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Originally posted by Winchester Ranger T
Any system that incorporates the SA80 is appropriately called the FIST, since that's what the soldier would end up having to use for self defence.
Originally posted by Lonestar24
What Winchester is referring to are the known defects of the L85 and L85A1 rifles. These indeed could lead to catastrophic failures in combat. But after the HK makeover to A2 standard the rifle by all accounts seems to be a fine (though still butt-ugly IMO) system, both by the operators and gun folks. In official army tests the L85A2 allegedly even beat M16 and G36s in terms of reliability (though apparently none of the tested rifles survived all of the tests). But however good the A2 now is, it may never lose its bad reputation.
I know the IdZ version 1 is already in service, does anyone know about status of the FIST and Land Warrior programs?
Originally posted by devilwasp
Well assault rifles are not supposed to be dropped....
If I dropped any rifle the sights will screw up and chances are there will be dammage..
If I stamp on the barrel of any rifle most likely it will dent and make it useless..
Originally posted by the_renegade
I wouldn't think that so much these days. Rifles are built to take a beating, dropping it probably won't do much to it, might through the sights of a touch.
[edit on 31-12-2005 by the_renegade]
Originally posted by stumasonYeah, agreed.
Winchester is well known for taking every opportunity to piss all over anything the UK does, just check out PTS and his threads whinging about something in the UK. What makes it worse, is that he claims to be a UK ex-pat living in the US.
Originally posted by the_renegadeI wouldn't think that so much these days. Rifles are built to take a beating, dropping it probably won't do much to it, might through the sights of a touch.
[edit on 31-12-2005 by the_renegade]
Originally posted by Winchester Ranger T
Originally posted by the_renegadeI wouldn't think that so much these days. Rifles are built to take a beating, dropping it probably won't do much to it, might through the sights of a touch.
[edit on 31-12-2005 by the_renegade]
The thickness and quality of the metal used in the SA80 is such that simply squeezing on the sides of the receiver will cause the weapon to malfunction.
Report link from Feb 2003 on the SA80A2 - it really is an expensive paperweight.
www.freerepublic.com...
[edit on 1-1-2006 by Winchester Ranger T]