also called on MPs to question Mr Blair's intentions. "It seems pretty odd to me that they should be doing this," he said.
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Of course, if you are doing no wrong then you have nothing to worry about, but it does seem strange that the security services would want to spy upon the very people that we elect to run the country.
Bugging of individuals that have been flagged up as terrorist suspects is one thing, but enabling the bugging of the people who make the decisions that effect us all is something entirely different. It does make one wonder just what they will be listening out for.
A conspiracy theorist may get the idea that certain behind the scenes figures want to monitor any dissent regarding Government policy or such like, but then that cannot happen in a modern Western democracy, can it?
[edit on 15-1-2006 by KhieuSamphan]
[edit on 15-1-2006 by KhieuSamphan]
[edit on 1-15-2006 by Valhall]
news.independent.co.uk
Tony Blair is preparing to scrap a 40-year ban on tapping MPs' telephones, despite fierce Cabinet opposition, The Independent on Sunday can reveal.
The decision provoked a furious row in the Cabinet just before Christmas, when the Secretary of State for Defence, John Reid, voiced his opposition.
Professor Peter Hennessy, the Whitehall and constitutional expert, also called on MPs to question Mr Blair's intentions. "It seems pretty odd to me that they should be doing this," he said.
Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
Of course, if you are doing no wrong then you have nothing to worry about, but it does seem strange that the security services would want to spy upon the very people that we elect to run the country.
Bugging of individuals that have been flagged up as terrorist suspects is one thing, but enabling the bugging of the people who make the decisions that effect us all is something entirely different. It does make one wonder just what they will be listening out for.
A conspiracy theorist may get the idea that certain behind the scenes figures want to monitor any dissent regarding Government policy or such like, but then that cannot happen in a modern Western democracy, can it?
[edit on 15-1-2006 by KhieuSamphan]
[edit on 15-1-2006 by KhieuSamphan]
[edit on 1-15-2006 by Valhall]
Voted Yes on this.
I expect the "security" services, as a rule, run surveillance on MP's anyway.
Any intelligence organisation will always have it's cliques and departmental allegiances rather than it's stated goal of protecting the nation.
MP's are those who have some power to make the rules that the rest of us will follow, so any past indiscretions or skeletons in closets would be ammunition in getting them to play ball, rather than face scandal and ridicule by the voting public.
Truth is, we are ALL under surveillance as any one of us could potentially be a threat to the old-boy network of senior civil servants and "connected" elite that really hold the power.
It's only fair though that MP's should be subject to the same scryutiny that they themselves are voting into law for the rest of us. It all comes down to "who watches the watchers"?
I expect the "security" services, as a rule, run surveillance on MP's anyway.
Any intelligence organisation will always have it's cliques and departmental allegiances rather than it's stated goal of protecting the nation.
MP's are those who have some power to make the rules that the rest of us will follow, so any past indiscretions or skeletons in closets would be ammunition in getting them to play ball, rather than face scandal and ridicule by the voting public.
Truth is, we are ALL under surveillance as any one of us could potentially be a threat to the old-boy network of senior civil servants and "connected" elite that really hold the power.
It's only fair though that MP's should be subject to the same scryutiny that they themselves are voting into law for the rest of us. It all comes down to "who watches the watchers"?
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